PF2: Playtesting til we just couldn't anymore (Inactive)

Game Master Wandering Wastrel

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The Gloved Hand I Elisabetta I Kyra I Luciana I Sasha I Violetta

I'd forgotten that - I remember the post from our coven game, now. Oh well, no rush.


The Gloved Hand I Elisabetta I Kyra I Luciana I Sasha I Violetta

Traveling again - I'll get a post up on Tuesday - sorry for the disruption


Skills:
Acro +7T, Ath +6T, Diplo +9T, Lore(Saren) +10E, Med +12E, Nature +11T, Reli +12E, Surv +11T
Cleric 7 | HP: 77/80 | AC:19 TAC:19 | F:+11 R:+10 W+13 | Perc +12E | SP 3/5 | Reso 8/11 | Speed 25 l Channel 3/5 l Active Conditions:

Oh so that's what Heightened +1 means. Okay thanks.

Grand Lodge

RETIRED: Saved the Isle of Kortos and now busy creating a very large family with his wives.

Thanks Roz. Sliding a post in from my phone with no access to 2E rulebook right Now!


Female N Human (Varisian) Oracle 14 | HP: 104/104 | AC 26 (13 Tch, 23 Fl) | CMB: +9, CMD: 22 | F: +11, R: +12, W: +13 | Init: +1 | Perc: +2, SM: +20 | Appearance

It seems enthusiasm for the playtest is waning across the board. Are we still interested in continuing this game?

Grand Lodge

RETIRED: Saved the Isle of Kortos and now busy creating a very large family with his wives.

I'm happy to but we might have lost the GM?


The Gloved Hand I Elisabetta I Kyra I Luciana I Sasha I Violetta

Sorry, still here! Trying to summon up the enthusiasm to keep going. I'll post something soon


The Gloved Hand I Elisabetta I Kyra I Luciana I Sasha I Violetta

I think they changed retributive strike so that it no longer interrupts the attacking strike?

Anyway, we're going with the version used that was current when we started this game (feels like years ago now).


Female N Human (Varisian) Oracle 14 | HP: 104/104 | AC 26 (13 Tch, 23 Fl) | CMB: +9, CMD: 22 | F: +11, R: +12, W: +13 | Init: +1 | Perc: +2, SM: +20 | Appearance

Yeah, the whole paladin class is quite different now. Best to stick to the version we started with through the end of this section of the module for consistency's sake.


The Gloved Hand I Elisabetta I Kyra I Luciana I Sasha I Violetta

Agree! still wrapping my head round the latest changes.


Skills:
Acro +7T, Ath +6T, Diplo +9T, Lore(Saren) +10E, Med +12E, Nature +11T, Reli +12E, Surv +11T
Cleric 7 | HP: 77/80 | AC:19 TAC:19 | F:+11 R:+10 W+13 | Perc +12E | SP 3/5 | Reso 8/11 | Speed 25 l Channel 3/5 l Active Conditions:

Please let me know if this is too metagamey

I took another look at the map and I'm wondering something. See the only 'formal' entrance into room 9 is through room 10. What if we built an encampment within room 10?

I think last fight got a little out of hand because there's a lot of surface area for the enemy to exploit. Also the barricade at the door did delay them, but we couldn't do anything about it until they broke through. Once they get smart enough to avoid the doors and just use the windows, we could have problems.


The Gloved Hand I Elisabetta I Kyra I Luciana I Sasha I Violetta

I don't think that's too metagamey at all, it sounds like good tactical thinking.

I'm pretty sure it's not what the module had in mind, but that's the game designer's problem, not ours.

Grand Lodge

RETIRED: Saved the Isle of Kortos and now busy creating a very large family with his wives.

Roz could probably hold a barricaded door by herself pretty easily, but shes the only one with reach...

What is it we really need to defend? Might as well start there and work outwards...


