I think Perception is generally considered the strongest skill. I'm not certain those are universal applications of the skill based on the description, but its reasonable.
Hopefully it's not death, that would make me unhappy. Plus, we loot all the time so it's kind of hypocritical.
That's okay - we loot from EVIL.
Quick posting update: will likely not have time to post today, time well spent with family, will pick this up tomorrow with your next altruistic encounter.
Giving family priority over something so important as gaming, shame on you. :P
Is the unique house seemingly unscathed by the earthquake?
There are many houses that are unaffected by the earthquake.
Bob- It seems the group needed a nudge in the right direction. We seemed to be happily bypassing a big part of the adventure path. :)
I am as "guilty" as any, knowing the plaque was supposed to lead us somewhere, but unsure where or how.
Bob- I am afraid I may be missing something. This Finnigan guy wants us to get him an artifact, which this Kelpa guy legitimately owns, so Finningan can pretend to be a real seer when he is not, or isn't any more.
And he has just offered us an unspecified number of coins, not saying if its to cover expenses or to pay us. And with this we are supposed to get him an artifact.
My initial reaction is something like "shove it you fraudster."
I decided to raise it here rather than in game, cos I don't want to de-rail things and might be missing something.
It may be other players are a bit slow to respond cos they don't know how to respond. I certainly took a while thinking about it.
Kazushi you should ask him his plan.
Also, he is desiring the Crystal Ball so he can get glimpses of the future and accurately make his predictions, albeit by using magic instead of psionics. Nothing he asked you to do, yet, is illegal. Just frowned upon. So he is telling you he wants to be less of a 'fraudster'.
As always, your adventure. No need to accept every 'quest' that is put before you.
Hope that helps.
Sorry I haven't posted much or sooner. Been rather busy with some other things taking up my time!
Seems to me that less than 17gc each is worth a lot less than a seer in our debt with a secret only we know. And for those of you with scruples, its more heroic to do good deeds for free.
I have scruples!
I know right! :)
I have scruples!
I don't see that on your character sheet. Is that in Path of War? :)
I have scruples as well. Christaph also has scruples, but is realistic about the need for finances to be able to get better equipment and thus be more successful in helping others.
Scuples? I got dudded when sharing out treasure and didn't get my share of those. :P
I am definitely not the one to be haggling. I nominate the
Kitsune.
OK. Does anyone have appraise? If we know how much the thing is worth, and how much the thing would be worth were it just crystal, it would make things a lot easier.
Appraise untrained? + 4.
You could try making a roll. I am sure you are better than Kazushi.
Gm, would it be possible for you to post your 'rules' in the campaign tab, then we can easily check them.
As far as the Appraise roll goes (I can't remember if this complies with GM's rules, sorry. Just my thoughts.) just roll it, if someone has better mods they roll too and might get different info. Otherwise we get bogged down in this meta, 'who's going to say/know what' discussion.
GM Bob only wants us to roll dice when he calls for us to do so.
Gm, would it be possible for you to post your 'rules' in the campaign tab, then we can easily check them.
Yes please! Maybe even as a link at the top of the page? I can never remember if Bob wants us to make these rolls or if he wants to make them!
So, no offense to you Bob, I'm going to roll it. If you didn't want me to, then just ignore it & tell us how to proceed please.
Yes! Hopefully I get something from this!
@ All
A few clarifications about my roll procedures ... they are not meant to be punitive at all, but merely to streamline the lag time in a PbP environment. Waiting for people to post Perception Checks in a dungeon crawl would make me toss my laptop out the window and huddle in the corner, crying, rocking back and forth. So when you roll unnecessarily I don't count it against you, I merely chuckle and move along.
I also would like to keep the Campaign Tab for Campaign info only, and the dice roll procedures can be accessed on my GM Profile.
But, I also want to make it easy on you, so I will post it for you. :)
Specifically in Kelpa's shop
Mechanically I will take the best rolls and add in Aid Another. But, you must post In Character. Role play comes before Roll play. So far, anyone who has chosen to interact with Kelpa will be available for the Diplomacy rolls. So far, everyone is available for an Appraise roll.
Questions?
Thank-you for posting those rules and clarifying this!
Now, I can certainly go and make an In Character post for the appraise. Just wondering if you would let me keep the roll I had here since it was so good please?
