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After having a couple of days now to peruse the pdf, I have to say, as a 20 year + DM, experienced with all the previous editions of the game, this has got to be one of the best, if not THE best DM/GM Guides I've ever had the pleasure of reading.
I'm completely with you. I started playing in 1978 or so and this has to be the greatest GM work I've bought. Strangely, I still love the quirks and tables in Ed.1 DMG by Gary Gygax, but that text was a little idiosyncratic and ad hoc. I don't possess a library of Rulebooks to rival Lisa's but its not inconsiderable either. I just hope Paizo brings out more GM oriented guides like this.
Well done everyone at Paizo - or as we sometimes say in Blighty "Jolly good show all round chaps (and chapesses)".

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AnthonyRoberson wrote:The only dissapointment that I have had so far with the book (unless I have missed it somehow) is there is nothing that addresses the biggest problem I had with 3.5 - handling high level characters. I would have liked to see any of the following topics addressed:
- balancing/running high level encounters
- tips for running smooth encounters/combats with high level NPCs
- challenging high level PCs, with a focus on how to deal with particular high level spells and magic itemsI've been pushing for us to publish a "Guide to High Level Play" for a while now. And I do wish we'd had a larger portion of that in the GameMastery Guide, but we decided it'd be better to skew this book toward more broad game support. After all... the VAST majority of those who play RPGs don't play super high level, and this is only our third book.
I'll keep pushing for some sort of "Guide to High Level Play" though. Whether or not that manifests as a big giant hardcover rulebook or something smaller... can't really say yet.
I think that high level play is such a different axiom for players and GMs that it deserves its own text. Personally I would prefer publications built from the bottom up because I rarely run games where players really want to push beyond 20th level.
I have played high level games but they are so much different in flavor and feel that I've had groups that have just said "Let's start out a new game at 1st level".
Don't get me wrong I'm not knocking high level play. I possess the 3.5 Ed. Epic Level Handbook and it is rather useful, but I know that being a player the challenges are fresher in role playing terms when you're early to mid-level in advancement. Just my take.

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Sharoth wrote:Wasn't the Anti-Paladin suppost to be in the Gamemastery Guide?No, but there is a picture of Seelah as an Anti-Paladin in the section on evil characters.
Yes. Very bad taste that ;) I was hoping it wasn't Seelah. I hope she was just doing the pose as a fundraiser for the destitute children's home. LOL.

Throrgir Mardyn |

The old lessons and suggestions on the art of Game Mastering can not be covered often enough. While many hints and tips found in this tome have been found elsewhere, from printings of various rulebooks before, I find that these are all essential pieces that one needs to be reminded of. Then of course there are new suggestions and details included that really round out this text and make it that much more important.
This is a priceless book that should be on the shelves of every Game Master's library. Thank you again, Paizo, for the great service you provide to the gaming hobby!

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The old lessons and suggestions on the art of Game Mastering can not be covered often enough. While many hints and tips found in this tome have been found elsewhere, from printings of various rulebooks before, I find that these are all essential pieces that one needs to be reminded of. Then of course there are new suggestions and details included that really round out this text and make it that much more important.
This is a priceless book that should be on the shelves of every Game Master's library. Thank you again, Paizo, for the great service you provide to the gaming hobby!
I hear ya!

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Aye. It's pretty clear to me that what's in the product description is what's in the book. No more, no less. It seems to me that some of the reviewers haven't actually read the blurb on the product page.
Aw, come on now! you can't expect people to go around reading advertisements now, Can you? That's just crazy talk!
Edit: And I hope my attempt at being funny doesn't offend anyone.

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Ravenmantle wrote:Aye. It's pretty clear to me that what's in the product description is what's in the book. No more, no less. It seems to me that some of the reviewers haven't actually read the blurb on the product page.Aw, come on now! you can't expect people to go around reading advertisements now, Can you? That's just crazy talk!
Edit: And I hope my attempt at being funny doesn't offend anyone.
Ouch! I'm soo offended! ;)

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Aberzombie wrote:Ouch! I'm soo offended! ;)Ravenmantle wrote:Aye. It's pretty clear to me that what's in the product description is what's in the book. No more, no less. It seems to me that some of the reviewers haven't actually read the blurb on the product page.Aw, come on now! you can't expect people to go around reading advertisements now, Can you? That's just crazy talk!
Edit: And I hope my attempt at being funny doesn't offend anyone.
I'm very sorry if my mention of "crazy talk" hit so close to home.

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Marcus Aurelius wrote:I'm very sorry if my mention of "crazy talk" hit so close to home.Aberzombie wrote:Ouch! I'm soo offended! ;)Ravenmantle wrote:Aye. It's pretty clear to me that what's in the product description is what's in the book. No more, no less. It seems to me that some of the reviewers haven't actually read the blurb on the product page.Aw, come on now! you can't expect people to go around reading advertisements now, Can you? That's just crazy talk!
Edit: And I hope my attempt at being funny doesn't offend anyone.
Wibble wubble...