Female N Human (Varisian) Oracle 14 | HP: 104/104 | AC 26 (13 Tch, 23 Fl) | CMB: +9, CMD: 22 | F: +11, R: +12, W: +13 | Init: +1 | Perc: +2, SM: +20 | Appearance

We're supposed to protect the professor. I'm not sure what room he's in--the basement? We'd do well to gather around that entrance to keep him safe.

Grand Lodge

RETIRED: Saved the Isle of Kortos and now busy creating a very large family with his wives.

Barricade cellar door then, put what's her name behind it and then barricade the next room or two out from that and hold the line there? We'll be better if we're all nice and tight together.


Female N Human (Varisian) Oracle 14 | HP: 104/104 | AC 26 (13 Tch, 23 Fl) | CMB: +9, CMD: 22 | F: +11, R: +12, W: +13 | Init: +1 | Perc: +2, SM: +20 | Appearance
Ashlion of Vudra wrote:
We'll be better if we're all nice and tight together.

Yeah, we will! ;) ;) ;)

Sounds like a plan to me.

Grand Lodge

RETIRED: Saved the Isle of Kortos and now busy creating a very large family with his wives.
Rozalia Tilescu wrote:
Ashlion of Vudra wrote:
We'll be better if we're all nice and tight together.

Yeah, we will! ;) ;) ;)

Sounds like a plan to me.

Oh... are we going there again? :P


Female N Human (Varisian) Oracle 14 | HP: 104/104 | AC 26 (13 Tch, 23 Fl) | CMB: +9, CMD: 22 | F: +11, R: +12, W: +13 | Init: +1 | Perc: +2, SM: +20 | Appearance

Did we ever leave? ;)

Grand Lodge

RETIRED: Saved the Isle of Kortos and now busy creating a very large family with his wives.

Probably not... those undead interruptions are just foreplay right? :)


Female N Human (Varisian) Oracle 14 | HP: 104/104 | AC 26 (13 Tch, 23 Fl) | CMB: +9, CMD: 22 | F: +11, R: +12, W: +13 | Init: +1 | Perc: +2, SM: +20 | Appearance

A good way to get the blood flowing...


Skills:
Acro +7T, Ath +6T, Diplo +9T, Lore(Saren) +10E, Med +12E, Nature +11T, Reli +12E, Surv +11T
Cleric 7 | HP: 77/80 | AC:19 TAC:19 | F:+11 R:+10 W+13 | Perc +12E | SP 3/5 | Reso 8/11 | Speed 25 l Channel 3/5 l Active Conditions:

You people are insane.

Anyways, so we start by barricading room 10?
Ashlion, considering that you don't have reach... we could station you at the window, or we could omit one barricade and just use you as a brick wall. What are the rules for attacking around corners? Like if we put him 5ft beside an open door, could he attack someone standing right in front of the door on the other side?
If we put Roz within reach, her reaction could trigger every round when Ashlion gets hit.

*Takes another gulp of coffee to make the brain scatter even more*

Grand Lodge

RETIRED: Saved the Isle of Kortos and now busy creating a very large family with his wives.

This has something going for it... :D

GORUM ACCEPTS THE CHALLENGE!

Bryn wrote:
You people are insane.

We have 5 games together. You could say that are quite... friendly... intimate even... ;)


Female N Human (Varisian) Oracle 14 | HP: 104/104 | AC 26 (13 Tch, 23 Fl) | CMB: +9, CMD: 22 | F: +11, R: +12, W: +13 | Init: +1 | Perc: +2, SM: +20 | Appearance

Perhaps a bit too intimate...

Grand Lodge

RETIRED: Saved the Isle of Kortos and now busy creating a very large family with his wives.

Stick and stone may break my bones, but whips and chains...


M Human Sorcerer 7 | HP: 71/71 | AC:24 TAC:22 | F:+10 R:+10 W+9* | Perc +8 | SP 6/6 | Reso 11/11 | Speed 15 | Active Conditions:

Sounds good, Brynn. Jaksics can create some difficult terrain when needed to halt their advance.

