I've been dying to play a summoner at this level but in the many games I have been in, it is either very low level or it dies the PbP death as is common.
Thanks for the words and the opportunity. I am loving this game!
Yeah, one of the guys in one of my IRL campaigns tried playing a summoner but he was bored with it. We started at level 1 and I think he saw that things got amazing up around level 6+ but he didn't have the patience. :-) So it's rad to see someone playing a powerful summoner, I'm digging it.
Glad you're liking things so far! The journey is just beginning so buckle up. I'm really looking forward to when the Professor has to dig in to some serious research/dungeon-diving work. It's a ways ahead in the story, but all those scholarly skills are really gonna come to the fore. I mean, I have specific "spotlight" moments written for everybody, but RP'ing heavy-duty research stuff is a special love of mine, for whatever reason. :-D
So the research I have found is this - ranged attacks from a mount have a penalty only if the mount takes a double move (-4) or is running (-8).
A single move or less imposes no penalty from what I can tell.
So the research I have found is this - ranged attacks from a mount have a penalty only if the mount takes a double move (-4) or is running (-8).
A single move or less imposes no penalty from what I can tell.
Aye. And, either way, you crushed the guy, even with his magical protections. :-)
Aye. And, either way, you crushed the guy, even with his magical protections. :-)So the research I have found is this - ranged attacks from a mount have a penalty only if the mount takes a double move (-4) or is running (-8).
A single move or less imposes no penalty from what I can tell.
Just amazed that I learn something new each time I play. ; D
Just amazed that I learn something new each time I play. ; DAye. And, either way, you crushed the guy, even with his magical protections. :-)So the research I have found is this - ranged attacks from a mount have a penalty only if the mount takes a double move (-4) or is running (-8).
A single move or less imposes no penalty from what I can tell.
Oh man, for real, right?! I feel the same. Always some new wrinkle. :-)
Speaking of..I was wondering how Dolo's attacks had such a high + mod. So now I just learned that the Summoner has the same BAB advance table as the Rogue!
Damn that's an awesome class! I had actually originally wanted to play one for this game but you beat me too it Dolo. But now I'm glad to get to watch someone play the class so well. ; )
XP is coming, guys, by the way. I haven't forgotten. I'm just sifting through posts for RP awards. Takes a while. :-)
16 hrs of sleep is nice~
So i'm home and not working anymore, thank the gods! Sorry for slowing things up like that >.<;
Oh man, no worries! It's all good.
Yay sleep! :-)
DM DRA - I was able to edit my last post to include stealth. I wanted to keep it all tight and connected.
Thanks!
P.S. Dolo is feeling a bit lonely :(
LOL yeah, I suppose even Glor is gone! Man, I seem to have a talent for splitting my parties. Sheesh. It's not on purpose, I swear!
LOL yeah, I suppose even Glor is gone! Man, I seem to have a talent for splitting my parties. Sheesh. It's not on purpose, I swear!
I have added a prayer to Iomedae as well, seeking guidance. Read it as the DM's opportunity to have me rejoin the party if you want. ;D
Wow. Dolo may be the shortest lived character in my long history of playing.
Broke the cardinal rule of splitting the party.
Next character will be a follower for sure. ;(
You're luck's not abandoned you yet, sir. :-)
Have faith professor! You will make it through this I know it! >=) Cool professor types don't die they get creative in how they destroy there enemies. I'm sure you got some more spells up your sleeve ;)
Just so I have the Ini right:
21 Bad Guys
19 Syl
14 Damian
12 Bel
10 Min
Just posting this for myself really, trying not to post out of turn lol... Like I did earlier >.<;
Applying for college is an interesting experience so far... Trying to get into the Process Tech classes but sadly have to do 'distance' courses because of my work schedule. Which will be crazy btw! >.<;
Basically when i'm at home I will have normal in class sessions, but when I head off to work for 2 weeks I will take 2 weeks worth of homework/Video Taped classes with me xD.
Has anyone else done something like this? Or am I the only crazy guy here :p
I've never done distance learning, but I have balanced regular Master's classes with regular work hours. It just takes proper time management and organization.
I am taking a distance course right now. In fact, I have taken about 14 distance courses towards my degree.
I love the flexibility of them. To me, it is not much different than PbP. You have threaded discussions and them some additional work like written assignment and such.
I wouldn't do it any other way!
