
Min Bein'Meleth Rámalóce |

Dolo Luckbender wrote:Heh. I think I'd rule that would work more like what Syl suggests in that they would appear out of the air. It's like a 20ft. radios, IIRC. So basically that's one you'd cast in front of an opponent and they'd fly into, and a successful grapple on the part of the tentacles would cause them to, uh, cease flying and start plummeting.
I do have a technical question - Can I cast Black Tentacles on an aerial opponent? I don't see why I can't but thought I would throw it out there. Imagine the tentacles coming from the saddle!
Black Tentacles the ultimate tanglefoot bag with a mind of its own! :O

DM Downrightamazed |

What can you tell me about Izmir and its armies? I read the earlier post about its scholarly pursuits.
Does it have a real world analogue for culture?
Not...that I'm aware of.
The four most powerful military centers in The Explored Land are:
The Paladine of Iomedae in Izmir
The Paladine of Abadar in Lesotho
The Mercenaries of Warbane
The Cavaliers of Jaww Sallaq
The Paladine of Izmir are a supremely disciplined fighting force, and are leading the efforts in the war against the Black Dragonflight. Their captain, Korius Merit, is a warrior beyond compare. It is whispered in some circles that he will become a herald of Iomedae when -- IF -- he dies. Because all the men of Izmir believe devoutly in justice, peace, valor, strength, and knowledge, they work to improve their minds as much as their bodies, so spend time in the libraries as well as working on their fighting technique.
N.B. to all: when I say "Paladine" I just mean the plural of paladin. It's a nonsense word, I know, and a silly affectation, but I just enjoy the way "Paladine" sounds. So, I hope it doesn't bug anyone that I use that instead of "paladins." :-p

Sylsalitae Dwinghymnaear |

Nowhere in the actual spell text does it say that. Quoted in a spoiler, so as to not go off-topic.
School conjuration (creation); Level sorcerer/wizard 4, summoner 3
CASTING
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components V, S, M (octopus or squid tentacle)
EFFECT
Range medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)
Area 20-ft.-radius spread
Duration 1 round/level (D)
Saving Throw: none; Spell Resistance: no

DM Downrightamazed |

In the spell description it says it comes out of the floor, and though it does not say it HAS to come out of the floor, I believe that is their intent.
Regardless I'm going to rule it can be used in air 'cos I think it'll be rad and hilarious, but it's going to require more work by the caster. Let's wait and see if someone actually tries it and I'll deal with it from there. :-)
GM GOVERNANCE! *thunderclap*

DM Downrightamazed |

IC Thread is up, time to rock!
Happy gaming everybody! Play nice, and let's tell an awesome story together!

Min Bein'Meleth Rámalóce |

[edit] I had a well written argument for this short lived debate (even though it was already moot at this point) But the DM beat me so moving on XD!
Basically Black Tentacles was there way of giving wizards a beefed up entangle or the creators of the spell watch way too much anime.
Back to working on a Dragonrider Revamp~ Nyarr

DM Downrightamazed |

Urrrg. Background'll be done in 5-10 minutes - hoped to beat the deadline! Paladin of Sarenae (sp? not looking at my book) is fitting in more ways than one.
No worries! I assumed no one would be posting until the morning hours (even the early ones) anyway. :-) The start of the IC thread isn't a deadline so much as an excuse to dovetail the character completion into playing.

DM Downrightamazed |

@Min and @Syl: I just uploaded a new document to the campaign folder, it's a Word doc about what it is to be Tuatha. It's long, but extremely thorough and and a great guide to how Tuathans fit in to The Explored Land. You don't have to have it down before starting play, but you should read it at some point. :-)

DM Downrightamazed |

Re-posting so it's the most recent comment. :-)
IC Thread is up, time to rock!
Happy gaming everybody! Play nice, and let's tell an awesome story together!

