Looks like this one will end at around 15th level.
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Why is this finishing at low level? I thought the target was 17th now
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We're only now assigning these, folks... no need to panic about level ranges or cover art yet!
My goal is to keep having these run from about 1st to 16th–17th level for the time being. This one will likely start at 14th or 15th level, but we're still in the process of getting the last few off the ground and writing started on them.
Each adventure looks really interesting but the blurb doesn't really suggest how they will all tie together into an Adventure Path. It will be interesting to see how that's done.
Yes. Yes, it will. ;-)
Each adventure looks really interesting but the blurb doesn't really suggest how they will all tie together into an Adventure Path. It will be interesting to see how that's done.
The PCs are on the trail of the cult "Whispering Way". That will lead them to Gallowspire. It´s as easy as pie... but not for the PCs, I fear. ;)
Awesome. I'm definitely looking forward to this AP.
LOL! Okay, this is a cute little AP.
1) Haunted house/spirits
2) Golem/Frankenstein
3) Werewolves
4) HP Lovecraft
5) Vampires
6) Liches/necromancers
Heh. Worthy of a chuckle (in a good way).
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Dear lord yes! I've always had a special place in my black heart for powerful evil spellcasters. While it is incredibly unlikely that we will face off against the Whispering Tyrant himself (instant party kill anyone?), is there any possibility that you will take this opportunity to provide stats for him?
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Paizo did it again! I just flipped throuh the SerpentSkull pdf and thought, wohoo, this will be hard to top. A day later CARRION CROWN is announced, and I already can't wait to DM it - if only SerpentsSkull would be finished already...
Anyway, I wonder, if the last part will allow me to include some stuff from Jabel Shammar (Ptolus) into Gallowspire...
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Each adventure looks really interesting but the blurb doesn't really suggest how they will all tie together into an Adventure Path. It will be interesting to see how that's done.
That's because of two reasons, primarily:
1) We're still ironing things out for this AP, and
2) We try to keep the spoilers in public places to a minimum.
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Dear lord yes! I've always had a special place in my black heart for powerful evil spellcasters. While it is incredibly unlikely that we will face off against the Whispering Tyrant himself (instant party kill anyone?), is there any possibility that you will take this opportunity to provide stats for him?
No chance at all.
The Whispering Tyrant is one of the MAJOR villains in our game. His stats are essentially "epic" stats, and until we figure out how our epic rules work, he (and the Oliphant of Jandelay, and our demon lords, and our archdevils, and all the similar creatures) won't get stats at all.
We're only now assigning these, folks... no need to panic about level ranges or cover art yet!
My goal is to keep having these run from about 1st to 16th–17th level for the time being. This one will likely start at 14th or 15th level, but we're still in the process of getting the last few off the ground and writing started on them.
I was quite happy when I saw that this wouldn't go past 15th level. Just sayin'. Avoiding that 4th iterative attack and 9th level spells makes me a happy GM. You can still do "epic stuff" at lower levels!
Dear lord yes! I've always had a special place in my black heart for powerful evil spellcasters. While it is incredibly unlikely that we will face off against the Whispering Tyrant himself (instant party kill anyone?), is there any possibility that you will take this opportunity to provide stats for him?No chance at all.
The Whispering Tyrant is one of the MAJOR villains in our game. His stats are essentially "epic" stats, and until we figure out how our epic rules work, he (and the Oliphant of Jandelay, and our demon lords, and our archdevils, and all the similar creatures) won't get stats at all.
You gave us Xotani though. C'mon.
Shouldn't that be 'Chapter 6:', not 'Chapter 5:' ?
Not if you're Bulmahn. And drunk. ;-)
Actually...
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You gave us Xotani though. C'mon.
Xotani is only CR 20 or 21 or thereabouts. And is on the weaker end of the Rovagug Spawn scale. And on top of that, the Rovagug spawn are designed and intended to be end-game threats for a core game—they're not intended to be legitimate epic level threats as such.
The Whispering Tyrant was a signifcant threat to a GOD. He needs to be at the high end of the scale as a result. He should also serve as a good bad guy to face against an epic level party as an end-of-the-campaign style, just as Treerazer or the Tarrasque can serve those rules for a core game. And since we don't know how high our Epic level rules will go yet (apart from the fact that there WILL be a level cap), we can't stat the Whispering Tyrant up. We can't even say what level he is.
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That is indeed my current favorite. Especially since that lets us cap the monster CR at 40, which is a nice round number as well.And since we don't know how high our Epic level rules will go yetI'd like to vote that you go old-school and cap out at Level 36.
Or 42, cause you know at that point you should know the answers to the universe. :D
Dear lord yes! I've always had a special place in my black heart for powerful evil spellcasters. While it is incredibly unlikely that we will face off against the Whispering Tyrant himself (instant party kill anyone?), is there any possibility that you will take this opportunity to provide stats for him?No chance at all.
The Whispering Tyrant is one of the MAJOR villains in our game. His stats are essentially "epic" stats, and until we figure out how our epic rules work, he (and the Oliphant of Jandelay, and our demon lords, and our archdevils, and all the similar creatures) won't get stats at all.
I´m going to suscribe for this AP, but I´m a little dissapointed, I was under the assumption that the players would face Tar-Baphon at the end of the adventure or we at least would have his stats to continue the campaign like in other AP.