Just wondering if you would let me keep the roll I had here since it was so good please?
And if you rolled poorly .... LOL
I will keep that roll, primarily because I am the bestest GM there ever was. And humble. Don't forget humble.
Here is some relevant background info from the Player's Guide. If you haven't perused it, you really should. As you will read, kobolds are primarily interested in trade, and as such, a diplomatic mission to Vensnak is not inherently dangerous. I mean it will be because it is a RPG, but it is not an oddity for him to ask you this.
Vensnak
A subterranean kobold city near Arbil, Vensnak supplies raw materials, stonework, and metalwork to Arbil. Although the Protectorate considers the city to be within its control, the kobolds pay no taxes except tariffs on their trade with the city, and the kobolds consider themselves autonomous. This behavior has thus far only been allowed due to a diminishing leniency that the Protectorate grants to the kobold race for past ill treatment.
Kobolds
Subterranean and non-psionic by nature, the kobold race of Ksaren is one of the few intelligent races that seeks to stay largely self-contained. Although they are by no means xenophobic, their racial history of being ostracized by the Ophid Protectorate that surrounds them has resulted in a close-knit environment where few kobolds foster relationships or friendships with the other races. Although technically citizens of the Ophid Protectorate, kobolds are essentially independent of the Protectorate and rarely leave the predominantly kobold cities or villages where they tend to live.
I think I am going to bow out, though I enjoy the character and the interactions I was too late arriving to the party and the pace of the game is more than I can manage. I wish the rest of you godspeed and wonderful times.
It was fun gaming with you Kenax. Take care.
And Bob, Kobolds sound quite different in this world to those in regular Pathfinder, which is probably the cause of some players reactions.
Sorry to see you go Kenax Drop me a PM should you change your mind.
Re Kobolds a bit different but that is what the Players Guide is for. :)
I have NEVER seen a group that just doesn't seem to care about money like this group does! I'm used to players pinching every single little copper they can get! ... 20 Gp divided up, eh, I guess it's not enough to worry about. Go ahead and return it.
I mean, we're running an AP so I'm honestly not too worried about needing a lot of power.
Yeah, I guess I'm just not used to AP's. PBP is still relatively new to me. I've mostly played tabletop campaigns, were you just don't know, so you go for everything!
I usually throw away most of my wealth in really any given game, unless I need a particular item badly.
Squirm, are you cool with giving Kelpa back his 20 GPs?
I usually throw away most of my wealth in really any given game, unless I need a particular item badly.
No, no, no, no. There is ALWAYS better equipment to buy that could end up being the difference between survival or death! Victory or defeat!
I shall now have to tell you all the story of how a 100 Gp magic item, saved my entire party (ESPECIALLY me!)!
We were fighting a Giant Purple Worm. Not going well. Then it happened ... the worm managed to pick me up in it's mouth and was about to swallow me whole.
The DM said I had time for one action. I was wearing a Heward's Handy Haversack. In case you don't know, whatever item you are thinking of is automatically on top & you can retrieve it as a ...move? action I believe it is. So, ...
I told the DM I was pulling out my Feather token of Swan boat! Again, in case you don't know, upon activation this item will turn into a full size boat capable of carrying ... something like 30 men.
So I pulled that out, throwing into the worm's throat as I activated it!
The DM's jaw literally dropped open! He didn't say anything, he just stood up, and started pacing back and forth for about a full minute.
Finally he came back and said he had to allow it. He could find no reason not to. He made a few different rolls and the worm exploded into shreds! I went flying! I took a good bit of falling damage, but survived! He also rolled dice to randomly see where I fell. As it turned out I landed on the Mage's stairway that was hidden by an illusion and we could not find! The Feather Token of Swan Boat that cost 100 Gp saved the day!
So, the lesson is,
I'm fine with returning 20 gp. It's nothing for us. And about not caring for money - it's not like we have item-dependant team.
GM - Ah, my fault for not reading it properly.
The Money
I would give him all 100gc. Not out of altruism or Goodness, my take on this is one of exchange.
Given what we have been told about Psionic seers (including the Overseer) not being able to perceive the future, if Finnegan can use the ball he will be in uniquely powerful position. And owes us big time! Who knows what we can call this in on in the future! I would wager 17gc each on that possibility.