Yeah I have heard the distance courses are a little easier to deal with especially since you don't have to worry about being 'in-class'. Which with my schedule is something I have to avoid. =/
I am very excited to get back into school though, hopefully it will work out well! Organization and Time Management will be my most difficult issues, but I am sure it'll get easier once I am back into the swing of things. Especially since I don't have a choice, I need to get into college so I can move on to a better profession. At least with Process Tech I have more then one route I can take, right now i'm focusing on petroleum processing but I can easily take waste or water management courses later on and get a job closer to home.
DRA I sent you an email...again.
Hmmm so far revamping the dragonrider is interesting and a lot of work, since I have been changing it up quite a bit. XD
Since the spellcasting is so.... weak. I decided to make it better reflect the actual spellcasting of the dragons themselves. Which most of them at age of Ancient cast upto 7th level spells, I am also trying to maintain game balance. The spellcasting will come off the bard spell list since it adds versatility without giving too much in the way of power. It also limits the dragon rider to 6th level spells, so that helps to maintain a full dragon's superiority in their casting ability over a bonded pair. ;)
The bard spell list carries a good mixture of arcane and divine spells, much like the dragons in the bestiary, which I think fits the Dragonrider better then just a straight up wizard/sorcerer spell list. :P I am also looking at creating a totally unique spell list based off the dragons themselves, one that will be broken down between the various colors (Metallic/Chromatic/Primal) But that will take some tweaking. Especially now that they released the Primal dragons... thats been adding more work to what I want to do lol.
Now to help balance things I took the dragonrider's BAB progression and put it on the medium track like a rogue/bard. Because theoretically you have a dragon doing a lot of the fighting for you and having full BAB + Spells + an intelligent (Or even smarter then your own character!) ally to fly you round is pretty powerful. Granted dragonrider won't hit as hard as Cavalier but they were more of a support character and not a front line fighter.
Working on replacing the 'Focus' thing that dragonriders deal with because honestly... it doesn't make any sense. A cavalier doesn't focus with his mount before charging, a summoner doesn't focus with his Eidolin and etc. I understand that some of the dragons are more powerful then others, but the whole point of the class was the dragon wasn't Full Strength it was weaker and didn't have its full array of abilities. I understand that flying is a powerful thing and a game changer but... getting knocked out of the air and falling off a horse are very different and a lot more... painful. Also DRA has proven there are plenty of flying creatures to pit against airborne characters so I don't see much in excuses.
For those of you that have the PDF you'll notice the dragons speeds and such are all out of whack. A silver dragon fly's as fast as a medium characters normal move rate. While a white dragon has stupendous speed but its attacks are weaker, and its breath weapon is almost worthless. But when you compare dragons in the bestiary... they are mostly the same except with differences between the colors and abilities of course. They're claw attacks and bite and speeds are all based off size/age not color. I understand though they needed difference's in the dragons to represent why some had easier Focus then others. Improving the dragons and bringing balance to them is something I am slowly working on because I am trying to understand the original thought process without completely rebuilding it (Which I think I will anyway....). Don't misunderstand though so far the dragons will be like a 1/4 to 1/3rd what a full powered dragon can do, if that! That will include speeds and such, theres no way I would give a dragonrider's dragon the full speed/strength's of a normal dragon. Like I said WIP. ;)
I am also looking at adding in the primal dragons, I could imagine someone riding into battle on a magma dragon.... *Shudders* Scary... o.O;
Now I have an idea to replace focus with something more akin to the relationship between Rider and Dragon. I don't picture a Red Dragon just 'following orders' all the time, no, not at all. Same with a Silver dragon watching you do something heinous, they are just not going to stand there and be mindless side liners. So instead of Focus I was thinking something more akin to intelligent item's Ego. It isn't somthing you will have to deal with every round but it at least gives the DM a little more sway to how your dragon will react to things you do or try and make them do. It also adds some to the roleplay, its something I have been doing between Min and Lin.
My wife has been an excellent springboard for idea's but I thought I would at least post some of what I have come up/thought about doing to see what you guys think. :) I appreciate any idea's you can give me.
Now I am not looking to do a play-test in our current campaign here, I am merely trying to personally improve the class some. I may start my own adventure/campaign to play-test it in though, since I want to try making 'dragon specific' spell lists this will be a must and I won't wreck an established story for that :P.
