
icehawk333 |

icehawk333 wrote:do you still get a srt- to attacks if you use a short bow?Point blank shot is the prequisite for...
Precise shot? Let me check.
Edit-
Yep, precise shot for the removal of the penalty.
Yep.
But, if you pay extra, and have a good STR score, you can gain the STR to damage.
That's why bows are good... For not kobolds.
A light crossbow isn't a bad choice. Heck, I gave my character one, just in case she needs a non-magic option.

Rigor Rictus |

Shortbow
A shortbow is made up of one piece of wood, about 3 feet in length.Description: You need two hands to use a bow, regardless of its size. You can use a shortbow while mounted. If you have a penalty for low Strength, apply it to damage rolls when you use a shortbow. If you have a bonus for high Strength, you can apply it to damage rolls when you use a composite shortbow (see below), but not a regular shortbow.
Eastern Version: Hankyu This shorter bow is similar to the diakyu in form and construction and is equivalent to a shortbow.
Yup
Edit: This ninja was 18 seconds to slow...

Riuk |

Riuk wrote:icehawk333 wrote:do you still get a srt- to attacks if you use a short bow?Point blank shot is the prequisite for...
Precise shot? Let me check.
Edit-
Yep, precise shot for the removal of the penalty.Yep.
But, if you pay extra, and have a good STR score, you can gain the STR to damage.
That's why bows are good... For not kobolds.
A light crossbow isn't a bad choice. Heck, I gave my character one, just in case she needs a non-magic option.
ya its because im going for a range build
since ill be getting a lot of teamwork feats for free i think ill change my feat for PPS that because of inquisitor ill get bonuses as if every one has the feats ^_^
zomblisham |

Also how would you feel about adding the scale boneses from classic monsters revisited? And not to be a bother but this feat is very vague. What is your take on this
small but deadly

icehawk333 |

Complete/Partially Complete with stats:
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Captain Ford - Skalezaar "Skales", Barbarian/Fighter
Mourge - Myzaira, The Deft Dragon, Swashbuckler(Mouser)/Summoner
Sarpadian - Krizalk, Sorcerer (Tattooed)/Rogue
Ruik - Xildhal, Inquisitor/Hunter (Sacred Hunter/Primal Companion)
Icehawk - Aardiac, Bard(Dragon Herald)/Oracle (Dark Tapestry)
Jelani - Gunnarrex, Bloodrager(Steelblood)/Fighter
MiniGM's rouge/sorcerer
Curstypeanut- drazaak, trapper ranger / grenadier alchemist
Trawet- lasta Wouj, paladin/ranger (Devine trickster)

Riuk |

Complete/Partially Complete with stats:
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Captain Ford - Skalezaar "Skales", Barbarian/Fighter
Mourge - Myzaira, The Deft Dragon, Swashbuckler(Mouser)/Summoner
Sarpadian - Krizalk, Sorcerer (Tattooed)/Rogue
Ruik - Xildhal, Inquisitor/Hunter (Sacred Hunter/Primal Companion)
Icehawk - Aardiac, Bard(Dragon Herald)/Oracle (Dark Tapestry)
Jelani - Gunnarrex, Bloodrager(Steelblood)/Fighter
MiniGM's rouge/sorcerer
Curstypeanut- drazaak, trapper ranger / grenadier alchemist
Trawet- lasta Wouj, paladin/ranger (Devine trickster)
you know looking at the builds so far im loving how there is a lot of variation between everyone this is why i enjoy gestalt so much ^_^
really hope i get in this game>>>crossed fingers<<<
Skalezaar "Skales" |

I am so freaking stoked on this guys. I have been wanting to play a kobolds for sooooo long. Anyways, how do you feel about noxious bite monster feat? Because I'm thinking of playing as a natural attacker via barbarian or something of that nature.
I would take it, along with anything else you can snag, and BITE EVERYTHING! Which is what I plan to do - there is no such thing as cheesing when playing a kobold. Only leveling the playing field. Between Dragonmaw and a tail attachment, he should be a pain in the butt.
Also, hilarious, because the idea of leaping onto a demon's face and biting it to make it sick is twisted and awesome.

icehawk333 |

icehawk333 wrote:i did not know that niceLong lash is the best attachment, IMO.
It gives you AOO reach, while still giving you everything else about normal melee.
This AOO can be used to trip a charging opponent, right before they can actually hit you.
Well, you are small, and actually have to be able to pass the trip check.

