My timelord insticts tell me the better brood will be victorous....
I've got to get better timing on these things! Unfortunately, my breaktime at work started just as the results were being posted, and I started writing before the results were there! Hoped I'd slip one under the radar.
Im Going to be gone until Monday evening everyone. I won't have internet access so Hamish will be taking a break this cycle.
I think we have to be careful allowing "conditional votes".
Certainly it does create an impossibilty of a draw, or allows a mutant to be sneaky.
I think I'll have to agree on that. I think any conditional votes will have to be PMed to me. Attempting to force a draw is a good tactic for mutants and it's kind of unfair to attempt to push that out. I will take that vote as a simple vote.
And I propose if conditional votes are accepted, the condition should be clear for 30 minutes, allowing those of us who are innocent to counter them.
For example Hamishs' action seem to be fine, provided he would not be upset if we lynched him in his absence. that I am suggesting we should.
I uh, I'd like to say we should. Not beacuse I have quite a few votes against me at the moment or anything, just because Sutra recommended it is all. Yup no other reason besides Sutra.
I think I'll have to agree on that. I think any conditional votes will have to be PMed to me. Attempting to force a draw is a good tactic for mutants and it's kind of unfair to attempt to push that out. I will take that vote as a simple vote.
That's fair. I'll keep it in mind.
Poor Sutra. She found out who killed her right before they did it.
Balls, one of these days I will get to use the ability of my role. :(
It would seem Eldon is doomed to round 2 of these games. Have fun all, can't wait to see who the mutants are!
Sorry Eldon, still annoyed that I couldn't find the quote by Thomas Fairfax about the battle of Marston Moor, to be my last words. It was quite fitting 'that dying for a cause is better than living without one'. Since Dan had a good one in the last game.
I'll just have to had gone out with:
Sutra looks to the others; dark streaks of tears marr her face. "I don't know, sorry Eldon. I just don't want to die." she says in a small voice.
I am so sorry. I thought I had posted about my vacation in this thread. Well, I am back now. And oh my, some things have changed.
"Tardis repair department please?"
My apologies if Wowbagger is too insulting. I realize now he is somewhat contrary to Paizo policy not to flame or insult.
If anyone is offended, speak now and it will cease.
But this is a game that needs a bit of "latitude" in that area to work well.
I see no problem if your imaginary character insults my equally imaginary character!
Just a note: Today's post will be a little over an hour late. I will not accept any votes or PMs that I receive after 7, but the post won't go up until 815ish. Just making sure everyone knows.
Thanks for the notice Boss.
Good luck to the citizens. With both a scanner and me gone you're going to have a tough time with it.
NARCISSISTIC. . .
I... am so incredibly sorry guys... My psychotic ex-girlfriend seems to have hacked my account and posted an angry rant. I... am extremely angry about this and I apologize it got in the way of the game.
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Still lurking, very amusing.
And... I still don't understand the math that says killing citizens without any information is better than waiting and letting scanners and whatnot have extra turns.
It seems so far this "math" is resulting in the mutants winning twice as fast.
And did the most honored and respected DM Ryuko lose a bet or something? Clearly there was something I missed.
Play on. It is great fun to watch.
I have my suspicions...
And did the most honored and respected DM Ryuko lose a bet or something? Clearly there was something I missed.
See above post. *Seethe*
The folks at Paizo's customer service are usually very helpful about removing posts like that if you drop them a note.
And... I still don't understand the math that says killing citizens without any information is better than waiting and letting scanners and whatnot have extra turns.
It might be worth noting that when I made the math post in the last game, I was one of the werewolves...
The folks at Paizo's customer service are usually very helpful about removing posts like that if you drop them a note.
Thanks for the tip Tia. I'll try and get it out of the way.
It might be worth noting that when I made the math post in the last game, I was one of the werewolves...
LOL!! Since that was my first werewolf style game, I really thought it was good advice. It was bandied around several times since then, so I assumed it was a valid point. Gah!
<- Suckered
My psychotic ex-girlfriend...
My apologies you even have one, but the thing that I find curious is what effect she even hoped to have by posting this in a game forum...
Totally rhetorical of course; just my own idle speculation.
In all honesty, I just assumed you were poking fun at Taraz, lol. You could have just played it off as that, and I would have shrugged and moved on. X-D
I'm pretty sure that the math that citizens have to kill each round works out because each time you don't kill, that gives the mutants one more round of choice and they will never kill mutants. That being said, I might be wrong. I could do the actual statistical analysis.
I did a non-rigorous back-of-the-envelope check, and it seemed that it was usually better to not execute anyone, although only slightly.
It depended on the accuracy and number of 'scanners', the number of 'wolves', and whether or not the 'masons' had gone public from the get-go. I'd be very interested in seeing a formal statistical analysis, if you have the time to write one up.
