
Caeldren Shoreman Kaijitsu |

Well, I can't say that I'll enjoy the pace slowing down, but as always RL comes first. Good luck GM :)

Caeldren Shoreman Kaijitsu |

Can someone move Cael into the room next to Ansgar? In on my phone and Google draw doesn't play nice.

Zelinda Petri |

Done like dinner.

Normornigan Pewterson |

Just to be sure, when you say we can act in combat like this, anyone of those you mention can post right away, right?
Or do you want us to wait until the right place in the order? In this case, should I have waited for Quiary had posted?

Caeldren Shoreman Kaijitsu |

Should we level up our charcters now, or when we get back to town?

Normornigan Pewterson |

If your name is in bold you can act, no need to do it in order.
Good, just wanted to check
Defeating the Tentamort just put you at 6019 exp. You're at level 4 now.
Wuhuu! :-) Does this mean we are using the fast exp track?
Should we level up our charcters now, or when we get back to town?
Very good question! :-)

Normornigan Pewterson |

You can level up right away.
Cool. You want some kind of update summary or should we just update it in here?

Caeldren Shoreman Kaijitsu |

Does anyone have a problem with Cael taking the horse (provided he isn't taken by an owner) I'm picking skills and would like to put a rank into ride if I can have the horse.
Also, I am choosing a rage power this level, and that rage power ANYONE can use if they accept my raging song (for which there are no penalties thanks to being an urban skald). My plan originally was to pick up lesser spirit totem (everyone gets a wisp that makes an attack each round and uses cha as bonus to hit) but if there's any particular rage power that someone want's now is the time to let me know.

Quiary Squintz |

The Horse can be yours for sure, Quiary I am still looking at magical items and such that he needs/wants

Caeldren Shoreman Kaijitsu |

Norm, do you have a particular focus or theme for your spell choices, or is are you taking a more generalist approach? I would like to coordinate our spell choices a bit if we can. Cael's currently more support focused as he doesn't have the cha to get DCs to a reliable level.
I've updated Cael's cantrips, (I have a lot because of the human FCB) but I still need to pick another first level spell.

Normornigan Pewterson |

No problem for me if you want the horse. I'll put it in the loot sheet and mark it for you.
No real focus on the spells, except what can aid Cliff and the party. I'll probably take spell focus transmutation and down the road, craft magical tattoos.
Anything that utilize cha is great for me. Or enhances/uses Cliffs dex or help his natural attacks. (don't know much about rage powers)

Zelinda Petri |

Needless to say, I don't need another horse. ;)
Zelinda can even make introductions with Daviren Hosk at the Goblin Squash Stables.
As for Rage powers, I really don't know enough about them to have much input. Never really got into Skald, or even Barbarian too much. I'm cool with whatever best helps the party out, whether it helps Zelinda directly or not.
On a loot-centered note... Zelinda may lay claim to the dress that was found, as long as it doesn't hamper the group, cash-wise. She may balk at being called a lady, but that doesn't mean she's against dressing up, should the opportunity arise.

Caeldren Shoreman Kaijitsu |

OK so here are the spells I'm deciding between:
Saving Finale - This is a great spell for boss fights, but since I'm a swashbuckler and parrying uses my immediate action there may be rounds where I want to stop performing, but can't because I was busy parrying.
Silent Image - This is a very versatile spell, but Cael doesn't have a high cha. GM how do you handle saving against illusions? There's a lot of table variance.
Vanish - Short duration invisibility, good for some things, but the duration means it's not really for scouting.
And here's the rage powers I'm between:
Lesser spirit totem - wisp attack an adjacent ally using your BAB+cha. Deals 1d4+cha negative energy damage. Everyone get's an extra albeit week attack per round to an adjacent enemy. I think you can see why this one is pretty good.
Superstition - Bonus to save vs spells, but you must attempt to save even against friendly spells. However, since you can chose to not except the song (except if you're unconscious, you automatically accept then) you can effectively turn this on and off with is nice.
Quick Reflexes - Get an additional AoO every round and it stacks with combat reflexes. It's like combat reflexes light.
Guarded Life - Turns lethal damage into nonlethal and you automatically stabilize. Because you automatically accept raging song if you're unconscious you accept this if you are down and auto stabilize. This means as long as you can hear me and you're not dead I can keep you from dying by singing, pretty cool.
So everyone thoughts?

Normornigan Pewterson |

I've taken invisibility and can cast it 4 times, so vanish is probably not so usefull, even though I can't cove the whole party.
Superstition I would not use personally. I use a lot of spells on Cliff.
The Lesser spirit totem sounds interesting, as Norm has a high cha, but he shouldn't be in the front line...at all! But an extra attack is always nice, even for a small amount of damage.

Zelinda Petri |

Superstition is probably the least useful one in the list. The rest of them all look decent, if somewhat circumstantial. The 'most' useful one would probably be Guarded Life, but I can see the odd issue with it, too.
As far as the spells go, I don't personally have any preference. Maybe make it a character development choice, rather than statistical.

Ansgar Ercanbald |

I'm travelling tomorrow, and since its warmed up to -14C I'm hiking on Sunday Yay Canada!. I'll level up on Monday during the day since its a stat holiday.
@Cael - I'd take either silent image or vanish. Vanish is nice for getting a key flanking position sometimes I've found. And honestly, I love the entire spirit totem line. It's such a great flavour for the character either as the Barbarian who has his ancestral spirits aid him in battle, or as the Skald that calls the souls of his vanquished foes to fight for his allies or about a dozen other variations.

