Jisara |
I'm back, though I haven't been feeling super great the last couple days.
“Chance” Ravennablitz |
I will gladly state our business but with my champion's code aversion to lying it will be rather direct. If anyone wants to speak more discretely, I'll give you a chance to speak up before I do.
Lying? On it!
“Chance” Ravennablitz |
I’m thinking we go with the old “Quick! Sound the alarm! There’s an army coming towards the pass from … that way!” scam.* Any objections, criticisms, additions?
Edrakk’s player and I once played a PFS scenario in which the party conned their way into a prison by pretending to be pastry chefs and managed to drug most of the guards, but Chance forgot to bring his chef’s whites (or any pastries), so that’s probably out.
*(And yes, I know I said we shouldn’t do that the other day, but that was before we realized how narrow our search area is likely to be.)
GM Xavier Kahlvet |
Edrakk’s player and I once played a PFS scenario in which the party conned their way into a prison by pretending to be pastry chefs and managed to drug most of the guards, but Chance forgot to bring his chef’s whites (or any pastries), so that’s probably out.
Funnier thing is that they already have a chef in Menador Keep.
Vitalis Tanessen |
My ideas:
Option 1) "The Silver Ravens have arrived! Throw down your weapons and surrender and we will escort you to safety before we destroy the keep. Otherwise, we will be forced to liberate your heads from your necks."
Option 2) "We are here on behalf of Barzillai Thrune to deliver a message to his "brother" Lucian Thrune. As you can see by the gifts bestowed upon us," (show off our armor, weapons, etc.) "we are favored by House Thrune and you would do well to show us some hospitality and offer us some refreshments; Our journey has been long."
I don't know what Lucian's relationship to Barzillai is actually. Maybe a Society check?
Society: 1d20 + 14 ⇒ (6) + 14 = 20
Vitalis Tanessen |
Chance, if you want to bluff that an army is coming, do we have any way to back that up? Sounds, illusions, or anything?
GM Xavier Kahlvet |
I don't know what Lucian's relationship to Barzillai is actually. Maybe a Society check?
Distant cousins.
Edrakk Chrysanthemum |
EDIT:
Edrakk Chrysanthemum wrote:I'll do some shopping and/or crafting next, although I wanted to ask: I found this spiderfoot elixir which I thought might come in handy in the mountain, but it's an uncommon item, and it doesn't immediately say anything about any in-universe restrictions. Would Edrakk be able to find the formula for this if he went shopping for it?Oh my gosh! I’m such an idiot! I completely misunderstood what you were saying here. I thought you meant that you ALREADY HAD a spiderfoot elixir. That’s why I was talking about the reverse-engineering the formula. I didn’t realize that you were asking me if you could buy an uncommon thing. Yes, I’ll let you buy the formula for the spiderfoot elixir. And as a sign of good faith, I’ll retroactively let you apply that nat 20 to the pointless reverse-engineering attempt to the Spread Disinformation instead.
[dice=Notoriety Reduction]2d6
I’m so sorry about that, Edrakk. I’ll refund you the downtime days you spent trying to reverse-engineer because it was a misunderstanding on my part.
So I’m waiting on Edrakk to resolve 31 days of downtime.
...I just realized I completely forgot to get the spiderfoot elixir. Would I be able to retcon Edrakk giving Chance his shopping on the first day Chance spent shopping? If not, would I be able to replace the Skinstich Salve with the spiderfoot elixir and a moderate Mistform Elixir?
My ideas:
Option 1) "The Silver Ravens have arrived! Throw down your weapons and surrender and we will escort you to safety before we destroy the keep. Otherwise, we will be forced to liberate your heads from your necks."
Option 2) "We are here on behalf of Barzillai Thrune to deliver a message to his "brother" Lucian Thrune. As you can see by the gifts bestowed upon us," (show off our armor, weapons, etc.) "we are favored by House Thrune and you would do well to show us some hospitality and offer us some refreshments; Our journey has been long."
I don't know what Lucian's relationship to Barzillai is actually. Maybe a Society check?
[dice=Society]1d20+14
I feel like option 1 would just get them to attack us, they don't seem like they'd be intimidated easily. Option 2 might work though. The army plan might also work, but I'd worry that we'd just end up getting them on high alert when we're trying to attack.
Vitalis Tanessen |
I feel like option 1 would just get them to attack us, they don't seem like they'd be intimidated easily. Option 2 might work though. The army plan might also work, but I'd worry that we'd just end up getting them on high alert when we're trying to attack.
Obviously, my first option would just them to attack us immediately. That's why I've delayed posting. =P
GM Xavier Kahlvet |
...I just realized I completely forgot to get the spiderfoot elixir. Would I be able to retcon Edrakk giving Chance his shopping on the first day Chance spent shopping? If not, would I be able to replace the Skinstich Salve with the spiderfoot elixir and a moderate Mistform Elixir?