Riuk |

Riuk wrote:Well, you are small, and actually have to be able to pass the trip check.icehawk333 wrote:i did not know that niceLong lash is the best attachment, IMO.
It gives you AOO reach, while still giving you everything else about normal melee.
This AOO can be used to trip a charging opponent, right before they can actually hit you.
still the chance for it seems worth it. the worst that would happen is you fail ans might get hit anyway

icehawk333 |

icehawk333 wrote:still the chance for it seems worth it. the worst that would happen is you fail ans might get hit anywayRiuk wrote:Well, you are small, and actually have to be able to pass the trip check.icehawk333 wrote:i did not know that niceLong lash is the best attachment, IMO.
It gives you AOO reach, while still giving you everything else about normal melee.
This AOO can be used to trip a charging opponent, right before they can actually hit you.
Yep.
Or you could just use the AOO to hit them.Your choice, really.

GM Mackenzie |

Looks like we might be at 10 completed submissions already, I'll go ahead and take a look to confirm that there's that many with full stats and background after a late lunch. In the meantime, here's some answers to tide you all over while I'm nomming delicious foods:
Riuk - Yes, animal companion archetypes from the Animal Archive are certainly okay. I even happen to own that little splatbook. And yeah, the fact that crossbows don't take a penalty to damage from low strength is one of the reasons why even elven casters who could use a bow often choose a crossbow instead: Str is one of the prime dump stats for casters. Considering that kobolds love traps and have a strength penalty, crossbows seem a good match to them. (Much like how spears and pikes should be iconic to dwarves rather than hammers and axes. They hang out in tunnels, where you can't really swing a weapon like a hammer or axe properly, love fighting giants with reach, against whom reach weapons mean not taking AoOs, and they have a bonus to Con rather than Str.)
icehawk333 - Thanks for helping answer questions while I was at work!
Tazo - While it's outside of the rules for character creation, I'm generally a little bit more lenient about letting players craft items of their own, especially if it's an item from an official Paizo source. So, while you wouldn't be finding such a weapon as loot and couldn't likely find it for sale even in Kenabres, if there was enough downtime (and there will be, in between each book) and you had the necessary feats, that would be permitted for crafting. As icehawk333 pointed out, the feat Guided Hand would let you do that with attacks, but since we're going gestalt rather than mythic, Mythic Guided Hand isn't an option to get Wis -> damage.
zomblisham - While normally I wouldn't allow monster feats without a really good reason, this AP actually provides exactly that reason. I hadn't even thought of it, but I'm going to go ahead and rule that as an alternative to taking a kobold racial feat at key ascension points in the story (the first happening at the end of the first book, around level 6) I'll allow taking a dragon-themed monster feat that the character qualifies for. Regarding Small but Deadly, I would go with ruling #1, which is how I would normally interpret the wording.
Vithrian / GM Calvus - You seem to still be missing a favored class bonus unless I missed it.
And lastly, regarding crafting... I will allow that any one (1) item you can craft successfully when taking 10 and which has a base cost of no more than 150 gp (your entire starting wealth) can be considered crafted by you and thus costs only half as much.
Edit: Also, holy crap this thread has gotten long fast!

GM Mackenzie |

yep i look like a mini half dragon ^_^ with my silvery scales, wings and glorious horns
You're a kobold. You ARE a dragon, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. (Unless they're a true dragon, in which case you should probably be cowering in awe before their majestic might and praising Apsu for the honor of being in their presence.)

