Francis, yes to all three questions. I have no problem with a belt holding five wands total. Soumral, unless you have serious objection I'm just loading all your inventory into your haversack, as I really don't want to have to track what you have at the inn and what's on your person. You're at a Light Load now in any case! No worries about encumbrance, I accept that headache myself and will keep track of that and warn you if it becomes a factor.
OK, I've got some time to work on character sheets tonight and will be updating them with the new equipment. Does the following list look correct?
1050gp each
2 Alchemist’s Fire – Hasina
3 Potions of Cure Light Wounds – Hasina
Magical Bird Feather Token – Hasina
Magical Cloak of Resistance +1 – Hasina
3 Antitoxins – Francis
Alchemist’s Fire (one from loot, purchasing one for 20gp) – Francis
Wand of Hide from Undead (Greater) [CL 5]
Sunrod – Francis
2 Flasks of Holy Water – Francis
5 Sunrods – Francis
Magical Cloak of Resistance +1 – Francis
Magical Bird Feather Token – Francis
Adamantine Heavy Mace (ditching longbow and morningstar)
Magical Cloak of Resistance +1 – Elliander
Composite (+3 STR) Shortbow – Elliander
Magical Bird Feather Token – Elliander
Magical Handy Haversack – Soumral
Magical Scroll of Whispering Wind – Soumral
Magical Bird Feather Token – Soumral
Wand of CLW - Soumral
Masterwork Thieves’ Tools – Soumral
3 Spellbooks (each with Mage Armor, Burning Hands, Disguise Self, Shocking Hands and all 0-Level cantrips; each one also has another spell in addition – Dancing Darkness, Fabricate Disguise, Sculpt Corpse) – Soumral
3 Spell Component pouches – Soumral
Purchasing Antitoxin: 50 gp – Soumral
Purchasing Antiplague: 50 gp – Soumral
Purchasing Traveler's Any Tool: 250 gp – Soumral
Purchasing Scroll of Burning Hands: 25 gp – Soumral
Purchasing Scroll of Flaming Sphere: 150 gp – Soumral
Magical Leather Armor +1 – Rediz
Masterwork Thieves’ Tools – Rediz
Thanks! Looks OK.
Equipment went up +3 lbs. Is that Cloak (1lb) plus additional coins (+2lb)?
Elliander - Yes, that's correct!
Rediz - I would say that yes, the 'scent' ability will work against undead just fine. They stink like the grave!!
Hey everybody,
I'm sorry for going missing on you. It's been a very hectic couple of weeks. At work we had two back to back short notice and short deadline extra projects added on top of our regular work. With what free time I've had I really needed to do other things than sit in front of a computer yet more.
Things should be getting back to normal now, and I'll be catching up on reading up to date on posts and posting myself. Within a day or two I should be all caught up and back in the flow.
Good to hear Soumral, no worries at all! This world has got everyone off kilter it seems. As far as my most recent game post, apologies for the confusion, but I think 'north' on the map is actually east as far as true directions go. I tend to forget those details unless I've got one of those compass roses on the map itself. :)
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I will be on holiday for the next 8 days.
Given the internet junkie I am, you will probably not notice much drop in posting rate, but if neccessary please bot me.
Rediz will try to be sneaky whenever possible and throw his bombs, unless the battle looks truely trivial in which case he goes for the crossbow.
It turns out I have a spare 1st level spell slot I still need to fill. Would anyone want to have Enlarge Person cast on them (at a beneficial time of course) if she added it?
Soumral is also still carrying around a fully charged wand of CLW that she can't use. Anyone want to take it off her hands?
I’m not sure Elliander would benefit much by Enlarge Person as he will be easier to hit and clumsier.
He might benefit from spells like Shield or something that protects his mind from being taken over. He's more vulnerable in that way.
If we want to avoid fighting, then spells that increase charisma and such that can aid persuasion could be helpful. Easier to sneak?