Go ahead.
Vitalis Tanessen |
(Vitalis will justify any fibs in the same way he did when bluffing to rescue the slaves at the Salt Works, as a means to hopefully prevent or reduce harm or bloodshed against those he may not need to fight.)
Speaking of which, Vitalis will have the Shifting property from the Blade Ally ability applied to his halberd in case he wants to switch it to something less lethal. I don't think there are actually any nonlethal 2-handed weapons but I could make it something with disarm or trip.
“Chance” Ravennablitz |
Sorry, long few days at work and I was a little unsure how folks wanted to proceed. Chance certainly isn’t going to improve on Vitalis’s Deception roll, so I’ll hold off until the guard reacts.
Vitalis Tanessen |
”My cousin, Paracount Barzillai of the Thrice-Damned House of Thrune, has sent you to deliver a message for me? Speak now!”
Shit. What do I say now? I didn't think I'd get this far. =P
“Chance” Ravennablitz |
Lucian Thrune wrote:”My cousin, Paracount Barzillai of the Thrice-Damned House of Thrune, has sent you to deliver a message for me? Speak now!”S#**. What do I say now? I didn't think I'd get this far. =P
No worries - the half-hearted applause gave Chance an idea.
GM Xavier Kahlvet |
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Okay, I'm going to give Chance a +3 circumstance bonus on his Deception check based on what he just said. Lucian is a very arrogant man, and Chance is very much playing to the man's paranoia.
However, even with the +3, that is a failure. You can use a Hero Point if you wish.
“Chance” Ravennablitz |
Thanks! And yes, using the Hero Point now.
Edit to add: Sigh.
GM Xavier Kahlvet |
edit: Ninja'd GM Xavier and Chance snuck in a post while I was working on mine. Can I use Diplomacy? I'm not really being deception with what I'm saying? If using Deception, the result is two less. Either way, it's unfortunately probably too low.
I'll allow it. But, again, that is a failure, which you can reroll if you so wish.
Vitalis Tanessen |
With the -4 I don’t have a good chance. I’ll save my reroll for later and deal with the consequences.
Jisara |
Hey everyone, I'm so sorry. I wound up being really sick, like "we have to send you somewhere else because we don't have the tools to diagnose you" sick, and so was not in a state to play games. I'm doing much better but also have finals in the next two days (lucky me) so I'm going to try and get caught up as soon as I can.
Vitalis Tanessen |
”You are messengers, not guests! I will not ask again: What is the Lord-Mayor’s message to me?”
So are you guys ready for a fight? Because if so, I'll just announce that we're here to destroy the Keep.
We should probably keep an eye out on the side doors. They might be locked but if we can get inside, it might be better than fighting in the open, especially with the flying enemies.
“Chance” Ravennablitz |
Nice job, Jisara!
I’ll post in the morning (not to foreclose anyone who has a brilliant idea before then).
Vitalis Tanessen |
Yes, great job Jisara.
So we have him alone in a room without his dragon. We should probably take him out now. We're not going to get a better opportunity, I don't think.
Jisara |
Agreed, that was my first thought, though I didn't want to just go straight into it before anyone else had a chance to chime in. We'd probably have a round or two before reinforcements arrive.
Vitalis Tanessen |
Even if reinforcements come, we are much better off fighting in the Keep than outside. The small rooms can bottleneck enemies if we face a large number of them and can limit flying for the erinyes and wyvern (if it comes inside). If any enemies are waiting for us outside, I don't think we really need to go out and meet them. Let them come inside to get us if they really want to.
Jisara |
I've somehow managed to get sick again with something completely different, which is just lovely.
“Chance” Ravennablitz |
I've somehow managed to get sick again with something completely different, which is just lovely.
Well, that’s terrible. Best wishes for a speedy recovery (and understanding professors who will let you reschedule finals).
“Chance” Ravennablitz |
Busy couple of days at work so I won’t be able to post until later this evening.
@GM - Two questions:
- Have the hinges on the door to the hallway been broken, or were you describing what will happen when the Squaddies break through?
- The initiative tracker shows Chance down -28 hp, but I only see -26 from Lucian’s attack (10 of those will come off his temporary hp from false life, but I’ll track that).
GM Xavier Kahlvet |
- Have the hinges on the door to the hallway been broken, or were you describing what will happen when the Squaddies break through?
They are currently broken. The squadron didn't get a crit success to Force Open, so they ended up damaging the door in the process.
- The initiative tracker shows Chance down -28 hp, but I only see -26 from Lucian’s attack (10 of those will come off his temporary hp from false life, but I’ll track that).
