Can Alessandro pick Michele up and carry him to Dunstan? Str 4 & Potence 1.
Happy Birthday! Many happy returns!
Thank you!
Happy Birthday!
Thanks! Alas, no Toreador will want me at this state so I guess I'll decay naturally :)
The BBEG has resisted your Dread Gaze!
RUDE! Who told him he could do that?
Someone else will tear him a new one then :)
Lorenzo and Alessandro now have a clear crack at him though as his actions THIS time around are all spent trying to bring down the shifty Onfroi! Dunstan's soak has proved up to the task, let's see if it holds up...
Go get him guys!
Can Alessandro pick Michele up and carry him to Dunstan? Str 4 & Potence 1.
Michele is on the ground, probably a better use of your action to attack Dunstan directly. If Michele wants to head there, he will.
The rules/action economy probably doesn't allow it... But, was thinking...
Alessandro carries Michele to Dunstan offering Michele to take blood, heal... then deliver him to within striking distance.
Acting Justicar delivering... justice. Quite literally.
Great story-wise, Michele has the most vested interest. It's kinda his fight.
Alessandro... consummate servant leader.
Question: Do uses of Rigor Mortis stack? (i.e. if I hit him with it again he's down 3 dice plus whatever I get on the next one)
Second Question: Ashen Lady's Embrace requires a touch. Can I touch him with a fist to the face?
The rules/action economy probably doesn't allow it... But, was thinking...
Alessandro carries Michele to Dunstan offering Michele to take blood, heal... then deliver him to within striking distance.
Acting Justicar delivering... justice. Quite literally.
Great story-wise, Michele has the most vested interest. It's kinda his fight.
Alessandro... consummate servant leader.
You giving Michele blood, that'd kill a round probably more, Michele can get there without being carried there I guess is the point.
Question: Do uses of Rigor Mortis stack? (i.e. if I hit him with it again he's down 3 dice plus whatever I get on the next one)
Second Question: Ashen Lady's Embrace requires a touch. Can I touch him with a fist to the face?
No, it's one use per victim. You could try again and if you got MORE successes it would supercede the original.
I don't see why not, but a touch DC would probably be a 5 versus a punch DC would be a 6. Of course the punch allows you to do some slam damage too I suppose!
I currently fully intend to attack Dunstan when it’s my turn since all his actions are taken. If we can bring him down or hurt him enough we got a change. He has to do 7 damage to me to put me in torpor.
Based on distance, how many attacks does Alessandro get?
I'm used to the Pathfinder movement losses full attack mechanic, so always unsure.
1 BP for Celerity 2
2 BP to pump Strength to 6
Based on distance, how many attacks does Alessandro get?
I'm used to the Pathfinder movement losses full attack mechanic, so always unsure.
1 BP for Celerity 2
2 BP to pump Strength to 6
All 3!
I think I did it right. A little lame on the rolls.
Max trait rating at 5th Generation is 8 Lorenzo, the V20 rules (interestingly enough) state that you can increase PAST that Generational limit by 1 for three turns. So you could go to 9 for 3 turns. I'll drop the last die off of each roll, you get 2 BP back. I'll adjudicate it that way. And yes, since you punched when delivering the power, that extra damage about minimum success is added to your damage check, I'll add that on I/C.
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Rolls looked good to me Alessandro! Let's see if he soaks all of that!
LOL, removing the extra die in Lorenzo's first attack, removed a botch which increased successes! So that's 7 successes on the attack.
Which means an extra 4 damage, so that extra die on damage I will leave and add 3 more, doing that now...
Teamwork makes the dream work! You each did a bit of damage to him, let's see if Geoffroi goes for the kill or stays on course against Cantor.
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Geoffroi, you're on the 48 hour clock, though these last few days it's been the 48 minute clock! :-)
Max trait rating at 5th Generation is 8 Lorenzo, the V20 rules (interestingly enough) state that you can increase PAST that Generational limit by 1 for three turns. So you could go to 9 for 3 turns. I'll drop the last die off of each roll, you get 2 BP back. I'll adjudicate it that way. And yes, since you punched when delivering the power, that extra damage about minimum success is added to your damage check, I'll add that on I/C.
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Rolls looked good to me Alessandro! Let's see if he soaks all of that!
Pretty sure you could always go 1 beyond generational limit. I just had a brain cramp around what the maximums were for 5th gen.
Pretty sure you could always go 1 beyond generational limit. I just had a brain cramp around what the maximums were for 5th gen.Max trait rating at 5th Generation is 8 Lorenzo, the V20 rules (interestingly enough) state that you can increase PAST that Generational limit by 1 for three turns. So you could go to 9 for 3 turns. I'll drop the last die off of each roll, you get 2 BP back. I'll adjudicate it that way. And yes, since you punched when delivering the power, that extra damage about minimum success is added to your damage check, I'll add that on I/C.