Min Bein'Meleth Rámalóce |

Roger that thanks Syl =)
Edit1: Very engrossing read DM I will have to look into The Bonding and what it entails. I will also have to read about the elves again because I AM SURE I missed something lol.

Sir Damian Lamorak |

I'm still working on how his mount would work. If he was 7th level, Leadership would be a good option. Here's what I suggest.
Damian spends a feat to gain access to use a griffon as the cavalier animal companion, similar to Sable Company Marine. The griffon starts out as the normal CR 4 version, then adds hit dice and special abilities per the normal animal companion rules.
That would make its current form like this:
GRIFFON
N Large magical beast
Init +2; Senses darkvision 60 ft., low-light vision, scent; Perception +5
DEFENSE
AC 17, touch 11, flat-footed 15 (+2 Dex, +6 natural, –1 size)
hp 51 (6d10+18)
Fort +7, Ref +6, Will +2
OFFENSE
Speed 30 ft., fly 80 ft. (average)
Melee bite +7 (1d6+3), 2 talons +7 (1d6+3)
Space 10 ft.; Reach 5 ft.
Special Attacks pounce, rake (2 talons +7, 1d4+3)
STATISTICS
Str 16, Dex 15, Con 16, Int 5, Wis 13, Cha 8
Base Atk +4; CMB +7; CMD 19
Feats Flyby Attack, Hover, Wingover
Skills Acrobatics +6, Fly +6, Perception +5; Racial Modifiers +4 Acrobatics, +4 Perception
Languages Common (cannot speak)
Also, I put up his history, appearance, and personality on his character sheet.

Min Bein'Meleth Rámalóce |

I'm going to be taking leadership as well at some point later on. I still need to get a better feeling for the campaign world. Although with all the info thus far its getting more interesting by the minute :D. It will be interesting if a few of us took leadership, its just too bad the Extra Followers feat is 3.5e lol. Nyarr.
Edit1: Hmm... the more I work on this revamp the more I realize i'm in for a lot of work lol...

DM Downrightamazed |

It's a DOCX, so download it, Min.
Also, clarifying what I need to remove/add - when you said medium, did you mean all given advancements? Or just medium size? I'm fine either way, just want to clarify that so there's no issues down the road.
Just medium size, sorry -- I'm justifying the size based on quality of upbringing, which wouldn't necessarily affect other aspects of maturity. Think of a well-off, athletic teen who's really big and fast for his age because of advances in nutrition and personal training imposed from a young age by his parents, but who is still a youngster in every other way. That kind of thing.
Thanks for double-checking!

DM Downrightamazed |

I'm still working on how his mount would work. If he was 7th level, Leadership would be a good option. Here's what I suggest.
Damian spends a feat to gain access to use a griffon as the cavalier animal companion, similar to Sable Company Marine. The griffon starts out as the normal CR 4 version, then adds hit dice and special abilities per the normal animal companion rules.
That would make its current form like this:
** spoiler omitted **Also, I put up his history, appearance, and personality on his character sheet.
Got it all, looks terrific. Love the steed, BTW, and a cavalier of this build is PERFECT for the campaign.

DM Downrightamazed |

Roger that thanks Syl =)
Edit1: Very engrossing read DM I will have to look into The Bonding and what it entails. I will also have to read about the elves again because I AM SURE I missed something lol.
Yeah, that was put together by my other Tuathan PC, currently fighting her way up through the southlands with her two companions. She also put another document together for you guys that I forgot to upload. I don't have FTP access at work so I'll get that up tonight.
Min, one thing you need to decide is if you feel the leylament, meaning you have to return to Haelith once a year. It's an option for you as a PC, and has goods and bads associated with it. If you have it, then full-blood Tuathans will treat you more favorably, but you will have to return yearly, as I say. If you don't have it, then you needn't return, but your interactions with full-blood elves, and especially Tuathans, will not go well.

DM Downrightamazed |

** spoiler omitted **
Didn't even think to mention it 'cos I've been doing things that way so long. Apologies for the confusion, totally my fault!