If you think it will be a difficult task to activate the compass, then spells that can help you understand it (Comprehend language?) or tinker with it?
Jury-Rig if something is broken with the devices?
Any magic that could help either of the fighters with a Will save, possibly re-roll? The last thing we want is to have to face Elliander or Hasina while fighting real enemies!
I'm afraid the only spell I have that buffs saves is Protection from Evil. I already have it memorized once and would be able to use it again a couple of times since I have 2 Pearls of Power.
Just to be clear, I'm not adding another spell to her book, it's another spell memorized for the day. I could add something to the book to help later but I'd need to buy a scroll so I can add it to her spell book.
@Rediz: It sounds like maybe you're thinking you would have to use UMD for the CLW wand? CLW is on the Alchemist list so you use the wand as effectively as Francis. I'll give you the wand.
I can, by locating and/or buying a scroll of Owl's Wisdom and copying it into my spell book. I could also select it as a new spell the next time we level up. However it's on almost every caster's spell list so it 's not a good choice considering what I have access to on the wizard list that others don't.
I'm only asking about filling a daily spell slot. It has to be something already in the book.
Sorry, not sure why I often see you as a sorcerer instead, Soumral. Must be the lack of beard and pointy hat! :)
It's all that charm on display Elliander. She makes it look so easy. But no lazy and easy spells out of nowhere for Soumral. :p
Jeez poison rules are tricky! That blog post helped a lot! So even though the poison requires 2 consecutive saves to 'cure' it, if you make the first save you are never afflicted, thus you don't need to make a 2nd save. In other words, Rediz made the save when he was bitten, so the poison is negated and there's no reason to make a second save. IF he had failed that first save, then he's afflicted and would need to make two consecutive saves in order to 'cure' himself of the poison. Does that sound right to everyone?
Also, it appears that two CONSECUTIVE saves are needed to cure, correct? So let's say Rediz failed his first save and was afflicted, losing CON damage (I'm not going to tip my hat as to what the damage is!) Then he succeeds on his next save at the end of his action (since you can make the save at ANY point during your action) in Round 1. He still needs to succeed on a second save though, so he takes more CON damage as the poison continues to affect him - despite the fact that he made his save. In the next round (Round 2), he makes another save and fails, taking yet more CON damage. In Round 3, he succeeds at the save - but even though he's now succeeded at two saves, they were NOT consecutive, so he would still take more CON damage, correct? Only if he succeeds in his next save (in Round 4) will he kick the poison and 'cure' himself, thus taking no more CON damage. Am I getting this hypothetical situation correct as well?
I hate poison! It's near impossible for the players to use, and a pain in the butt when used against us!
I'm playing in another game, 1st level characters, where one of the players was poisoned. 1 Con damage per round until cured which "only" needed two consecutive saves.... We carried him back to town with 1 Con, and of course 1 HP!
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Well Poison rules are even more complicated when you need to do 2 consecutive saves, and there are even less infos about it.
But at the following post I found a further clarification how that works:
A successful save, after the first, prevents the effect that round, checks vs the cure, and continues the tracking through the frequency.
Further up james also writes:
So, he gets the save when first exposed. If he makes it, the poison ends with no effect.
So i would say your interpretation that Rediz is secure after the initial save is correct.
But during the recurring saves when I would make them, I would not take the damage for this round. so in your scenario above I would only take damage in R2.
I wondered about that, Rediz. Thanks!
I'll post next round tonight and NPC Soumral if she doesn't post by then. I figure she'll just fire off another Magic Missile from the wand if I bot her.
Very sorry to keep y'all waiting. I was out of town dropping the kiddo off for a couple of weeks at the grandparents. Long drive and stayed overnight. I figured I'd get a chance to do some posting during that time, but I was wrong.
No worries Soumral! I'm very happy with the pace of this adventure, you all rock with your posting frequency!
I'm going to travel July 5-8, so please NPC me if needed.
