shaventalz |
I have a few possibilities, and can bring any based on APL and party composition. I may need to update some online character sheets.
1) Onjatan Slagson - Level 8 melee that can also do ranged. Not great at skills or talking. Has a shy familiar that's better at skills. Likes: Rock, Araga. Dislikes: Pathfinders that don't follow the Venture-Captains instructions.
2) Granny Cheechatkae - Level 9 with skills and casting. Very at (most) talking, pretty good at knowledges and trapspringing, decent nanny for the young'uns.
3) Athelstan Terrel - Level 11 warrior of Aroden. Shiny armor, holy sword, horse, etc. Good at talking and knowing which side of the holy symbol faces up.
4) Dorei Shiorshta - Level 11 melee with pet. Humble slave of Master. Strong believer in the pecking order. Has a list of things he's bitten in combat or otherwise eaten.
roll4initiative |
I have many, and I mean many options. Will see what the party needs for support.
Maybe we could all do something crazy like an all rogue/bard party. Or all spellcasters. All red-heads.
shaventalz |
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I have many, and I mean many options. Will see what the party needs for support.
Maybe we could all do something crazy like an all rogue/bard party. Or all spellcasters. All red-heads.
I'm not seeing many commonalities between Kahwen and Trokkus, never mind whoever the rest of the PCs end up being. "Has a sword" isn't a really strong theme.
shaventalz |
my options are a rogue/slayer/brawler and a swashbuckler for high tier...or a swashbuckler for low tier....would be funny to have Mykel team up with Kahwen again....but if we need a rogue/trapspringer, I can bring my =01 in..he's handy with a blade and a bow...
It's season 0; Kahwen's +17 is probably fine. If not, and if we need someone less frontline, I could bring Granny - she's got +19 disable device and shaman casting. With aid from Kahwen, that would put our Take10 at 31.
shaventalz |
so my +29 is overkill then?
There's no such thing. I'd be surprised if that kind of modifier was necessary here, though. If you were wanting to use a different PC, I'd imagine it's fairly safe to do so.
This is, of course, just a generalization. Play what you want, or think we need.
Jory Redcap |
Jory has completed : First steps 1,2,3 and Temple of Empyreal Enlightenment, Rise of Goblin Guild, Frostfur Captives, Way of Kirin, The Blakros Matrimony, Veterans Vault, Among the Gods, Thistletop[3XP], Traitorous Lodge, To Scale the Dragon, Silver Mount, Among the Gods, Ghanett Manor Guantlet, Test of Tar Kuata, Siege of Serpents, Refuge of Time
which I think means he can level to 8, let me check
shaventalz |
With six players and season 0, anything over APL 8.5 is going to be high-tier. So assuming that.
I'm currently leaning towards bringing Granny. We've got a melee paladin from Jhaeman, a melee rogue from EbonFist, the two PCs grimdog73 mentioned seem to be melee... me bringing another melee might cause issues, especially on maps intended for 4 PCs. That'll give us some mixed casting and knowledges (however much use they'll get in season 0). Granny is level 9, so out-of-tier, but I'm not terribly worried about that here.
Thoughts?
shaventalz |
@shaventalz,
Granny looks great! The shaman has a very nice spell list and since this seems like an archaeological expedition, the level of investigator might be helpful.
I don't really see the Shaman spell list as "good". It doesn't seem to know what it's trying to be, and feels unfocused. That said, it has some healing and some blasting and some buffing and so on, so it can be made to work if you're missing other casters.
I’ve run or played almost all of Season 0. They don’t tend to be overly challenging for modern Pathfinder PCs. My advice is not to overthink things and just play whatever PC sounds fun.
Agreed. Season 0 was designed for 4 players running less-powerful 3.5 classes, and also tended to be light on skill challenges. Supposedly there were a few scenarios that were badly-balanced, but those have been retired and forgotten.
Granny Cheechatkae |
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@shaventalz,
Granny looks great! The shaman has a very nice spell list and since this seems like an archaeological expedition, the level of investigator might be helpful.
"Dearie, something always goes wrong with these expeditions." Granny gives a small smile, shaking her head slightly. "Golems or undead who aren't done using the city, or a rift to the Abyss sitting in the town hall, or something equally bothersome. How have you made it this far in the Pathfinders without realizing that?"
roll4initiative |
If you're bringing in Granny, I should bring Inga & Klaus.
Inga's entourage consists of a couple children that can be unruly at times. Junia is very shy but struggling with controlling her own phantom which causes anxiety issues.