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Rolls looked good to me Alessandro! Let's see if he soaks all of that!
Huh, I'll have to look at the Second Edition books, I don't recall that.
There's probably over 100 Blood Points EASY spent pumping stats and using Disciplines in this battle.
Almost EVERYONE is down to single digit blood points.
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OK, you all know that Dunstan is 5th, that makes Marco 6th. None of you know who Embraced Gunther, but you'd wager it was a Brujah, so there's a chance that Dunstan is his Sire as well making HIM 6th too.
Giovanni is 7th (no one gets anything from drinking him). He's also a Scion of the Inner Circle member of Clan Assamite, inasmuch as anyone really cares about all of that.
Nicolo's Generation is unknown but he's probably 7th or even weaker.
Bassanio was spared. Veronica fled and Cantor just fled.
There's no Prince, if Gunther and Marco were Dunstan's they were illegally Embraced. Essentially, free eatins.
Lorenzo and Michele are already 5th so no advancement possible.
Alessandro and Geoffroi are both 7th.
Ranerius is 6th.
All three of you can advance a Generation EACH right now if you so choose. Of course, it comes at the cost of 1 point of Humanity. For Ranerius, as Dunstan has force of will, it also comes at risk of a soul shard [though that's certainly one heck of a birthday present if you choose to unwrap it Ridge!]
OR you take them all back to be "tried" by whoever becomes Prince of the city.
Decisions... decisions...
Oh, and pretty much ALL of you need to feed soon, very g~!##+ned soon...
Back to regular time posting, I'm super behind on work right now, thank god that battle's done, you guys had me on triple OT in the thread!!!
Top 5 battle I've ever run in a Vamp game folks and I've run a hell of a lot of Vamp games... well done everyone.
Take a End of Chronicle award of 20 XP.
All Willpower back at full strength.
Blood is still a problem though...
Geoffroi is actually 6th. He was sired by the same vampire as Andrew, who then exited stage left and left Andrew to take care of his ‘brother’
Geoffroi is actually 6th. He was sired by the same vampire as Andrew, who then exited stage left and left Andrew to take care of his ‘brother’
That was some sort of oversight, Andrew is 7th... see the link above but uh, you can get to 6th right now if you like!
Huh. I could have sworn…. Ok. Well F it, grab the 6 then
Huh. I could have sworn…. Ok. Well F it, grab the 6 then
OK!
Lose 1 Humanity. You stay 6th Generation. You also gain 1 free dot of Potence! No contest of Wills here and no soul shard.
No blood either, Marco was BONE dry.
First!
YAY!
Second, It would be lying to say Ranerius wasn't tempted. He's had the 'you're not an elder so shut up' shoved in his face so often I can see why he might consider this. On the other hand it is still frowned on and he may be lower in humanity than he was but he still might have trouble
Three, my Toreador is wanting a bargaining Chip with if he can get it, not for himself, but for the whole group. What form that chip should take it's not sure and he will probably look to his sneakier peers for guidance.
Edited my initial post-fight post to respond to some of the posts that were made while I was posting.
Edited my initial post-fight post to respond to some of the posts that were made while I was posting.
Huge traffic jam in here tonight!
Sorry, insomina hit at the worst time which means i may post late tomorrow but I will certainly decide my toreador's action sometime then
Sorry, insomina hit at the worst time which means i may post late tomorrow but I will certainly decide my toreador's action sometime then
No worries, Gunther is spared from Diablerie, but will be live as a prisoner... let's see :)
I think we cross posted. Geoffroi was going to spare Marco out of deference to Michele - giving him the right to determine his ultimate fate as his kin. But, alas…
I think we cross posted. Geoffroi was going to spare Marco out of deference to Michele - giving him the right to determine his ultimate fate as his kin. But, alas…
Ah, well, we can retcon and you can have eaten Gunther instead?
Whichever. Geoffroi was more concerned about not creating a blood feud unnecessarily. Being a Norman nobleman, albeit in a very minor fashion, he is very cognizant of familial loyalties, even between relatives that might not be on the best terms. At the least, Michele would likely wish to deal with Marco himself, or give leave for someone to do so
Whichever. Geoffroi was more concerned about not creating a blood feud unnecessarily. Being a Norman nobleman, albeit in a very minor fashion, he is very cognizant of familial loyalties, even between relatives that might not be on the best terms. At the least, Michele would likely wish to deal with Marco himself, or give leave for someone to do so
Fair enough! Gunther was a "commoner" so no issues there. This means that Lorenzo used Ashes to Ashes on Gunther instead.
Marco's body is still torpid.
Pardon, I have a question of legality. Did Bion tell us this was a bloodhunt or the like? I'm trying to see if we have a legal loophole for slurping folks down IF we decide we want to play those games with political 'You told me I could' stuff.
Pardon, I have a question of legality. Did Bion tell us this was a bloodhunt or the like? I'm trying to see if we have a legal loophole for slurping folks down IF we decide we want to play those games with political 'You told me I could' stuff.