... and insane? Well, I guess you get used to it eventually ._.


The Gloved Hand I Elisabetta I Kyra I Luciana I Sasha I Violetta

OK, let me know where you're moving to and where you want to build barricades.


The Gloved Hand I Elisabetta I Kyra I Luciana I Sasha I Violetta

I have to confess: I'm not really feeling this. I can't put my finger on why, exactly, but it's not that much fun. I've been a DM for a while now and I've always managed to get something from the games I'm running, but this time...

Just wondering where you guys are at?


Female N Human (Varisian) Oracle 14 | HP: 104/104 | AC 26 (13 Tch, 23 Fl) | CMB: +9, CMD: 22 | F: +11, R: +12, W: +13 | Init: +1 | Perc: +2, SM: +20 | Appearance

Feeling the same. The RP is fun but the playtest is very dry and the rules aren't where they're supposed to be yet. That is the nature of a playtest, though. We'll have to wait for a complete rule system.

I don't mind ending things to focus on other games.


Skills:
Acro +7T, Ath +6T, Diplo +9T, Lore(Saren) +10E, Med +12E, Nature +11T, Reli +12E, Surv +11T
Cleric 7 | HP: 77/80 | AC:19 TAC:19 | F:+11 R:+10 W+13 | Perc +12E | SP 3/5 | Reso 8/11 | Speed 25 l Channel 3/5 l Active Conditions:

I'm disappointed and irritated, but if you aren't having fun, I won't stop you from leaving. An unhappy DM does not make for a good game.
I hope you don't give up on your Kingmaker game. You've ditched the last game I was a part of, and likely this one too, but your Kingmaker PCs don't deserve that kind of treatment. They are the best players a DM could ever ask for.


The Gloved Hand I Elisabetta I Kyra I Luciana I Sasha I Violetta

I'm definitely not ditching the Kingmaker game! I take DMing seriously, which is why I dropped the game I was PC in to focus on DMing.

My issue is with the playtest - not sure whether it's the rules, the AP or what but it isn't working for me.

I like this group and if I decide not to proceed with the playtest I'll definitely be setting up another campaign to run if you guys are interested. Not sure what yet - I hear good things about the Ruins of Azlant and the Strange Aeons APs, but if anyone has a favourite or one they want to try then by all means say so.


M Human Sorcerer 7 | HP: 71/71 | AC:24 TAC:22 | F:+10 R:+10 W+9* | Perc +8 | SP 6/6 | Reso 11/11 | Speed 15 | Active Conditions:

You can't fight the tide. My two cents on the matter is that the playtest adventures are representative of early Paizo PFS adventures: railroaded and generic to the point they are no longer palatable. Add in the clunky mechanics and tada, you get a somewhat jarring game.

For me, the banter and roleplay made it an enjoyable experience, but as it stands, I'd never opt for PF 2.0 or any of the playtest adventures when given a choice :)


The Gloved Hand I Elisabetta I Kyra I Luciana I Sasha I Violetta

Thankfully, banter and roleplay are available in PF1 :)

Or Starfinder, for that matter


Female N Human (Varisian) Oracle 14 | HP: 104/104 | AC 26 (13 Tch, 23 Fl) | CMB: +9, CMD: 22 | F: +11, R: +12, W: +13 | Init: +1 | Perc: +2, SM: +20 | Appearance

I would be up for another game with this group. Currently running 3 Ruins of Azlant games, so another AP would be my preference. I could do Starfinder too.


3?! There's absolutely no way I could run more than one kingmaker game - I take my hat off to you.

I may have to go and buy a new hat just for the occasion.


Female N Human (Varisian) Oracle 14 | HP: 104/104 | AC 26 (13 Tch, 23 Fl) | CMB: +9, CMD: 22 | F: +11, R: +12, W: +13 | Init: +1 | Perc: +2, SM: +20 | Appearance

3 Azlant, 2 War for the Crown, 2 Ironfang Invasion, 1 Iron Gods, 1 Return of the Runelords...

I may be slightly insane.