Kobolds
My bad, I was mainly just trying to dance around the request for a reward. Maybe Squirm just hates Kobolds...
Just to confirm is that 200gc for all or for each?
Each
That is what I thought. :(
If we leave Zorotaer with Mopheti he may perish, at least that is the impression I get from the first part of Bob's last in game post.
But to try to interfere we will have to confront the Overseer of the city and his guards and that may well be beyond our power. It is quite a major decision so I wanted to bring it up here before saying anything in game.
So do we accept Mopheti's offer or try to rescue Zorotaer. I am inclined towards accepting the offer out of prudence, but I can certainly see the case against.
And Squirm I like your thinking about Kelpa. Lets give him the 100GP back and leave him very grateful.
Bob- can we put an in game post about giving Kelpa back his savings? It is kinda out of order but... Maybe Squirm should write it as it is his [rather good] idea.
Forgive my ignorance but why is Zoro in danger?
After the prophecy he essentially passed out & whatever you want to do about giving the money back is fine. Let's wait until after talking with Mosephi
Forgive my ignorance but why is Zoro in danger?
I agree with Neils, though I suspect it has something to do with the following:
Kazushi wrote: "This is Zorotaer? I can try to restore him to health if I may Overseer."
Moesphi looks over. "What a generous offer, but we have very skilled healers in Arbil. Your concern is duly noted though." with that Moesphi offers a reptilian grin in the guards direction.
Bob, I'm thinking that "reptilian grin in the guards direction" deserves a sense motive check from all of us? But that is one of the rolls you said you would do and ignore unless requested so ... I'm requesting!
You are right Christaph.
The words and behavior of Moesphi seemed to portend a short life for Zorotaer.
Could be just a misunderstanding. Im always up for a fight though, so however that shakes out.
Forgive my ignorance but why is Zoro in danger?
With the final enigmatic statement, Zorotaer collapses as a rag doll tossed aside, and though people rush to help him, all eyes are on you; prophesized to save a city of prophecy
Bob, I'm thinking that "reptilian grin in the guards direction" deserves a sense motive check from all of us? But that is one of the rolls you said you would do and ignore unless requested so ... I'm requesting!
::rolls off screen::
You believe Mosephi is telling the truth.
Forgive my ignorance but why is Zoro in danger?I agree with Neils, though I suspect it has something to do with the following:
Kazushi wrote: "This is Zorotaer? I can try to restore him to health if I may Overseer."Moesphi looks over. "What a generous offer, but we have very skilled healers in Arbil. Your concern is duly noted though." with that Moesphi offers a reptilian grin in the guards direction.Bob, I'm thinking that "reptilian grin in the guards direction" deserves a sense motive check from all of us? But that is one of the rolls you said you would do and ignore unless requested so ... I'm requesting!
Bob, I'm sorry. I'm a bit confused here. You came back to this with a reply that said:
::rolls off screen::
You believe Mosephi is telling the truth.
So ... are you saying you didn't roll the sense motive in the PBP system? and ... I was trying to get a sense motive on what he meant by that grin really ...
Are you saying we believe he is telling the truth that they have skilled healers?Or that he noted our concern?
Or do we believe they will take care of healing Zorotaer?
I hope I'm not too demanding, but I would like some clarification please? I'm also wondering, why are there no rolls in the system? If you don't want us to see the numbers so that we don't meta-game about our results, or something like that, that's ok I guess, but at least please tell me that's what's going on, or something please?
Re: Rolling offscreen
Bob, I'm sorry. I'm a bit confused here. You came back to this with a reply that said:
::rolls off screen:: You believe Mosephi is telling the truth.So ... are you saying you didn't roll the sense motive in the PBP system?
Correct. That happens all the time for precisely this reason:
If you don't want us to see the numbers so that we don't meta-game
Are you saying we believe he is telling the truth that they have skilled healers?
Yes
Or that he noted our concern?
Yes
Or do we believe they will take care of healing Zorotaer?
Yes
I hope I'm not too demanding
Nope. It is good to ask for clarification when you are unsure, PbP can get tricky sometimes. Honestly, I thought I answered the question. .
So I just got it wrong when I interpreted Mosephi's words were menacing?
Happens.
Hey Squirm- Are you agreeable to going to the Kobold city?