Zelinda Petri |

I'm travelling tomorrow, and since its warmed up to -14C I'm hiking on Sunday Yay Canada!.
Right? Damn near tropical! :D

Zelinda Petri |

So I leveled up to a lvl 3 Fighter. Specifically so that I can get my Active Defense. Will probably dip into Alchemist next level, but we'll see how things go.

Quiary Squintz |

Ya I am in Canada as well and it is about -10 where I am.
Vanish would be good for Quiary since it will allow me to get more Sneak attack damage in. The Raging songs that are melee focused won't help me much but it is about the party not an individual.
I like Guarded life since if I am far away but can still hear you it will keep me alive long enough for someone to get to me if/when bad stuff happens.

Quiary Squintz |

Ok so level 4 Slayer.
Took Ranger combat style: Rapid Shot
+1 to many skills, no new skills.
+2 to locate traps and Track.
Ability Point went to Agility making it 18, so to hit went to +9

Caeldren Shoreman Kaijitsu |

Ok, so I think I'll go with guarded life as my rage power and silent image for my spell.
Guarded life because it should be less book keeping that the spirit totem and is a really nice save people's lives power.
Silent image because Norm's taking invisibility and silent image should be more flexible. For instance I should be able to provide quiary concelment to allow a sneak attack by creating the illusion of very think fog. Party know this is a illusion so autosaves, enemies have to spend an action to interact and by then quiary's already gotten at least 1 attack in which is as much as vanish would to. Plus all the other things you can do with illusions.

Caeldren Shoreman Kaijitsu |

We're just waiting for Norm now right?

Caeldren Shoreman Kaijitsu |

Ok Gm, how do you want us to handle adjusting all of the stuff effected by my raging song? It effects a lot so I'm not sure we want everyone adjusting their stsus lines every time I start singing. Is there a shortlist of things we should adjust or just put it into our status as a condition? The one thing I am concerned about is AC. For some the increase in dex may not increase AC as they are armor limited. This is the case for Cael. For most I don't think that is true however.

GM Wilken |

All I need is for you to say "Hey, my raging song is active and is buffing Str/Dex/Con". I'll then assume everyone accepts the song unless they say "Nah I don't want free stats" in their posts. No need to change statlines or anything like that. I've been GMing Pathfinder with pen and paper for a good while so I'm used to tracking conditions and status effects and buffs.

Caeldren Shoreman Kaijitsu |

Sweet, just wanted to ask, everyone does it a bit differently.

Normornigan Pewterson |

Okay, I was getting confused with who did what when during combat, so just to make it clear to me, I made this overview.
Thought there might be a chance I wasn't the only one :-)

Caeldren Shoreman Kaijitsu |

Ansgar, I've moved Cael 5ft, did you want me to move Ansgar as well?

Zelinda Petri |

I think he wants you directly south of him.

Caeldren Shoreman Kaijitsu |

Second verse, same as the first.
Lol, hi Henry :) as kids this became 453rd verse same as the first...
I think I'm where he wants me now... I don't know how we could flank with each other otherwise without me taking a move action, which I won't do because I don't want to provoke...

Caeldren Shoreman Kaijitsu |

Ah, figured out where the confusion was coming from, I had an offline version of the map loaded, my bad.

Caeldren Shoreman Kaijitsu |

@Norm
Check out guarded life when you get a chance. Cliff auto stabilizes while my song is up and I believe 5 of his lethal damge is converted to nonlethal. So when he gets healed he'll double dip for the first 5. Pretty nifty if a bit more bookkeeping.

Normornigan Pewterson |

@Norm
Check out guarded life when you get a chance. Cliff auto stabilizes while my song is up and I believe 5 of his lethal damge is converted to nonlethal. So when he gets healed he'll double dip for the first 5. Pretty nifty if a bit more bookkeeping.
Totally forgot about that! Nice!
As I understand it, he is then unconscious due to non-lethal damage. He was at 7 hp and took 10 damage, where 5 then is converted to non-lethal due to the song, so he is now at 2 hp and the 5 non-lethal than exceeds his HP and knocking him out.
Correct?

Caeldren Shoreman Kaijitsu |

I think that's how that works. Though a second opinion would be nice...

Normornigan Pewterson |

. Though a second opinion would be nice...
Since I agree, it would technically be a third ;-)

Caeldren Shoreman Kaijitsu |

So I think since this power's dependent on barbarian level the amount converted is only 3 hp, sorry I had the number wrong before.

Quiary Squintz |

If non lethal exceeds your level it become lethal. So if you took 10 non lethal and you had 7 HP remaining you would be knocked out to 0, then the 3 excess would be come lethal.

Zelinda Petri |

This is what I see:
So, if you're a 3rd level skald, that means 3 points from the hit become Non-lethal (unless you have something that makes it more).

Caeldren Shoreman Kaijitsu |

I agree with Zelinda.

Zelinda Petri |

In a nutshell, that means that Cliff is at 0 HP with 3 nonlethal damage. Unconscious and stable.

Normornigan Pewterson |

I also agree with Zelinda, don't know why I thought 5 HP was converted, since you are lvl 3 i skald.

Zelinda Petri |

Rules lawyering for goodness!!

Caeldren Shoreman Kaijitsu |

I also agree with Zelinda, don't know why I thought 5 HP was converted, since you are lvl 3 i skald.
That would be because I messed it up in the first place :)

Ansgar Ercanbald |

Just wanted to let everyone know that I am going to be very busy over the next month. I am away this weekend starting tomorrow evening for a funeral, the following weekend I take possession of our new house. Then we are spending two weeks to renovate it before moving in.
I am going to try and keep my posting levels up, but I may not have enough time or energy. Hopefully everyone is okay with that.