Jeeves is somewhat too enthusiastic about becoming a mighty warrior so he tends to annoy the warriors in the party a bit too often. However, he is quite helpful with assisting warriors of the party with their arms & armor and hauling stuff around in his little wagon.
Inga's Phantom, Klaus the Werewolf, needs a stern talking to once in awhile when his anger overtakes him. And Smörboll... Ugh. He's sooo grumpy at times and complains if nothing goes his way.
Being an Ulfen, he's gonna hate the jungle!
Inga would be more than happy to have a motherly figure like Granny around.
Jory Redcap |
If Jory is allowed to tag along, he would love to have a cleric/inquisitor like Sir Ivan to cast continual flame and use his fancy vials on an item for him. (So he can dispel deeper darkness for others, his darkvision works fine)
Jory also carries a wand of mage armor he can't use. Turns out it has 40 charges, so 10 kind strangers could help him with it in the past.
Granny Cheechatkae |
If you're bringing in Granny, I should bring Inga & Klaus.
Inga's entourage consists of a couple children that can be unruly at times. Junia is very shy but struggling with controlling her own phantom which causes anxiety issues.
Jeeves is somewhat too enthusiastic about becoming a mighty warrior so he tends to annoy the warriors in the party a bit too often. However, he is quite helpful with assisting warriors of the party with their arms & armor and hauling stuff around in his little wagon.
Inga's Phantom, Klaus the Werewolf, needs a stern talking to once in awhile when his anger overtakes him. And Smörboll... Ugh. He's sooo grumpy at times and complains if nothing goes his way.
Being an Ulfen, he's gonna hate the jungle!Inga would be more than happy to have a motherly figure like Granny around.
"My, that's quite a group. I met Junia several years back... it must have been 4717. Time flies, doesn't it? I do speak Skald, which might help get Smörboll's attention, but I can't really say until I meet them."
If Jory is allowed to tag along, he would love to have a cleric/inquisitor like Sir Ivan to cast continual flame and use his fancy vials on an item for him. (So he can dispel deeper darkness for others, his darkvision works fine)
Jory also carries a wand of mage armor he can't use. Turns out it has 40 charges, so 10 kind strangers could help him with it in the past.
"I can use that wand if you'd like. It would be no trouble at all."
Jory Redcap |
And, since there is a wealth of PFS experience.
Jory has been disillusioned with the Grand Lodge since he refused a mission that went against his moral code. When asked to switch, he was told it would cost like 3xlevel to switch in PP, and that made him even more upset with the Grand Lodge. I assume switching factions is still very PP prohibitive.
With a high movement speed Jory has always thought of taking the fast stealth feat, but since stealth in combat never seems to come up, he has never taken it.
shaventalz |
Jory has been disillusioned with the Grand Lodge since he refused a mission that went against his moral code. When asked to switch, he was told it would cost like 3xlevel to switch in PP, and that made him even more upset with the Grand Lodge. I assume switching factions is still very PP prohibitive.
That is still the case - see page 32 of the PFS Roleplaying Guild Guide.
However, some very old faction cards have a goal that lets that PC help another PC change factions. Essentially, if you happen to sit at a table with someone from a faction you like that played that PC in Season 6, you might be able to pay 1PP per level to switch. Problem is, that was in 2014, so a lot of those old PCs may have leveled out by now, and not all of the factions had that goal.
What faction(s) were you looking at?
And... bit of a long shot here, but I assume you've played Jory at least once after 2017?
shaventalz |
Sadly Jory last played Nov 2016.
In that case, it looks like you're able to change him to the Concordance of Elements for free (last line of this blog post; haven't found the promised text in any Guide updates.) Not sure if that appeals to Jory or not.
Silver Crusade would be his wish
Silver Crusade is one of the factions that has that goal, but sadly Granny joined in Season 7. I've copied the text below, in case you want to ask other Silver Crusaders about it. Maybe Trokkus is old enough? As for the skill requirement, you just leveled up - you could probably grab three ranks now if necessary.
Sponsor another PC to join your faction. To fulfill this goal, that PC must then join the Silver Crusade by spending only 1
Prestige Point per character level (one-third the normal cost). The PC must have at least 6 XP and at least three ranks in
any combination of the following skills: Diplomacy, Heal, Knowledge (planes), or Knowledge (religion).
but let’s keep him a Grumpy member of Grand Lodge hoping the Lantern Lodge comes back again.