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Aberzombie wrote:Wibble wubble...Marcus Aurelius wrote:I'm very sorry if my mention of "crazy talk" hit so close to home.Aberzombie wrote:Ouch! I'm soo offended! ;)Ravenmantle wrote:Aye. It's pretty clear to me that what's in the product description is what's in the book. No more, no less. It seems to me that some of the reviewers haven't actually read the blurb on the product page.Aw, come on now! you can't expect people to go around reading advertisements now, Can you? That's just crazy talk!
Edit: And I hope my attempt at being funny doesn't offend anyone.
No way dude! It's "Doodle doodle dee! Wubba, wubba, wubba". At least, that's the way Downtown Julie Brown used to say it.

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Marcus Aurelius wrote:No way dude! It's "Doodle doodle dee! Wubba, wubba, wubba. At least, that's the way Downtown Julie Brown used to say it.Aberzombie wrote:Wibble wubble...Marcus Aurelius wrote:I'm very sorry if my mention of "crazy talk" hit so close to home.Aberzombie wrote:Ouch! I'm soo offended! ;)Ravenmantle wrote:Aye. It's pretty clear to me that what's in the product description is what's in the book. No more, no less. It seems to me that some of the reviewers haven't actually read the blurb on the product page.Aw, come on now! you can't expect people to go around reading advertisements now, Can you? That's just crazy talk!
Edit: And I hope my attempt at being funny doesn't offend anyone.
LMAO! I guess I sit corrected!

KnightErrantJR |

Alright, that's it! No Paizonian has sent me a copy, so you've forced my hand -- I shall strike all Paizo staffers with the Epic Curse known only as 'The Transmogrification into SKR'! May all your hair fall off and henceforth baldness prevail!
I just have to point out that that was the 666 post in this thread, Asgetrion. You have impeccable timing . . . ;)

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I can't read this fast enough! I want to use all these ideas. The NPCs alone are worth the price of the book! THANK YOU for that!!!!
There are another 28 NPC stat blocks weeping on the cutting room floor, looking longingly over at the art department space that took their place with the fabulous illo's for each spread. Who knows, they may someday see the light of day in another product.
And yes to the previous poster - it is rather amusing that the typical militiaman is not by a long stretch the toughest cat on the block. Remember: True authority derives from the consent of the governed, not the exercise of force!

Zaister |
Joe Wells wrote:wouldn't that be abyssal timing?KnightErrantJR wrote:I just have to point out that that was the 666 post in this thread, Asgetrion. You have impeccable timing . . . ;)Or Infernal timing?
Or abysmal?

Robert Miller 55 |

Has anyone out there looked at the Toolbox book from AEG?
I'm always looking for sourcebooks when I'm at places like, say, Origins, and ran across this one.
Since my GMG showed up when I was at Origins, I have not had time to compare them, but it seems like there's some synergy there.
Yes, but I prefer Ultimate Toolbox, its like 10 times more content and its "generic" in application rather than aimed at 3E like Toolbox is. Same company, and I believe the same people. I am pretty sure at least Jim Pinto was involved in both books.

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Joe Wells wrote:wouldn't that be abyssal timing?KnightErrantJR wrote:I just have to point out that that was the 666 post in this thread, Asgetrion. You have impeccable timing . . . ;)Or Infernal timing?
Absolutely not! By all the devil-haunted hells, my timing has NOTHING to do with any of those vile demons or their playing ground!
Your words offend me... I feel tempted to curse you with baldness as well! ;P

Charlie Brooks RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 4, RPG Superstar 2015 Top 32 |

Lest it be forgotten somewhere down the road, I'd like to emphasize the brilliance of providing such a good price on the PDF version of this book. I flipped through the book in my game store and decided to pass on it, but chose to purchase the PDF in order to print out the NPC stats and useful tables. Now that I have a chance to sit down and read it through instead of just skimming it, I'm much more interested in paying for the hardcover.
This is the second time I've been baited by an inexpensive PDF and then decided that I wanted to buy the hardcover book, with the first time being the Core Rulebook itself.

Ross Byers RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32 |

Does anyone know if the forms (The Campaign Sheet and the Settlment Sheet) in the Game Mastery Guide will be made available for download. Those would be handy for those of us who did not buy the PDF.
-Weylin
These are now available as a free download. The link is at the bottom of the product description.

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any hint on when this wonder might arrive in the UK?
Copies destined for Europe generally go to our European distributors' shipping consolidators on the East Coast, and we have no insight into or control over what happens once they're there. All I can tell you is that we shipped them a while ago, so... any day now?

Weylin Stormcrowe 798 |

Weylin Stormcrowe 798 wrote:These are now available as a free download. The link is at the bottom of the product description.Does anyone know if the forms (The Campaign Sheet and the Settlment Sheet) in the Game Mastery Guide will be made available for download. Those would be handy for those of us who did not buy the PDF.
-Weylin
Thanks, Ross. My game master will love having these.