I think I am seeing the logic of not lynching. This would cause only one citizen to get killed, and to give the scanners time to scan. Also, it allows citizens to avoid being manipulated by the mutants into killing another non-mutant.
But as far as being lucky and actually getting mutants by guessing someone every time to have the possibility... Well, so far I haven't seen proof that pans out very well. :/
Mathematically, I remember it being a very close thing. The death of one of the scanners can be enough to tip the scales- and it varied from turn to turn based on the current number of players.
...and, depending on the scenario, sometimes lynching someone can just FEEL right and fit the RP :)
Ryuko, sorry to hear about your troubles.
I suppose it could've been worse, at least here it's harmless (like Taraz said, I'm not sure what she hoped to gain by posting here).
It is time for judgment right? or did I miss something...
DAMNIT! DAMNIT! DAMNIT!
All my hours of planing and ploting, gone to waste!
Well you guys are on your own.
I'll be following the remainder of the game closely.
Sadly met, my goatish friend. Thanks for backing up my suspicion while you were here.
Sorry to see you go, Mr. Hamish.
One thing I'm dying to know: Where did the idea of your character come from -- it's genius. Loved the whole concept and your characterization of him and his actions. It was fun playing with you!
Longtime reader, first time poster. As a fan of this thread, I have to say it looks like a blast, but it's a real wrench losing characters. I'll miss them all. You guys are doing a great job.
If Meowselsworth dies, I will probably ressurect her in the form of Meowselsworth II, the original helmet cat's firstborn kitten. And so on each time a Meowselsworth dies.
One thing I'm dying to know: Where did the idea of your character come from -- it's genius. Loved the whole concept and your characterization of him and his actions. It was fun playing with you!
I'm not sure if you are referring to Hamish himself or the Hamish Goat. If it's Hamish, I actually had a much different idea of what the game would be like when I first signed on to play Ryuko's Murder Mystery Tour. I thought the game was going to be a lot more cut throat and less tactical. I'm glad it worked out to be the other way. I also made him 19 because it seemed like all the other Aristocrats in the game were old(er) and I though I might have an RP advantage by being young. I slapped an English accent on him and said he was Scottish and just kind of went with the flow because I didn't really know how to play. Best decision ever BTW.
If its the Goat its because I decided to follow the lead of Wowbagger, Duke Leto, Professor Devries and many others by recycling Aliases. These games don't last that long and since you can't delete an Alias after 10 posts I'd rather not have them stack up. I also had a bit of a hard time coming up with an idea for The Cold Star. I love Fantasy but I'm not big on SciFi. Coming up with a concept for a SciFi theme was a struggle so I just cycled through Avatars until I came across the Goat. Goats are interesting animals. Read their Wikipedia entry, I bet you'd agree with me. It also kind of fit in well with the SciFi theme so I went with it. In the beginning I was just going to walk around and yell out Dr. Zoidberg quotes for the whole game and see how far I could make it. I also thought it might be neat to tie a character directly in from another game. Many of us have carried over Aliases but I don't think anybody has established a direct link to another game yet. Hamish the Goat is just a mishmash of ideas. Thats why my post count was so much lower this game than others.
I'm surprised you think so highly of Hamish. Of all my Aliases hes probably my least favorite. Especially when standing in the shadow of such memorable characters as Sir James Durham Fairfax, Professor Alessandra Devries (from Werewolves), The Red Robert, Taraz (from Werewolves) and The Hollow. There are others that also stand out but these are the characters I wish I had though of.
Thank you, for the mention Doug. You were an absolute star in the wolf game (both IC & OoC), I am recycling Sir James for a new pbp. The way the game develops is really interesting; at first I tried to make the characters really unlikeable. However the longer I was in the game the nicer they end up, elsewise they will inevitably perish. Of course, I quite liked Sutra, so she died relatively quickly.
This game is reaching a really interesting point, the mutant is still out there and no scanners left.
"For example, we could assume that one who drinks too much is a mutant and lynch them straight away."
That really was a shame, Taraz the drunken Wastrel would have been a (more) epic character in the Werewolf game.
Lol, why thank you Jiminy. I'm not really bitter, but I thought that comment would get a chuckle or two.
"You asked for a story of food, Sir Jiminy. And so..."
** spoiler omitted **...
*boggle*
Taraz really likes his food. He makes that sound almost as good as flies.
I'm surprised you think so highly of Hamish. Of all my Aliases hes probably my least favorite.
The most astonishing thing about this statement is how you are completely disregarding how creative your turn as Hamish the Goat has been. I take liberty speaking for the others, but it's all safe to say we admired how you tied in the previous games to Hamish's backstory rather cleverly.
Many of us have carried over Aliases but I don't think anybody has established a direct link to another game yet.
This one fact was certainly a winner, and I would say you did a great job of making him likable as well. That's no mean feat when you stood beside the infinitely lovable Meowselworth, Sir Jiminy & Sutra. Lol.