Third Dawn: Uncertain Futures (Inactive)

Game Master TheBobJones

Feel free to discuss

PLease make sure to use the link on my alias or the campaign tab to update your Stats.

The Campaign Tab is updated with some background on Abril and some major NPCs if you didn't read the Player's Guide.

How are we resolving the differences between the two opened mind campaigns?

We aren't. Pretend you did them together. Except for the ending there are only minor differences.

For Table A:
Zerathi pick - 554 gp
Zerathi chisel - 552 gp

I've updated the languages on Christaph's character sheet. They are currently: Common, Draconic, Ignan, Goblin, & Undercommon.

May I suggest all players share what languages they know? Then I might change them if Bob allows so that we can have more communications covered if necessary.

Jim, the Psicrystal can understand any language that I do, but can only speak in common.

Do whatever you all want for languages.

I have common and draconic

So, table A let's decide what we do with the loot.

I know Common and Dwarven.

I switched Draconic for Elven. Any others?

Aidan- some details of the loot calculations you did. Won't interest anyone else so-

Kazushi - Nope, you're right. I don't need to buy anything yet, so I'll just add 2,062.5 gp to my finances and hoard money for some time.
Also, no issues with selling the goblet. Don't think we need it.

As a GM, I tend not to do too much with loot so everyone's contributions are very much appreciated.

Please make sure to get all your purchases in, buy your new gear, update taglines and dice rolls.

Planning on starting sometime this week.

All done with Kazushi Bob.

Aidan- I made one mistake, well sort of.

When I took the Boots of Stomping, I should have taken half its purchase value [= what the party could sell it for] off the cash I got. So 300 not 600 gp. This does not affect the gold you or the other PCs get, it was how it was calculated, I just wrote the wrong thing in my last post.

Now that we are a combined party group I guess we need to make sure we agree on how to handle loot in the future before it becomes an issue. I find it best to decide ahead of time, before there is one item that multiple people want.

I've generally played it that when there is an item that somebody wants (such as the boots of stomping), as long as they are going to be used for the good of the party, then whomever the party agrees to can have them without it counting as a part of their loot.

In this instance, from the Table B group, the other two did not want to take any of Horrick Duarran's stuff, but I felt I did not want him to use it to rise to power again, so I took it all. Now, is it my fault if they did not want it? No. Should I get my share of the rest of the loot? Yes. So I got all of Horrick's loot, plus an even share of everything else. I gave plenty of opportunity for the others to speak up & say differently, but Neils said he was fine with it & Squirm never gave a definite response. I got a great deal on that! Was it fair? I believe so. If Neils or Squirm should say they feel it wasn't we can certainly back up & change it.

I guess though that for future reference, it might be easier best if any items taken are calculated as part of one's share of the loot at the price it would have gotten if sold. Any disagreements with this plan? Or other suggestions?

By the way, just so everybody knows, no one knows I'm of the Elan race, everybody just assumes I'm human,though some might start to wonder when they notice I only 'sleep' for 4 hours a night. (In reality I just go into a meditative trance.)

I will play right along, claiming to be human. I don't want anyone to know I'm an Elan. We are a very private, secluded race and would prefer no one knew of our existence. And Bob, just to point out in case it should matter, Elans recognize each other on site, but keep it secret.

On the trail, Christaph spends time in the evenings drawing a map of the road traveled. He keeps his maps up to date every evening & will even have a small map of the mines we were in, in Jace's Stanchion. He has Cartography as a profession.

Christaph Got it - thanks!

Kazushi Make sure to 'dot' the Gameplay thread. Post, then delete it if you don't have an in character post.

Waiting for Kenax and Tio to check in. Not sure if Tio is going to play this leg, some RL work commitments are on the horizon.

Now that we are a combined party group I guess we need to make sure we agree on how to handle loot in the future before it becomes an issue. I find it best to decide ahead of time, before there is one item that multiple people want.

I guess though that for future reference, it might be easier best if any items taken are calculated as part of one's share of the loot at the price it would have gotten if sold. Any disagreements with this plan? Or other suggestions?

I agree it is best to decide on how to distribute items beforehand.

And counting an item as it's sale value when distributing loot is what I suggested in the last campaign. Naturally I think it is a fair way of doing things.

Of course, what if everyone wants an item? Rolling a dice and the best roll gets it has been done face to face.

I agree with dice rolling for multiple people wanting the same item.

So ... now are party has 2 pairs of boots of stomping right? hehehehe (maniacal/malevolent cuckle) Sounds good to me!

I can be kind of picky about the loot I take as table B found out, but I'll make sure to speak up if I ever end up wanting something. I also have the luxury of getting by with less than normal WBL so I don't imagine it'll be a problem.

I'm not that picky about the loot. And as Neils, I can get by with less WBL.

We can just make a list of all the loot we encounter, just assuming we take everything that makes sense (and sometimes that doesn't), than if anyone wants something from it they take it and subtract it's selling value from their share.

Although, Christaph's method is also not bad, I quite like it.

Squirm buys:

Quickrunner's Shirt - 1000gc
Belt of Tumbling - 800gp
Traveler's Anytool - 250gp
Masterwork Rapier - 320gp
3x Potion of CLW - 150gp

And Sells:

Rapier - 10gp

Leaving 708gp for its pocket

That OK?

Looks good

Myth weavers lost a bunch of data somehow, including my character sheet! I'm going to have to re-make it. sucks.