And... sorry, but with PF1 development abandoned, the only way Jory has a hope of joining the Lantern Lodge is if he forgets all the skills he's learned and rejoins in PF2. Even that's a long shot.
shaventalz |
Thanks for the info, looked at the druid faction. Jory will stay Grand Lodge and be grumpy about it, which is maybe better for a dwarf than changing and be happy. Or maybe it is more in his nature.
Statistically, only a little more than 14% of dwarves are grumpy. About the same amount as the ones who could normally be described as "happy."
Interestingly, there's a much higher proportion of dwarven doctors than among other races.
shaventalz |
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Jory Redcap wrote:Ivan with continual flame for Jory to use his vials makes the dwarf as happy as a grumpy dwarf can beHow does continual flame benefit/affect your vials?
In this post, he mentions buying 3 vials of "dzebet" for 600gp. I suspect he's talking about the special material Djezet, vials of which sell for 200gp per. The effect is Heighten Spell in a consumable, which would combo well with continual flame.
However... djezet is not normally available. The chronicle that I suspect he's buying it from has different (more expensive and limited) rules for the material.
If he adventures with someone (like a cleric or inquisitor) with the ability to prepare that as a 3rd-level spell, he can heighten the flame enough to shine through deeper darkness. Not sure if Ivan has the levels for that, though.
EDIT: And now I'm really curious how something like shadow evocation interacts with... well, ANY of this. Illusory light created from shadows that you can disbelieve but works if you don't, with a native spell level of 5?
shaventalz |
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We have Trokkus, Granny, and Jory so far. Wondering what PCs the others are bringing.
I'm leaning towards bringing Inga.
Kahwen is the PC name EbonFist gave, so presumably that one.
That would make it archer, paladin, rogue, rogue, shaman. Plus you.
Inga Blücher |
"Many of my spells are to benefit Klaus. However, I am able to cast a few nice utility spells as well. I hear this is an archaeological expedition. We may need to give that some thought."
Feel free to offer any suggestions for Inga. She's in the market for some magical shoes or boots, among other wearable magic items.
Granny Cheechatkae |
"Well, I have a nice cozy campfire packed up from a previous expedition, if we end up staying long."
Granny starts digging through her backpack. "Goodness, I didn't remember how many scrolls I'd stashed in here. I have a shining wayfinder to spot any Evil artifacts, though our Paladin could probably handle that as well."
"Traveler's any-tool for handling the dirt or debris. Chalk, charcoal, parchment, journal, inkpens and ink... I only have 50' of rope and two pitons, if we need to hold something in place, so maybe we should take more of those? "
"I also have a half-dozen sets of earplugs, but I would hope we won't need them on a "simple expedition." Who can say how this will go, though?"
Natharanak seems about to squawk something, but Granny quickly shushes him. "Yes, I know, prophet. It was rhetorical."
"For you two?" Granny looks them up and down. "What about a pair of feather step slippers for Klaus? I don't much care for magical footwear myself, but they might do him some good."
Inga Blücher |
I used to really like feather step slippers until they nerfed 'em. I purchase items mainly for Inga. I don't think phantoms can wear items. They supposedly fall to the floor when a phantom is shunted back into the spiritualist's mind. Jeeves does carry a scythe for Klaus if he needs it, though.
I can't find the rules anywhere about whether or not phantoms can wear armor, boots, belts, etc... I'll dig around some more.
shaventalz |
I used to really like feather step slippers until they nerfed 'em. I purchase items mainly for Inga. I don't think phantoms can wear items. They supposedly fall to the floor when a phantom is shunted back into the spiritualist's mind. Jeeves does carry a scythe for Klaus if he needs it, though.
I can't find the rules anywhere about whether or not phantoms can wear armor, boots, belts, etc... I'll dig around some more.
Check the phantom's write-up, specifically the Link ability.
Inga Blücher |
Inga Blücher wrote:Check the phantom's write-up, specifically the Link ability.I used to really like feather step slippers until they nerfed 'em. I purchase items mainly for Inga. I don't think phantoms can wear items. They supposedly fall to the floor when a phantom is shunted back into the spiritualist's mind. Jeeves does carry a scythe for Klaus if he needs it, though.
I can't find the rules anywhere about whether or not phantoms can wear armor, boots, belts, etc... I'll dig around some more.
Ahh! There it is! Thanks!!!
I did find this, which is quite helpful. Apparently, phantoms can't wear armor.
Phantom Guide