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caribet wrote:any hint on when this wonder might arrive in the UK?Copies destined for Europe generally go to our European distributors' shipping consolidators on the East Coast, and we have no insight into or control over what happens once they're there. All I can tell you is that we shipped them a while ago, so... any day now?
For what it's worth, I received my copy today, courtesy of the Danish postal service.

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I saw the book and I love it. So very magnificent, especially the parts about hauntings and NPC stats!
But I do have one question about the list of recommended films in back:
What exactly makes The Legend of Boggy Creek a D&D/Pathfinder-ish movie? Mind you, I own a copy and I like it, it makes just about any SyFy Original movie look like tripe in comparison... but for the life of me I can't see what makes this low-key cryptid film 'right' for the game.
Just curious about this.

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Ross Byers wrote:Yes. Very bad taste that ;) I was hoping it wasn't Seelah. I hope she was just doing the pose as a fundraiser for the destitute children's home. LOL.Sharoth wrote:Wasn't the Anti-Paladin suppost to be in the Gamemastery Guide?No, but there is a picture of Seelah as an Anti-Paladin in the section on evil characters.
It was her evil twin from a Mirror of Opposition, or whatever they're called these days.

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What exactly makes The Legend of Boggy Creek a D&D/Pathfinder-ish movie? Mind you, I own a copy and I like it, it makes just about any SyFy Original movie look like tripe in comparison... but for the life of me I can't see what makes this low-key cryptid film 'right' for the game.
Just curious about this.
So, the list of movies that inspired Pathfinder are just that—movies that actually inspired US at Paizo to do things the way we do in Pathfinder and in Golarion. The Legend of Boggy Creek is one such movie for me—not the sequel that ended up on MST3K, but the original movie from the 70s that was a sort of mockumentary about the Boggy Creak monster (which is a swamp version of Bigfoot said to live in Arkansas).
This movie terrified me as a kid, partially because it felt real to me (due to the fact it was set up like a documentary—a genre of movie I still love to this day), and partially because I grew up in Northern California where Bigfoot lives. Basically, it ties in to cryptozoology, and the idea that in the modern day, there might be monsters living among us be they hairy giants, mothmen, sea serpents, lake monsters, or whatever. Cryptozoology is a HUGE influence on Pathfinder—we've statted up versions of bigfoot type creatures, lake monsters, chupacabras, mothman, the Jersy (Sandpoint) devil, and on and on and on. In a big way, my interest in this subject was formulated by The Legend of Boggy Creek and movies like it from the 70's (I would have put In Search Of... in that appendix as well if it wasn't limited just to movies). Had I never seen The Legend of Boggy Creek, there's a pretty good chance that the presence of cryptozoological elements like what I mention above would NOT have appeared in our bestiaries.
And for further proof, check out the map of Sandpoint. There, to the south, where Schooner Gulch Road (itself a road from just down the road from where I grew up) crosses the swamp, you'll see a river.
Yup: Boggy Creek has actually been in Golarion since Pathfinder #1.

Eric Hinkle |

So, the list of movies that inspired Pathfinder are just that—movies that actually inspired US at Paizo to do things the way we do in Pathfinder and in Golarion. The Legend of Boggy Creek is one such movie for me—not the sequel that ended up on MST3K, but the original movie from the 70s that was a sort of mockumentary about the Boggy Creak monster (which is a swamp version of Bigfoot said to live in Arkansas).
This movie terrified me as a kid, partially because it felt real to me (due to the fact it was set up like a documentary—a genre of movie I still love to this day), and partially because I grew up in Northern California where Bigfoot lives. Basically, it ties in to cryptozoology, and the idea that in the modern day, there might be monsters living among us be they hairy giants, mothmen, sea serpents, lake monsters, or whatever. Cryptozoology is a HUGE influence on Pathfinder—we've statted up versions of bigfoot type creatures, lake monsters, chupacabras, mothman, the Jersy (Sandpoint) devil, and on and on and on. In a big way, my interest in this subject was formulated by The Legend of Boggy Creek and movies like it from the 70's (I would have put In Search Of... in that appendix as well if it wasn't limited just to movies). Had I never seen The Legend of Boggy Creek, there's a pretty good chance that the presence of cryptozoological elements like what I mention above would NOT have appeared in our bestiaries.
And for further proof, check out the map of Sandpoint. There, to the south, where Schooner Gulch Road (itself a road from just down the road from where I grew up) crosses the swamp, you'll see a river.
Yup: Boggy Creek...
Okay, thanks for the explanation. And I do have to agree on the scariness of it; for once someone had a small budget and actually used it wisely in that film.
BTW, talking about crypto-critter films from the 70's, did you ever see one titled The Mysterious Monsters? I saw it as a kid, and it scared me blind, especially the bit about the ghostly decapitated head rolling though the halls of Urquhart Castle on the shores of Loch Ness.