Heard that. I have two games over there and only 1 character sheet.

One of the reasons I do all my sheets by hand.

I think it won't hurt buy a couple of CLW potions. I'll buy two for now. That will be 100 gp.

I think it is more cost efficient to kick together to buy a wand of CLW. That is 750 gp and gives us 50 uses. That is 15 gp each as opposed to 50 for potions.

I don't know how many players we have, but I am sure we can afford it.

I think it is more cost efficient to kick together to buy a wand of CLW. That is 750 gp and gives us 50 uses. That is 15 gp each as opposed to 50 for potions.

I don't know how many players we have, but I am sure we can afford it.

Yes! I forgot about that! MUCH better, but do we have a character who can use the wand? I'll gladly throw in my share of Gp besides the potions I have bought.

Yes, right, a wand! If we have anyone who can use it, that's a much better idea. I'll chip in.

Kazushi [or Miss Kizishi as Squirm calls her] has Use Magic Device at +8, +9 to activate spell completion or spell trigger items for divine spells. Like a wand of CLW, which I think is the best value you will get for 750 gps.

Nice. I'll still buy two potions of CLW just in case, but also chip in for a wand.

Update - sent Kenax and Tio a PM. Giving them 24 hours to respond. Adventure will start shortly thereafter.

Currently there are 5 players. Psion, Sorcerer, 2 Soulknives, and a Dread in a pear tree.

Wand makes sense to me, just don't roll a 1 on a UBD check.

Retry?

Yes, but if you ever roll a natural 1 while attempting to activate an item and you fail, then you can't try to activate that item again for 24 hours.

Quite true.

Simply failed rolls are no problem out of combat. Natural 1's come up 5% of the time. It would be better if we had a divine caster or psionic healer, but Kazushi with wand of CLW will do.

The cost is modest, 150 gps each with 5 players.

I do like the idea of a wand, but if I'm not mistaken having a +8 or +9 to UMD means there is a chance that slightly more than 50% of the time it won't work? Or am I mistaken on that? I still think it's a good idea & still comes out cheaper than potions even if half of them don't work, so yes!

At 3rd level I may take a feat to allow me to heal myself somewhat, though I would have to use some of my PP if I remember right.

Update - sent Kenax and Tio a PM. Giving them 24 hours to respond. Adventure will start shortly thereafter.

My problem with the PM's is that unless you look at the very top of the screen, you don't see them! I wish it would send you an email notification or something like that!

If an inability to 'scroll up' precludes you from playing a PbP game that was forewarned, you might be in the wrong medium. Just saying :)

I will pay for the wand, no worries. I can cover most combat healing for a while, can you succeed the UMD check with take 10 for out of combat? If not, a wand of infernal or celestial healing may be a better investment since it's on the sorc spell list.

I do like the idea of a wand, but if I'm not mistaken having a +8 or +9 to UMD means there is a chance that slightly more than 50% of the time it won't work? Or am I mistaken on that? I still think it's a good idea & still comes out cheaper than potions even if half of them don't work, so yes!

It is 9 for this. So I need to roll 11[+9 = 20]. Success is 50 % likely. But unless I am mistaken, all that occurs if I fail is nothing happens and no charges are used. Out of combat, that is essentially meaningless. A roll of 1 means it can't be used for 24 hours by me. If someone else has UMD of course...

Otherwise we resort to potions and Neils.

Sadly taking 10 gives me a "roll" of 19 when I need 20. :(

We could always go with infernal or celestial healing

I just checked & your not allowed to take 10 on UMD anyways. But hey, if no charges are lost anyways, it may just be a 'wasted' action during combat if it comes to that. Still, DEFINITELY worth it! Good thinking Kazushi!

Healing in combat is usually in emergencies, which is not the best time for having to roll.

I will improve my UMD as we level, esp if we stay w/o a divine caster.

Bob? How would you rule on a wand of celestial or infernal healing? Would that be possible? Infernal healing lasts for 1 minute, whereas Celestial healing is 1 round per 2 levels. Plus the whole anointing of the blood and such ... I'm really curious to see how you want to rule on this.

I can't imagine why it wouldn't be allowed, they're both pretty common as wands in my experience. The only possible problem would be if we ended up using the alignment rules from Horror Adventures, but those rules are dumb so I wouldn't plan on it.

A wand of celestial healing is not very efficient. The duration means a level 1 wand will give you 1hp.

Infernal healing is actually more efficient than CLW. It takes a bit longer. CLW gives you a d8 + 1 hp, average 5.5, straight away. Infernal healing gives you 10 hps spread over a minute.

As we will using it primarily for non combat healing, infernal healing is likely better.

Does anyone else have UMD?

My character sheet from Mythweavers got lost/erased somehow. So I'm in need of remaking it & honestly I do not remember if I had UMD or not.

Christaph What Neils and Kazushi said.

As none of you are alignment dependent read Paladin works for me.

K, I'll mark off the gp. Kazushi can add a wand of whatever to her sheet.

Bob, on the dice roll chart, you have my + 2 from the psicrystal outside of the algorythm, but also seem to have it included in the formula. Are you including it in the formula automatically or is it the formula & then add 2? Just trying to update my stats & re-do the freaking character sheet.

Let us say we have a wand of infernal healing, as it gives nearly twice as many hp per use.

How many Gp do I owe for that please?

ooooooooooooooooohhh, just realized, with no character sheet I don't remember how much money I had left.

Also, would everybody please list their languages so I can choose mine?