AdAstraGames |

"You do not know the nature of the artifact you hold", said Barista the Mage.
"But it's naught but a teapot!"
"Nay - watch." The mage, clad in her Apron of Power, did pour coffee grounds and cold river water into the pot, which began to fulminate. A thick head of foam arose from the top, with nary putting the pot near water.
"We shall pour, and read the grounds."
The contents of the pot were poured into mugs, steaming hot, with foam. The coffee was rich scented and thick.
"The fate of the world rests in this pot. For it makes the only brew strong enough to keep the Dark Lord awake. Even now...if you look in the bottom of the pot, you can see His sign - quickly, before the grounds are consumed!"
Belsarious looked at the bottom. He could barely work out the fine script. "Starb..." Barista the mage clamped her hand over his mouth.
"No, you fool! Speak not His Name, lest you draw his coffee-deprived ire. Even now, as we speak, he has sent the Middle Managers out to retrieve this item."
After a pause, she adjusted her spectacles, and fiddled with her Lip Piercing of Sarcasm. "We must keep it out of his hands."
Sorry, couldn't resist.

DM Downrightamazed |

"You do not know the nature of the artifact you hold", said Barista the Mage.
"But it's naught but a teapot!"
"Nay - watch." The mage, clad in her Apron of Power, did pour coffee grounds and cold river water into the pot, which began to fulminate. A thick head of foam arose from the top, with nary putting the pot near water.
"We shall pour, and read the grounds."
The contents of the pot were poured into mugs, steaming hot, with foam. The coffee was rich scented and thick.
"The fate of the world rests in this pot. For it makes the only brew strong enough to keep the Dark Lord awake. Even now...if you look in the bottom of the pot, you can see His sign - quickly, before the grounds are consumed!"
Belsarious looked at the bottom. He could barely work out the fine script. "Starb..." Barista the mage clamped her hand over his mouth.
"No, you fool! Speak not His Name, lest you draw his coffee-deprived ire. Even now, as we speak, he has sent the Middle Managers out to retrieve this item."
After a pause, she adjusted her spectacles, and fiddled with her Lip Piercing of Sarcasm. "We must keep it out of his hands."
Sorry, couldn't resist.
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA! Awesome. I seriously LOL'd. Co-workers are looking at me funny. :-D Ad Astra, please tell me you're also a GM. You have to be.

AdAstraGames |

Ad Astra, please tell me you're also a GM. You have to be.
I design games for a living; this does involve GMing short session runs so that I can test mechanics.
I have too many irons on the fire, pots on the stove, and balls in the air to try and run anything that doesn't begin and end in 3-5 sessions. I focus hard on fast-in character creation because of this.
This is the kind of game that I run:
Complete RPG in four pages. If you find it useful, please feel free to make a donation to the "Keep the game designer in rice and beans" fund. :)

DM Downrightamazed |

DM Downrightamazed wrote:Ad Astra, please tell me you're also a GM. You have to be.I design games for a living; this does involve GMing short session runs so that I can test mechanics.
I have too many irons on the fire, pots on the stove, and balls in the air to try and run anything that doesn't begin and end in 3-5 sessions. I focus hard on fast-in character creation because of this.
This is the kind of game that I run:
Complete RPG in four pages. If you find it useful, please feel free to make a donation to the "Keep the game designer in rice and beans" fund. :)
Ohhhhhh!! That explains a lot. I've heard of Minimus from some of my IRL players and here on the boards, but haven't tried it yet. I will check it out. Very cool!
Mmmmm...yummy beans and rice...