Forgot to include this earlier, its a sheet I made a little bit ago. We can use it to keep track of what we do and don't have at least. ^^d Sorry I am a busy body today lol xD
DONE with school, stopped with my masters, but have two jobs, and know I would never finish a doc program.......
Hey Min, read through your precis up there, finally. I like the ideas you've put down, so far. The Focus thing has sort of had me scratching my head for a while, too; I get their point in that it's hard to make a dragon do what you want, but it seems there's no allowance for matching alignments and things like that. So, yeah.
If you get things solid and want to play test it here, let me know, we'll see if we can work it out.
Thanks DRA! =)
Its going to take some work, but I think when its done it will be a whole new class in a sense. Trying to work out the balance issues though and after that it should all be fairly smooth.
That would be awesome to playtest it though, at least get a little PbP feel and I don't mind sharing what I came up with so that someone else can look it over =).
Yeah I have heard the distance courses are a little easier to deal with especially since you don't have to worry about being 'in-class'. Which with my schedule is something I have to avoid. =/
I am very excited to get back into school though, hopefully it will work out well! Organization and Time Management will be my most difficult issues, but I am sure it'll get easier once I am back into the swing of things. Especially since I don't have a choice, I need to get into college so I can move on to a better profession. At least with Process Tech I have more then one route I can take, right now i'm focusing on petroleum processing but I can easily take waste or water management courses later on and get a job closer to home.
I am taking Occupational Safety and Health. I've been at it for a while (my fault due to procrastination).
I also have 4 kids, a full-time job that includes a lot of travel, am DMing a PbP and playing in half a dozen other ones.
If it weren't for Distance Learning, I would never have the opportunity to get a degree. Love it!
Thanks DRA! =)
Its going to take some work, but I think when its done it will be a whole new class in a sense. Trying to work out the balance issues though and after that it should all be fairly smooth.
That would be awesome to playtest it though, at least get a little PbP feel and I don't mind sharing what I came up with so that someone else can look it over =).
When ever you get all the odds and ends put together let me have a look if that's alright I'm curious how it would come out.
And who knows maybe I can help some.
Hi all. I don't know if I can continue to participate in any games on here, because I'm becoming extremely stressed out right now with everything around me.
I'm having difficulties progressing with my studies, and I need to re-assess my priorities. I will be reposting this in all of my games, since it is accurate and reflects taking responsibility for my action or inaction.
I really want to continue, but it does not look good for me now. I wish you all the best, and will try to return soon - because I'm in need of a stress-release, and I can't give you my best when I'm not at 100%.
Cheers.
Sorry to see you go bud =( hopefully things work out for you in the long run. It would be cool to play with you again~! But good luck in your studies and we will see you on the flip side =)
Like I said in Ronin's thread, Syl, that's a major bummer, but I understand. Also, having gone through the college grind myself I can sympathize to at least some degree. Hope to see you back soon, may get a sub in the meantime.
Take care, good luck!
Now that I have some word on how things are going, expect me back in about two-three weeks. Classes will slow down at least, and my next set seems easy enough.
So, a temporary absence - In your own words, DRA, Syl will do all she can to further the rescue effort, and ensure all she can find are saved. She's willing to sacrifice everything except for Ansrithar to meet this goal.
See you after February!
See ya soon Captain ;) good luck and Kick @$$!!
If the summoner is unconscious, asleep, or killed, his eidolon is immediately banished.
Ruh-roh!
If the summoner is unconscious, asleep, or killed, his eidolon is immediately banished.Ruh-roh!
Damian is right. However, I have a ring of feather fall...!
Seems he wins the argument as well. ;p
D'oh! I completely forgot about that. Amended post coming up!
Don't amend too much! We can just say he is semi-conscious and Glorfindel fades when he totally konks out (after Damian grabs him).
I think it all worked out. I like how it ended up with poor Glor trying to save his friend/master but vanishing before he could do anything, having to depend instead on the guy with whom Dolo was just arguing before he passed out. There's poetry there. :-D
Yet Damian doesn't hesitate for a moment before jumping in to save him. That's the kind of fellow Damian is. In addition, he won't tell Dolo what happened beyond him passing out.
Why do I imagine Dolo sitting up when he wakes up continuing the argument and realizing he is somewhere else?
Yet Damian doesn't hesitate for a moment before jumping in to save him. That's the kind of fellow Damian is. In addition, he won't tell Dolo what happened beyond him passing out.