Skills:
Acro +7T, Ath +6T, Diplo +9T, Lore(Saren) +10E, Med +12E, Nature +11T, Reli +12E, Surv +11T
Cleric 7 | HP: 77/80 | AC:19 TAC:19 | F:+11 R:+10 W+13 | Perc +12E | SP 3/5 | Reso 8/11 | Speed 25 l Channel 3/5 l Active Conditions:

Is d&d your full-time job, Roz?
I'm running a Hell's Rebels, and a Rise of the Runelords. I play in 2 Strange Aeons games, a War for the Crown, and a Falcon's Hollow game.

I'm willing to play in a new game. Pick anything that you enjoy most. I've never played Starfinder before, but I'm willing to learn it.


M Human Sorcerer 7 | HP: 71/71 | AC:24 TAC:22 | F:+10 R:+10 W+9* | Perc +8 | SP 6/6 | Reso 11/11 | Speed 15 | Active Conditions:

I don't think Starfinder is the system for me. As for APs, I'm down with anything that isn't Kingmaker or Hell's Rebels.

It's that my current mobile phone is a piece of excrement or else I'd be more open to DMing a game on here. The thought of having to do anything but writing small posts on it gives me anxiety attacks. Maybe later in 2019, when I get a new one, I'll look into setting up a house-ruled PF game in and around Zhentil Keep. Skulduggery, intrigue and internal (or should I say, infernal?) politics: it's fun for everyone!

Honestly, who hasn't dreamed of playing a bastardly wizard or scheming priest of Bane before?


Female N Human (Varisian) Oracle 14 | HP: 104/104 | AC 26 (13 Tch, 23 Fl) | CMB: +9, CMD: 22 | F: +11, R: +12, W: +13 | Init: +1 | Perc: +2, SM: +20 | Appearance

Nah, just have a lot of downtime at work.


The Gloved Hand I Elisabetta I Kyra I Luciana I Sasha I Violetta

Roz - not insane, just dedicated (or as Sheldon says in Big Bang Theory "I'm not crazy! My mother had me tested")

Jaks - sounds... intriguing. I look forward to hearing more.

Thinking of either Carrion Crown or Strange Aeons. Let me know if you have a preference!

Grand Lodge

RETIRED: Saved the Isle of Kortos and now busy creating a very large family with his wives.
Rozalia Tilescu wrote:

3 Azlant, 2 War for the Crown, 2 Ironfang Invasion, 1 Iron Gods, 1 Return of the Runelords...

I may be slightly insane.

I play in three of those and he's in one of mine, hence the comments about knowing each other quite well...

I too enjoy the group so playing something else would be good. Not keen on Starfinder but aside from KM I'll play any AP.

Maybe Mummies Mask? I've built Imhotep from The Mummy and I'd love someone to play Anck-su-Namun with him. (Although I'm going for the current recruitment, as is Brainiac so that might not work out...)

Otherwise... Strange Aeons could be fun. I've always wanted to play an android in that, lots of 'Uncanny Valley' creep potential there! I'm down with most things, just between what Brainiac runs and I play there isn't much left!


Skills:
Acro +7T, Ath +6T, Diplo +9T, Lore(Saren) +10E, Med +12E, Nature +11T, Reli +12E, Surv +11T
Cleric 7 | HP: 77/80 | AC:19 TAC:19 | F:+11 R:+10 W+13 | Perc +12E | SP 3/5 | Reso 8/11 | Speed 25 l Channel 3/5 l Active Conditions:

I'd vote Carrion Crown. I'm already in 2 Strange Aeons games
Never played Mummies Mask either


The Gloved Hand I Elisabetta I Kyra I Luciana I Sasha I Violetta

Oh, sorry Brynn - you did say that earlier and I completely missed it. Not doing well today in the old reading comprehension.