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Xildhal wrote:yep i look like a mini half dragon ^_^ with my silvery scales, wings and glorious hornsYou're a kobold. You ARE a dragon, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. (Unless they're a true dragon, in which case you should probably be cowering in awe before their majestic might and praising Apsu for the honor of being in their presence.)
you are completely right!!! never again will i refer to my self as one of those sad creatures with only half dragon blood looking at you Aardiac =^_^=

GM Mackenzie |
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For those who don't happen to have a copy of Kobolds of Golarion, the following is the first fact from 'Five Facts About Kobolds':
Fact 1: "Kobolds Are Dragons"
Just ask any kobold—she'll tell you, confidently listing off a number of similarities, such as basic skull shape, tooth structure, horn composition, ear frills, and scale coloration. And, when one considers the uncommon but not entirely rare instances of kobolds with wings and even breath weapons, the parallels are even more unmistakable. These similarities raise the question as to whether kobolds are a lesser, undeveloped version of their dragon kin—or if, in fact, they're a more advanced (albeit less impressive) subspecies, destined to outlive their larger cousins.
And now I am off!

icehawk333 |

For those who don't happen to have a copy of Kobolds of Golarion, the following is the first fact from 'Five Facts About Kobolds':
KoG wrote:And now I am off!Fact 1: "Kobolds Are Dragons"
Just ask any kobold—she'll tell you, confidently listing off a number of similarities, such as basic skull shape, tooth structure, horn composition, ear frills, and scale coloration. And, when one considers the uncommon but not entirely rare instances of kobolds with wings and even breath weapons, the parallels are even more unmistakable. These similarities raise the question as to whether kobolds are a lesser, undeveloped version of their dragon kin—or if, in fact, they're a more advanced (albeit less impressive) subspecies, destined to outlive their larger cousins.
Oh. I know. Ardiac's just a little clueless.
And it was a mostly OOC joke.
Dra'zaak |

And lastly, regarding crafting... I will allow that any one (1) item you can craft successfully when taking 10 and which has a base cost of no more than 150 gp (your entire starting wealth) can be considered crafted by you and thus costs only half as much.
I actually intended on crafting nothing more than numerous small, cheap alchemical items (Considering I'm an Alchemist) - things like Acid, Alchemical Arrows, a few remedies, etc - nothing big, such as a high-strength composite longbow. As an Alchemist (especially one who seeks to be self-sufficient and prepared for any occasion, such as this guy), I was hoping to make the most of his skill early on.
Does that 1-item limit still count for such small consumables? And also, normally crafting items via the Craft Skill is 1/3rd of the base price, is that you meant?
Either way, I'll roll with whatever you rule.
One other question: I took the Lair Snake trait for my campaign trait, which grants me an additional +200 gp starting gold. Is this trait allowed? Its not quite as bad as Rich Parents, but I'd like to make sure you are ok with it :D If not.. I'll figure something out.

Riuk |

For those who don't happen to have a copy of Kobolds of Golarion, the following is the first fact from 'Five Facts About Kobolds':
KoG wrote:And now I am off!Fact 1: "Kobolds Are Dragons"
Just ask any kobold—she'll tell you, confidently listing off a number of similarities, such as basic skull shape, tooth structure, horn composition, ear frills, and scale coloration. And, when one considers the uncommon but not entirely rare instances of kobolds with wings and even breath weapons, the parallels are even more unmistakable. These similarities raise the question as to whether kobolds are a lesser, undeveloped version of their dragon kin—or if, in fact, they're a more advanced (albeit less impressive) subspecies, destined to outlive their larger cousins.
i just got that book im reading it now

MiniGM |

I forgot the full description.
Small and slight, even for a kobold, almost sickly in appearance. He has shiny pink scales, which he keeps scrubbed clean for full shine, though he tends to keep them covered with cloak and gloves, believing it a privelage to see them. He body is free of marks and scars with the exception of his hands which are heavily calloused from tinkering with traps and devices.