You sure? It's harder to argue with someone who saved your life. ;D
Well, I leveled Damian up and then later realized that I had done so in the IC thread.
He rolled 4 for hp, gained +1 BAB, put ranks in Ride, Profession (soldier), Diplomacy, and Sense Motive. I also re-did Keythan as a regular animal companion, using the hippogryph they posted on the Paizo blog as a base. It actually doesn't do much other than give Keythan better saves and AC.
Most importantly, I'm giving him Leadership. His base score is 9 (7 from level, 1 from Charisma, 1 from Natural-born Leader trait). I suppose it's up to DRA to decide if he has any other modifiers. For a cohort, it is 7 (because of Keythan).
Word up!
Also, with Syl on hiatus for a bit, I'm gonna be introducing two sort-of subs in the next few days. So don't be surprised if havocxiii and cyraxiii and aliases of same start hanging around here OOC.
Word up!
Also, with Syl on hiatus for a bit, I'm gonna be introducing two sort-of subs in the next few days. So don't be surprised if havocxiii and cyraxiii and aliases of same start hanging around here OOC.
One of them want to be my cohort?
I will level Dolo for another level of Summoner.
Not sure on specifics but will roll for Hit Points:
Woot!
Hero Lab, here I come!
Summary of changes for Dolo:
+1 BAB (CMB,CMD +1)
HP = +10
Level 1 spell = endure elements
Level 3 spells = Evolution Surge + Greater Invisibility
+7 Skills
+1 linguistics (+10)
+1 diplomacy (+17)
+1 spellcraft (+14)
+1 umd (+16)
+1 knowledge:history (+9)
Added: Know:Planes (+8) and Know:Nature (+8)
Feat: Deadly Aim
Language from Linguistics = Auran
SLA = Summon Monster IV
Hit Points for Eidolon =
STR: 13 (+1)
DEX: 22 (+6) 18 + 2 racial + 2 belt
CON: 14 (+2) 16 - 2 racial
INT: 13 (+1)
WIS: 10 (+0) 8 + 2 racial
CHA: 20 (+5) 17 + 1 lvl 4 + 2 headband
Ok will finish up everything through out the day.
Update for Eidolon:
+1 BAB (CMB, CMD +1)
+1 Str/Dex
+2 Natural Armor
+4 skills (perception, disable device, fly), added bluff (+4)
+8 HP
+1 evolution (dropped natural armor, added rend)
Okay, I have a few "level up" questions:
1. Do we get Hero Points when we level? That should give us 8 total if we do get one and we haven't used any, correct?
2. Torn between Black Tentacles and Greater Invisibility. Black Tentacles is what I have on my character sheet for my 3rd level spell now. There are so many good 3rd level spells - fire shield, fire wall, great invis, etc. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
3. DM DRA - any chance I can craft my repeating crossbow to house 6 bolts instead of 5?
Other than that, I am all updated on my character sheet.
Thanks!
Okay, I have a few "level up" questions:
1. Do we get Hero Points when we level? That should give us 8 total if we do get one and we haven't used any, correct?
2. Torn between Black Tentacles and Greater Invisibility. Black Tentacles is what I have on my character sheet for my 3rd level spell now. There are so many good 3rd level spells - fire shield, fire wall, great invis, etc. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
3. DM DRA - any chance I can craft my repeating crossbow to house 6 bolts instead of 5?
1. Yup! Add another one.
2. I'm a big fan of Greater Invisibility, myself.3. Sure, as long as you're someplace where you have sufficient time and materials to do so.
Okay, I have a few "level up" questions:
1. Do we get Hero Points when we level? That should give us 8 total if we do get one and we haven't used any, correct?
2. Torn between Black Tentacles and Greater Invisibility. Black Tentacles is what I have on my character sheet for my 3rd level spell now. There are so many good 3rd level spells - fire shield, fire wall, great invis, etc. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
3. DM DRA - any chance I can craft my repeating crossbow to house 6 bolts instead of 5?
1. Yup! Add another one.
2. I'm a big fan of Greater Invisibility, myself.
3. Sure, as long as you're someplace where you have sufficient time and materials to do so.
I'm a big fan too but Dolo and Glorfindel are a pair. No sense doing greater invis if the other is not similarly spelled. Two 3rd level spells for one combat effect hurts.
Regarding the crafting, how long would you say it would take?