Hadn't thought of Mummies mask but am open to the idea.


Female N Human (Varisian) Oracle 14 | HP: 104/104 | AC 26 (13 Tch, 23 Fl) | CMB: +9, CMD: 22 | F: +11, R: +12, W: +13 | Init: +1 | Perc: +2, SM: +20 | Appearance

I would go for Mummy's Mask. One of the few APs I haven't run or played in. I have a catfolk rogue I submitted for the other recruitment, but I'm willing to withdraw from that one if you are going to run it. I could also be the Anck-Su-Namun for Nik's Imhotep.

I've run Carrion Crown a couple times.


M Human Sorcerer 7 | HP: 71/71 | AC:24 TAC:22 | F:+10 R:+10 W+9* | Perc +8 | SP 6/6 | Reso 11/11 | Speed 15 | Active Conditions:

I'm down with Mummy's Mask. No idea what Strange Aeons is about, but I guess it's all about that Lovecraft. Aside from Hell's Rebels and KM, I'm down with anything :)


The Gloved Hand I Elisabetta I Kyra I Luciana I Sasha I Violetta

Ok, let's go with Mummy's Mask. I've never run it, so it'll be a new experience for all of us.

Roz: I prefer non-exotic races, but if you're absolutely set on a catfolk then give me a superlative backstory and I'll consider it :)

I'll set up a proper campaign and discussion thread and mark this as inactive in due course.

Playtest closed - apologies to Paizo for not finishing it, but it just wasn't fun.

(apologies also to Brynn, for freaking you out - I should have expressed it better that I was fedup with the playtest, not with being a DM)


Skills:
Acro +7T, Ath +6T, Diplo +9T, Lore(Saren) +10E, Med +12E, Nature +11T, Reli +12E, Surv +11T
Cleric 7 | HP: 77/80 | AC:19 TAC:19 | F:+11 R:+10 W+13 | Perc +12E | SP 3/5 | Reso 8/11 | Speed 25 l Channel 3/5 l Active Conditions:

I understand. I hope you can get excited for Mummy's Mask.

I have a character in mind, but I must ask: Is everyone okay if I were to play an over-the-top pompous British flop? He was a favourite once upon a time, but I don't want to offend anyone.


M Human Sorcerer 7 | HP: 71/71 | AC:24 TAC:22 | F:+10 R:+10 W+9* | Perc +8 | SP 6/6 | Reso 11/11 | Speed 15 | Active Conditions:

... I had a vainglorious French-Taldorian wizard or bard in mind xD


Female N Human (Varisian) Oracle 14 | HP: 104/104 | AC 26 (13 Tch, 23 Fl) | CMB: +9, CMD: 22 | F: +11, R: +12, W: +13 | Init: +1 | Perc: +2, SM: +20 | Appearance

Fop till you drop, baby! ;)


Skills:
Acro +7T, Ath +6T, Diplo +9T, Lore(Saren) +10E, Med +12E, Nature +11T, Reli +12E, Surv +11T
Cleric 7 | HP: 77/80 | AC:19 TAC:19 | F:+11 R:+10 W+13 | Perc +12E | SP 3/5 | Reso 8/11 | Speed 25 l Channel 3/5 l Active Conditions:

Oooo we had the same idea except where they're from

Grand Lodge

RETIRED: Saved the Isle of Kortos and now busy creating a very large family with his wives.

So we're looking at Imhotep, Anck-su-Namun, Edmund Blackadder and the frenchman from the Holy Grail?

This could be amusing... :D

Don't feel like you have to be Anck Roz, it's just something fun I'd like to do with Imhotep. I'd also play it more straight, but my MM character for that is moonlighting in the Ruby Pheonix Tournament right now.

@Wastrel: if you want normal races I guess a Ghoran is out? I like them for the 'Seed' ability and having all knowledges, both of which are very fluffy for Imhotep (if the seed is a scarab that burrows into the sand...) but at 19RP I assume they count as too powerful. :)

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