Splash damage from Edrakk's turn.
Jisara |
I'm back on my feet, again, and hopefully stay healthy this time.
Jisara |
Sorry for being out so much the last few weeks.
“Chance” Ravennablitz |
I’m glad you’re finally feeling better.
Jisara |
Gotcha, I misunderstood how the process to bust through the door worked. I thought that they would need another Force Open to actually open it, since only the Critical Success effect specifically says the object is opened, particularly if the object is "especially sturdy."
I'd have probably cast life boost on Chance rather than shield, if that's okay.
Vitalis Tanessen |
”Lucian!” The captain shouts back
Ha. That was just a typo on my part, but we can go with it.
Edrakk Chrysanthemum |
Erinys Fort vs Poison: 1d20 + 17 ⇒ (17) + 17 = 34 Exactly a crit success (since it uses Edrakk’s class DC), so the erinys is no longer poisoned.
I'm pretty sure that's only if the base DC is lower than my class DC (unless you've ruled differently earlier and I just didn't see it), and the base DC for giant wasp venom is 25, so that should just be a regular success.
...and you can change the DCs of your infused poisons to your class DC if it's higher.
GM Xavier Kahlvet |
You are completely correct. In my defense, my brain was kinda on 1e mode and telling me “it’s lower leveled, so obviously the DC must suck, so I’m gonna go with Edrakk’s class DC.”
Vitalis Tanessen |
You’re also hasted, Vitalis, so you could make another action. I’ll assume it’s a second attack against the erinys.
I forgot about the haste. Another attack is fine.
GM Xavier Kahlvet |
Some context regarding my recent absence:
1. Christmas. Duh.
2. I’m currently at home (I usually live on-campus) and I’ve been playing a long video game my brother owns (God of War Ragnarok, if you’re curious), and I can only play it during this period of time, so I’m trying to finish it before I have to go back to college.
3. My mental health has taken a serious toll because I just failed one of my classes and as a result am getting kicked out of my department. I’m trying to fight for an appeal, because I feel the whole situation is unfair (68% average on the final and no curving whatsoever), but it’s not going as I have been wishing.
I will be back at college (and thus regular posting) on Jan 3rd.
Jisara |
Take your time. I'm sorry to hear your department is being so harsh to you, but hopefully the holiday break will let them listen to reason.
Vitalis Tanessen |
Sorry to hear about your class.
I'm playing Ragnarok too. It's pretty good. I've liked the last two God of War games but I feel like they lack the amount of god killing that the earlier games had, and that was the funnest part.
“Chance” Ravennablitz |
Take all the time you need. I’m sorry to hear about your department’s action, hopefully they give you the opportunity to appeal.
“Chance” Ravennablitz |
Today’s Paizo blog links to and summarizes the latest errata release for the Core Rulebook (now 4th edition), as well as a new schedule for errata going forward.
I, for one, am glad to have confirmation that Chance will be able to cast soothe to heal undead creatures.
GM Xavier Kahlvet |
Today’s Paizo blog links to and summarizes the latest errata release for the Core Rulebook (now 4th edition), as well as a new schedule for errata going forward.
I, for one, am glad to have confirmation that Chance will be able to cast soothe to heal undead creatures.
Yeah...except that creatures with the undead trait are still immune to effects with the healing trait. (A fact that I pointed out in that blog)
Jisara |
Pages 301 and 634 (Clarification): Can a minion be quickened or slowed?
Yes. This can be a bit unclear because those conditions apply “at the start of your turn” and a minion can’t typically act until you use an action. Apply these conditions and any other effects that alter a minion’s number of actions when the minion gains its actions, using 2 actions and 0 reactions as the minion’s starting number. Though a minion can’t normally act when it’s not your turn, abilities that specifically grant a minion a reaction provide an exception to this (such as the Ferocious Beasts orc ancestry feat, Advanced Players Guide page 19).
So, I think the intent is clear, but they didn't mention minions who get an action even if not commanded (like a familiar with the Independent ability). Would you rule that Thatch would get a bonus Stride action? He wouldn't be able to use the extra action from haste since familiars can't Strike.
Jisara |
Ah, I misinterpreted the fact that there weren't any troops in it anymore as them having moved, but I guess those were just squares that got deleted as the troop was damaged. Sorry!
Would Chance or Edrakk be okay with delaying until after me? I am not going to have enough actions to get into the room and close the door behind me if I don't want to immediately get knocked the hell out.
“Chance” Ravennablitz |
Sorry - busy couple of days. Chance can certainly delay until after Jisara. I’ll check back in this evening after work.
GM Xavier Kahlvet |
Working on it. Kinda going through an existential crisis because of it