Monk's Robes and Stunning Fist


Rules Questions

Grand Lodge

I posted this in the wrong area, so I thought that I might get an actual weigh in here, hopefully by Sean or Stephen.

Do the monk's robes grant an extra usage of Elemental Fist (monk of the four winds) or Punishing Kick (hungry ghost monk)?

These archetypes replace the Stunning Fist with the newer feats, and so it would stand to reason that it would also augment the other monks' abilities as well.

Of course, there is always the possibility that it was intentionally not addressed to keep the standard monk appealing...


I was under the impression that Monk's Robes was in Core. If so, I'd imagine the answer is "yes", and doesn't mention it just because it came before the archetypes.


As long as you get the same amount of uses for any of them, I don't see a problem.

Grand Lodge

Thanks, guys. I originally posted this in the Pathfinder Society General Forum, but it got moved to Advice. I thought that if it were going to be moved, that the Rules forum would be a better place for it. In a home game, I would have no problem, but the issue arises if I am dealing with it in PFS as a player and as a GM. Right now, I would be apt to say the answer is no, simply because it generally is taken "as written" unless there is a FAQ ruling or Errata, but I foresee neither being a big chance.

I was just hoping that maybe other people might think it worthy of a FAQ tag or something. :)

Grand Lodge

*nudge*


The actual answer is, 'No' because it specifically calls out an extra use of Stunning Fist, which is also a feat not just a Monk ability.

For PFS, you gain an extra use of Stunning Fist, if you don't have Stunning Fist, then that part of the item is useless to you.

Is it reasonable to apply the extra use to the other abilities that replace Stunning Fist? Yes, and if it came up in my own games, I would allow it. But that would be a houserule and houserules aren't allowed for PFS.

Grand Lodge

I was thinking as much. Unless it gets FAQ'd or addressed in Ultimate Equipment, I would be out of luck. That's more than alright, as I would still get the benefit of the improved AC and unarmed damage.

Thanks guys.

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