What's this Weapon?


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Radiant Oath

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I'm working on creating a character and trying to figure out where a particular weapon falls in terms of rules.

Take a look at the gentleman in the center of this picture, with the bluish shirt and fancy helmet.

Is the weapon he's holding a MACE or a MORNINGSTAR? The size leads me to believe the former, but the spiky nature of it makes me think it might be the latter.

Please help! :S


That's a mace. Morningstar is a mace with a chain attaching the ball to the stick instead of directly.


That is a mace.

Although, Magic, you're incorrect about a morningstar. A morningstar is a spiked mace, the mace with chain linkage is a flail.

Edit: PRD Morningstar "A spiked metal ball affixed to a handle"


Ah.
Apologies.
If I'd only stopped at the answer. XD


The only real difference between them is the haft. Looks like a mace but I would use a Morningstar anyway.


♣♠Magic♦♥ wrote:

Ah.

Apologies.
If I'd only stopped at the answer. XD

No worries. It threw me for my first couple years, since the first time I heard "Morningstar" as a weapon was in Castlevania 2, as a spiked ball on a chain. :P

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♣♠Magic♦♥ wrote:
That's a mace. Morningstar is a mace with a chain attaching the ball to the stick instead of directly.

Not correct per Pathfinder/3.5...a morningstar is a shaft with a spikey round head, a mace is a shaft with a variety of different head styles, usually fluted. A flail is like either but with a head attached to the shaft by a length of chain.

Not accurate historically but that is how it pans out in PRPG and 3.5.


That's a mace, both in PF and historically. Historically, a Morningstar can be a mace or flail with a specific style head at the end of the shaft or chain, styles as a ball with spikes to look like a shining star. In PF, it's just a different weapon - a shaft with a spiked ball.

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Some kind of ball on the end of a stick makes it a mace. Spikes would make it a morning star. A chain would make it a flail. It is possible for a weapon to be all 3. I'd call the guy's weapon in your picture a mace. If I could clearly see that it had spikes instead of knubs, I'd say it was also a morning star.


Historically, the moniker "morningstar" has been used for maces, flails, ball-and-chains, gutentags... anything with a spiked weight. Hence the confusion now.
The gentleman in the picture appears to be carrying a small mace though.

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