I believe Adanel gave it back to Torme, and so we can imagine it was simply dropped in the room with the hound.
Hmm, this could be a complex fight... any chance we can get just a basic grid with positions and such?
Initiative Order thus far:
20 - Killian
15 - Zelladania
13 - Malgrim
10 - Adanel
9 - Madge, Haglark, Patrissa
5 - Demaiv
4 - Ebin, Rekkart
1 - Tablark
I don't believe we got an initiative roll from Zelaria >_>
oh, shoot. ha, sorry guys. I think my paizo borked on that roll and I completely forgot to fix it.
Sorry about that.
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This image is as of Zelaria taking her turn.
Hope you don't mind Zel, I got a bit creative and put you behind a doorframe for cover and concealment, if you'd like it.
I can't move these about, so what you see is what you get.
Also, I'll say that your characters know that zombies can't make Attacks of Opportunity, for tactical purposes. Remember, Malgrim is NOT a zombie.
Patrissa's tentacles give her a 10 foot reach, and each creature under her control extends that out another 5 feet from them.
Initiative Order (actual):
20 - Killian, Aeshuura
17 - Zelaria
15 - Zelladania
13 - Malgrim
10 - Adanel
9 - Madge, Haglark, Patrissa
5 - Demaiv
4 - Ebin, Rekkart
1 - Tablark
Don't forget that patrissa hasn't acted yet Zella, so you get sneak attack too.
Thank you Demaiv, I'll go add that d6. :)
Hm? Natural 20 means crit, not max damage.
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Zelladani, I've never seen multiple rolls for one tumble check, I've only ever done one at my game table.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I would just like to know where you see that you need to make multiple rolls.
I thought that you make one roll, using the highest DC + each opponent avoided.
Using that system, the DC would be:
Malgrim's CMD + 5, +2 for each opponent (3): 25
If you need to make multiple rolls, DCs are:
Malgrim: 14
Patrissa (because of her tentacles): 15
Haglark: 18
Madge: 16
Either way, you failed at Malgrim, provoked from him and Patrissa, and still had a move action left afterwards. Patrissa will try to grapple, so afterwards, what would you like to do?
Also, you couldn't have gotten to Patrissa and attacked: Tumbling is at half your speed.
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Actually, are they still considered flat-footed, since they have not acted yet? If they are, then they do not get an attack of opportunity.
However, if they are not flat-footed, then it looks like one roll for each target, DC equal to the CMD of the target plus 2 for each additional in the round. CMD+5 is for going through a square.
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Me as well. Actually, if you guys don't mind, I'd like to take a vote for a house rule on Death through HP loss:
If reduced to lower than your CON score in HP, you immediately roll a D6 on the following chart:
1 Strength
2 Dexterity
3 Constitution
4 Intelligence
5 Wisdom
6 Charisma
And then you roll another d6. Whichever score you first rolled, that score takes the second roll in damage. If you roll a 6 on your damage, you take that damage and roll AGAIN.
You can still die by reducing your Constitution score to 0 or lower this way. You can also still die by other means, like drowning or starvation.
I have still done a party wipe with this rule in the past; the party was going through a dungeon with 3 feet of water; when they passed out, their characters drowned in the water. It sucked.
Well for my life, I still can't seem to make a decent roll to hit.
Maybe it was just a house rule, but I've had another DM request tumble rolls for each npc I tumble past. If you don't require it though I will only do one in the future. No two DMs are ever alike. :)
Hopefully Rekkart can do up something.
@Demaiv:
How would Demaiv know Killian's real identity? Only Adanel had the vision.
Riiiiight.
Demaiv is just gonna stare at him then.
Did Demaiv take the flask to give Zellaria a shot of it?
Yeah, that was in my previous post. Sorry if I ignored you.
if we're in need of a healer more than another arcane caster, I have one free for before we move on to the AP itself. Wouldn't be so Varisian themed, but a group without any healing capabilities is rather... doomed, i would say.
I would pick up levels in cleric and go Mystic Theurge, but Faiths of Purity specifically says that Apsu doesn't grant spells to clerics or paladins.
I'd offer to take some cleric, but I have no idea how useful that would be with a rogue. :)
I'd have had to build for MT and doing so with a sorc rather than a wizard is just silly from an optimizing standpoint. I don't need the bloodline arcana powers half as much as I would need the healing, although the synergy with channeling...
I would rather say the Sorcerer and Oracle have a fair bit of synergy though. And despite the slight decrease in channels, the charisma focus would possibly make up for them. Though you are correct on the fact it rather hurts channeling quite a bit.
No. because Oracle's spell progression is slow and they are dependant on their class abilities to be any sort of use to anyone. Maybe remake the character completely as an oracle rather than a sorc, but not a MT of one. No way.
Yes, clerics are the most optimized healers. There is just no way around that, but Oracle meshes better with sorcerer is what I was trying to say.
Life oracle anyone?
Taking the curse haunted could be blamed on the module for anyone interested...
Heavens oracle, I think, if I were to change. Would not change the character quite so much at all. If the GM will allow.
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I would pick up levels in cleric and go Mystic Theurge, but Faiths of Purity specifically says that Apsu doesn't grant spells to clerics or paladins.
Didn't say not nothin' bought oracles or inquisitors!
I'd like to remind the group: Every 3ed book is also open for use. And I'm willing to allow 3rd party published stuff, if I review it first.
Oh boy, healer class! Healer class!
Or the 3.5 Priest variant, which is a billion times better than the cloistered cleric.
Or stick with the Oracle idea and help with some debuffs. I could keep the same general character and backstory, just change the feats to revolve around illusions rather than enchantments. Oh, and lose eschew materials...
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What'ev you'd like. Just no switching about character classes later on.
That said, you guys actually need a devoted arcane spellcaster as well, and although I love Demaiv's character, you don't seem to have plans to be the utility mage, but a battle caster, what with the heavy emphasis on the claws and all. Which is awesome! But it leaves ya'll without a steady mage.
Hu5tru, I purchased a copy of the Magister class (back when it was the magus class. "I bought the magus class before the advanced player's guide had one," How hipster of me.) long ago, and PFSRD has it also listed here. This class mixes together arcane and divine spells. And you can select a Sorcerous Bloodline; even though it restricts the selection, I'll allow you to continue to use the Dreamspun bloodline, mainly because I love it so much!
The more I think of it, this may be the best option. But, feel free to do whatever, just remember to check back with me before you change anything for sure.
Also, gamer advice:
HEALERS SUCK.
If you still want to play one, I'd tune into 3.5 private sanctuary's episode on it, and implement their Pathfinder changes; I forget what those were, if they had any at all, but I trust their judgement on how to mod the old classes (even if their evaluations are sometimes off about how the classes work on the 3.5 side), because they aren't broken.