Min Bein'Meleth Rámalóce |

Min Bein'Meleth Rámalóce wrote:Roger that thanks Syl =)
Edit1: Very engrossing read DM I will have to look into The Bonding and what it entails. I will also have to read about the elves again because I AM SURE I missed something lol.
Yeah, that was put together by my other Tuathan PC, currently fighting her way up through the southlands with her two companions. She also put another document together for you guys that I forgot to upload. I don't have FTP access at work so I'll get that up tonight.
Min, one thing you need to decide is if you feel the leylament, meaning you have to return to Haelith once a year. It's an option for you as a PC, and has goods and bads associated with it. If you have it, then full-blood Tuathans will treat you more favorably, but you will have to return yearly, as I say. If you don't have it, then you needn't return, but your interactions with full-blood elves, and especially Tuathans, will not go well.
Min would probably take the Bond as long as it didn't weaken/disrupt his bond with Lindórievórea.
@ Syl I have a question for ya bud, Whats with the high fly skill? I thought you were doing paladin? Or are you doing aerial acrobatics? :D. Just thought i'd ask lol ;)

Min Bein'Meleth Rámalóce |

Didn't mean to pry ^^; I was just curious =) I thought perhaps there was something in the fly skill I missed >:)
Besides that I am just looking around and checking out everyones builds while I work on my little projects ^^; If that bugs anyone let me know and I will cease~

Belsarious II |

Didn't mean to pry ^^; I was just curious =) I thought perhaps there was something in the fly skill I missed >:)
Besides that I am just looking around and checking out everyones builds while I work on my little projects ^^; If that bugs anyone let me know and I will cease~
No worries, I do the same thing just more stealthily....
Plus Just a quick glance and I can forget what I should not know!

Min Bein'Meleth Rámalóce |

Lmao I do my best to forget they exist besides I can't open spoilers on my blackberry :O! So that makes it easy not to look, but when I saw he had this awesome fly skill I was like "What did I miss!?"
It also makes finding the perfect build hard when you have every friggen book in the paizo/pathfinder world taunting you -.-;
I own too much crud...

Dolo Luckbender |

Sylsalitae Dwinghymnaear wrote:I give you permission to read the spoilers above, Min. In fact, I think it's better unspoilered, now that I really think about it - what do you think, DRA?I agree!
I have adjusted my skills to reflect the need for fly vs. ride (which works out in my favor, BTW.
Question - Mounted Combat requires a rank in ride (which I kept) but would the ruling on fly negate/replace the ride skill requirement?

Min Bein'Meleth Rámalóce |

DM Downrightamazed wrote:Sylsalitae Dwinghymnaear wrote:I give you permission to read the spoilers above, Min. In fact, I think it's better unspoilered, now that I really think about it - what do you think, DRA?I agree!I have adjusted my skills to reflect the need for fly vs. ride (which works out in my favor, BTW.
Question - Mounted Combat requires a rank in ride (which I kept) but would the ruling on fly negate/replace the ride skill requirement?
Mounted Combat: Ride check if by land, Fly check if airborne
Yeah I think it would be flexible both ways. I adjusted my skills accordingly thanks for the heads up Syl/DRA =D

Dolo Luckbender |

Dolo Luckbender wrote:DM Downrightamazed wrote:Sylsalitae Dwinghymnaear wrote:I give you permission to read the spoilers above, Min. In fact, I think it's better unspoilered, now that I really think about it - what do you think, DRA?I agree!I have adjusted my skills to reflect the need for fly vs. ride (which works out in my favor, BTW.
Question - Mounted Combat requires a rank in ride (which I kept) but would the ruling on fly negate/replace the ride skill requirement?
Mounted Combat: Ride check if by land, Fly check if airborne
Yeah I think it would be flexible both ways. I adjusted my skills accordingly thanks for the heads up Syl/DRA =D
Thanks Min, that makes perfect sense.