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Venice by Night - Friday - April 4, 1309
The Streets of Venice to Bion's Lair -
...Bion frowns, "I give you leave Alessandro Khadaji to either set this one free or to pass judgment upon him , so long as neither is done in front of my own eyes"....
Bion was willing to turn a blind eye to the Amaranth of Kestral provided he didn't "know about it". He would probably feel the same way about Dunstan, if not more so as Dunstan was a direct threat to Venice. So a case can certainly be made for the legality of the act.
Bion is a steward so really he cannot call a Blood Hunt, he can declare enemies of the realm but it's not exactly the same thing.
Who doesn't trust Onfroi?
Who doesn't trust Onfroi?
Lorenzo certainly doesn't
Who doesn't trust Onfroi?
Re read the thread posts right before the battle begins
Just in case, I'm not being clear, Ranerius FULLY expects a 'vote' of the coterie to be 'Guilty' for Dunstan and him to be put to final death, but just by having the vote among the Coterie , they end up setting up Bion (and other elders) so they have to say "Oh yeah, you had that approval when we sent you out" to at least set a precedent that those doing the dirty deeds get a say officially, or Bion and the elders can say "You can't do that" but our group can say "Then you aren't really in charge because it happened, and your claim to princehood is pretty weak, now have your elder civil war that's going to be costly to you, too costly."
I hope I'm making sense, I'm rather sleep depped but didn't want to keep you guys waiting for too long
Just in case, I'm not being clear, Ranerius FULLY expects a 'vote' of the coterie to be 'Guilty' for Dunstan and him to be put to final death, but just by having the vote among the Coterie , they end up setting up Bion (and other elders) so they have to say "Oh yeah, you had that approval when we sent you out" to at least set a precedent that those doing the dirty deeds get a say officially, or Bion and the elders can say "You can't do that" but our group can say "Then you aren't really in charge because it happened, and your claim to princehood is pretty weak, now have your elder civil war that's going to be costly to you, too costly."
I hope I'm making sense, I'm rather sleep depped but didn't want to keep you guys waiting for too long
OR you're ALL guilty and we Elders, kill you all... :)
Power is Power. ;)
Just in case, I'm not being clear, Ranerius FULLY expects a 'vote' of the coterie to be 'Guilty' for Dunstan and him to be put to final death, but just by having the vote among the Coterie , they end up setting up Bion (and other elders) so they have to say "Oh yeah, you had that approval when we sent you out" to at least set a precedent that those doing the dirty deeds get a say officially, or Bion and the elders can say "You can't do that" but our group can say "Then you aren't really in charge because it happened, and your claim to princehood is pretty weak, now have your elder civil war that's going to be costly to you, too costly."
I hope I'm making sense, I'm rather sleep depped but didn't want to keep you guys waiting for too long
OR you're ALL guilty and we Elders, kill you all... :)
Power is Power. ;)
Easy there, Cersei.
MIGHT be a risk, but the hope is the elders are too against each other to unify against our coterie anyway. Let's face it, they've been screaming "Tastes Great" "LESS FILLING" at each other for over a century now and many left Venice when things got hard ;)
Ah NOW I get what you're saying Ranerius!
That's certainly option C.
It somewhat butts up against Michele's plan to leave someone here as the fall guy "Knight" who was trying to free Marco Querini. There's three options for who that could be: (i) Nicolo, impossible as a Nosferatu, (ii) Dunstan, or (iii) Giovanni.
If you spare Dunstan and put him on trial do you leave Giovanni post Final Death as the "Knight" that Isaac stopped from freeing Marco? Giovanni though is an ACTUAL Scion of an ACTUAL Inner Circle member, Dunstan's Sire lost to Criatas.
No way Marco could have escaped on his own so for Michele's set up of the Hunters to work, one of the two has to be left behind.
As far as a trial of Dunstan, if that's the route you go, we will address that in the new chronicle that will start once you vacate the Doge's Palace.
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Decisions, decisions... soon enough, you'll all be out of time to make one if you don;t make one quick!
FYI Geoffroi has family around all weekend so he's probably not going to chime in. He's not big on Politics anyway considering Politics are what brought the Templars low so he would go with group consensus.
The way I see it:
Michele & Lorenzo want to destroy him (if Ranerius eats him that's fine too).
Ranerius wants to drag him along and put him on trial.
Alessandro, what's your opinion? If you vote trial we have a tie and Lydia and Andrew would be tie breakers...
Michele & Lorenzo want to destroy him (if Ranerius eats him that's fine too).Ranerius wants to drag him along and put him on trial.
Well, again Ranerius idea of a trial will probably be something like
"We're having a trial. Votes?" Everyone of our coterie says 'Guilty' and ashes the guy but now it's a legal power statement
By Vampire standards this is almost a fair hearing! :) And everyone gets Dunstan dead anyway