Now that I know that there is no chance at all for this to happen, is there any reason to buy a Tar-Baphon miniature?
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Dear lord yes! I've always had a special place in my black heart for powerful evil spellcasters. While it is incredibly unlikely that we will face off against the Whispering Tyrant himself (instant party kill anyone?), is there any possibility that you will take this opportunity to provide stats for him?No chance at all.
The Whispering Tyrant is one of the MAJOR villains in our game. His stats are essentially "epic" stats, and until we figure out how our epic rules work, he (and the Oliphant of Jandelay, and our demon lords, and our archdevils, and all the similar creatures) won't get stats at all.
I´m going to suscribe for this AP, but I´m a little dissapointed, I was under the assumption that the players would face Tar-Baphon at the end of the adventure or we at least would have his stats to continue the campaign like in other AP.
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Now that I know that there is no chance at all for this to happen, is there any reason to buy a Tar-Baphon miniature?
There's technically ALREADY a Tar-Baphon mini, actually. He was one of the first villains to appear in our Compleate Encounters line.
As for CRs, though... the Whispering Tyrant is at the far end of the scale; he'll be like CR 40 (assuming a level 36 cap). There's QUITE a bit of difference between something that powerful and the two creatures you mention in your spoiler.
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why not just make no cap......and only end your aps at lvl 36
Because if we make a game that has no cap and then only provide support for things up to level 36, folks would rightfully be disappointed and annoyed at us for not supporting levels higher than 36.
And just because we'll cap epic level doesn't mean we can't then do SUPER EPIC later on and raise the cap to, say 60. If there's enough demand for that level of power.
In other words, I'm relatively sure there's enough demand to make a level extension to something like 36 and justify our time in creating and supporting those rules; I'm not so sure there's enough demand to support much beyond that point.
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And just because we'll cap epic level doesn't mean we can't then do SUPER EPIC later on and raise the cap to, say 60. If there's enough demand for that level of power.
In other words, I'm relatively sure there's enough demand to make a level extension to something like 36 and justify our time in creating and supporting those rules; I'm not so sure there's enough demand to support much beyond that point.
You could just write a section on how to expand on the epic rules to break the level cap in an epic sourcebook.
Hey James just a quick question. Any chance on getting an article completely about Tar-Baphon?
Edit: Even an an article minus his major stats?
+1 Maybe once the God articles are done, we can have some on Golarion's major NPCs?
When I first read about Tar-Baphon, he reminded me of Larloch in the Forgotten Realms, and since his scratched that same itch for me, I'd be disappointed if he were the "boss" of a 1-15 or even a 1-20 AP.
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When I first read about Tar-Baphon, he reminded me of Larloch in the Forgotten Realms, and since his scratched that same itch for me, I'd be disappointed if he were the "boss" of a 1-15 or even a 1-20 AP.
Tar-Baphon is one of the greatest menaces on Golarion. He's well above CR 20, and not appropriate to include in an AP as an end boss at all.
Unless you do something tricky.
When I first read about Tar-Baphon, he reminded me of Larloch in the Forgotten Realms, and since his scratched that same itch for me, I'd be disappointed if he were the "boss" of a 1-15 or even a 1-20 AP.Tar-Baphon is one of the greatest menaces on Golarion. He's well above CR 20, and not appropriate to include in an AP as an end boss at all.
Unless you do something tricky.
Yep,he seems to get more press than any of Rovagugs kiddies or
Coct spoiler below
On this epic level baddie scale how would you rank the following in Golarion in order of power
Tar-Baphon
Baba Yaga
Most powerful Runelord
Treerazer
(have I missed anyone of the class of CR 20++?)
Unless you do something tricky.
LOL! You tease, you... :-D
On this epic level baddie scale how would you rank the following in Golarion in order of power...
Tar-Baphon
Baba Yaga
Most powerful Runelord
Treerazer
I think Tar-Baphon is probably still at the top of the list...though Baba Yaga might be pushing him, given that her threat spans entire worlds. The other guys (i.e., Runelords, Treerazer, etc.) would probably concern him. After all, they'd still pose a threat. But I still think Tar-Baphon could take them. I mean, he was going after Aroden back in the day...and that's the premiere guy/god in Golarion's history. So, yeah. Tar-Baphon all the way.
James Jacobs once said in a post that he saw Tar Baphon as a 35th level wizard, I think I remember.
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James Jacobs once said in a post that he saw Tar Baphon as a 35th level wizard, I think I remember.
Sounds like the type of thing I would have said back in the 3.5 days. It could still apply, but the current official levels of anything above CR 25 are in flux; they can be whatever you need them to be for your own game, but until we get to detailing our epic rules, we won't be saying anything official about them.
Is this the last Adventure Path ? If this has been asked before I apologize for the annoyance.
Is this the last Adventure Path ? If this has been asked before I apologize for the annoyance.
Nope. The one after this will be called the Jade Regent (or something similar).
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No doubt the forces of evil have an icy reception in mind for the PCs once they get to Gallowspire. Nevertheless, I think you mean to say that #48 will be the climactic conclusion...
Sigh. Thankfully, this is non-final text, which I will try to remember to fix tomorrow...
Thanks for the catch!
Anyone else see the resemblance of this "sacrifice an innocent to provide a body for Tar-Baphon to possess" idea to the Voldemort-Cedric Diggory incident in Harry Potter?? haha either way, its awesome!