Min Bein'Meleth Rámalóce |

Min Bein'Meleth Rámalóce wrote:
Mounted Combat: Ride check if by land, Fly check if airborneYeah I think it would be flexible both ways. I adjusted my skills accordingly thanks for the heads up Syl/DRA =D
Thanks Min, that makes perfect sense.
Don't thank me yet its still up to DRA lol thats just the logical conclusion I saw ^^;

Min Bein'Meleth Rámalóce |

Min, one thing you need to decide is if you feel the leylament, meaning you have to return to Haelith once a year. It's an option for you as a PC, and has goods and bads associated with it. If you have it, then full-blood Tuathans will treat you more favorably, but you will have to return yearly, as I say. If you don't have it, then you needn't return, but your interactions with full-blood elves, and especially Tuathans, will not go well.
On second thought it would make sense that Min had the Tauthan bond, especially with the gear he has. Will I need to make changes to his appearance or anything? Just thought I'd ask.
Sorry for my him hawing ;)

DM Downrightamazed |

Dolo Luckbender wrote:Don't thank me yet its still up to DRA lol thats just the logical conclusion I saw ^^;Min Bein'Meleth Rámalóce wrote:
Mounted Combat: Ride check if by land, Fly check if airborneYeah I think it would be flexible both ways. I adjusted my skills accordingly thanks for the heads up Syl/DRA =D
Thanks Min, that makes perfect sense.
Nope, you're right! That was my intent. I feel that fly is a more logical skill for controlling a flying mount due to the extra axis involved.

DM Downrightamazed |

@DM DRA - Any chance you are using the Hero Point system from the APG?
HERO POINTS OH CRAP THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME!
EVERYONE!: I do the APG hero point rules, and I'm a big fan of PCs trying to pull ridiculous epic stunts. That doesn't mean they will instantly work, it just means I love it when people try, especially if it involves hero point use. :-D
So! You all got two at 1st level, one every level thereafter, and as such you have 7 hero points to blow.
Be careful, though, I'm stingy giving 'em out... :-p

DM Downrightamazed |

DM Downrightamazed wrote:
Min, one thing you need to decide is if you feel the leylament, meaning you have to return to Haelith once a year. It's an option for you as a PC, and has goods and bads associated with it. If you have it, then full-blood Tuathans will treat you more favorably, but you will have to return yearly, as I say. If you don't have it, then you needn't return, but your interactions with full-blood elves, and especially Tuathans, will not go well.On second thought it would make sense that Min had the Tauthan bond, especially with the gear he has. Will I need to make changes to his appearance or anything? Just thought I'd ask.
Sorry for my him hawing ;)
Nope, no physical changes, it'll just come out in RP.

DM Downrightamazed |

I have my published works on the IC thread.
I thought of another one but thought it too snarky - Spellcraft for Dummies - a guide to dweomercraft for non-spellcasters (in essence, a guide to the Use Magic Device skill).
Any other suggestions for my character's published works are welcome!
Heh. Thank you for leaving out the "Dummies" book. :-) I love the rest of the list, though, and as you've no doubt seen by now, you have a large draconic fan.

Dolo Luckbender |

Dolo Luckbender wrote:Heh. Thank you for leaving out the "Dummies" book. :-) I love the rest of the list, though, and as you've no doubt seen by now, you have a large draconic fan.I have my published works on the IC thread.
I thought of another one but thought it too snarky - Spellcraft for Dummies - a guide to dweomercraft for non-spellcasters (in essence, a guide to the Use Magic Device skill).
Any other suggestions for my character's published works are welcome!
WOW! A GM that reads player's backgrounds AND uses them in-game. How novel!
Seriously, great job so far painting a wonderful, immersive picture of your world. I am super excited about this game.

Dolo Luckbender |

Dolo Luckbender wrote:@DM DRA - Any chance you are using the Hero Point system from the APG?
HERO POINTS OH CRAP THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME!
EVERYONE!: I do the APG hero point rules, and I'm a big fan of PCs trying to pull ridiculous epic stunts. That doesn't mean they will instantly work, it just means I love it when people try, especially if it involves hero point use. :-D
So! You all got two at 1st level, one every level thereafter, and as such you have 7 hero points to blow.
Be careful, though, I'm stingy giving 'em out... :-p
Woo hoo! I love Hero Points. Character sheet updated accordingly!