Elliander will progress with caution, letting the others do the negotiating. If in combat, he'll prefer to use his sword, especially now that it holds charges. Switch to shortbow if ranged attack really needed.
Elliander could use Dancing Lights to give light, but I think that would end the Chill Touch-spell, so he'd be reluctant to do that.
Have a good trip and be careful, Elliander! You are correct, in that another touch spell would cancel out Chill Touch - but so long as you don't touch anyone with the business end of your sword it'll hold those charges for awhile. Maybe indefinitely?
Seriously, I posted Friday.... But I don't remember what it was. I do remember that is wasn't great, so maybe the site saved the roll?
I'll be travelling 3-10 of August. Likely out of internet. Please NPC Elliander if needed. He will fight favoring his sword&channeling and will take cover round the doorpost should the guard try and use his longer reach.
Sorry! Monthly transitions are always murderous for us since the pandemic because of all the policy changes due to unsteady federal relief and surges in applications at that time. I'll get a post up today.
I'll be on a camping vacation until Monday, so no updates this weekend. Still waiting for folks to post though, so will hopefully move things along early next week once you folks either pay off the lamia for the loss of her 'pet', or prepare to do battle!
I think she's closed any real conversation....
This seems a counterproductive direction to take. We can accomplish what we actually need to do at a fairly low cost, a bit of treasure. We can move on fresh to the next one.
Elliander has offered to chip in, and Soumral has offered either gold or a potion as well. Is everyone else so seriously set against the idea of chipping in some they want what is almost certainly going to be an equally depleting fight (of resources we need today, not sometime down the road like money) instead?
I don't have any clue what amount we're being asked for though?
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Well I was under the impression from the discussion, that you guys don't really have anthing to gift. But checking the character profiles their actually seems to be money available,
But since I am the only one who got no share in the spoils from last adventure I have nothing but a few silver pieces to add so I can't help out here. I have also trying to come up with some other way to help, but came up empty. I am also willing to deduct the money you other spend here from my later total if that helps.
I agree with both of you that her demand is not really fair, but On the other hand cheaper than the alternative.
But what bugs me most is that we waste our most precious ressource, which is IC time. Its been almost a month since we entered the room and apart from two diplomatic exchanges nothing has really happened. Since then we have wasted most of our posts looking at each other feeling unsatisfied with the options.
Lets pay or fight, but lets do something.
@Elliander: My understanding is we're all together in the same room. There aren't any doors to close to cut off the guard or the lions, they are right there in the room with us. We have to fight the lot of them all at once.
@Rediz: I'm happy to cover your part.
With 100 gp (equivalent) from Elliander and a matching 200 gp from Soumral & Rediz we'd have 300 gp to offer.
I don't really care about the fairness. I don't see the sphinx's demand as only a minor unfairness at most, and I think the battle would be quite bloody.
I agree that a battle here is foolish. I'm just getting the feeling that anything offered will be a waste of time and she'll start a fight anyway.
"And I warn you, if you dare to offer a trifle for my beloved Iriri, you will pay the remainder in blood!"
That sounds very much like a child demanding something ridiculous and planning on not accepting anything.
If you want to post an interruption to my post, please do. But Francis's faith was insulted. He's done talking.
The lamia is definitely demanding and condescending (and upset you killed her snake!), and though there was no definitive amount requested, you got the impression she was waiting to see what was offered in recompense for her loss. I was waiting to see how much gold you offered (or other items for that matter) before moving on in case you didn't want to do battle - if she could be trusted to keep her word, of course.
But I'm firmly with the idea of moving things along. I've had a renewed sense of energy in posting again, but both of my adventures have kinda stalled out of late. Will be good to get this one moving again! Look for a post tomorrow for sure - depending on if Soumral intervenes quickly it looks like it's going to be a fight. And thanks for your patience! Hopefully we'll keep up the quick pace we had achieved before the recent slowdown.
@Francis: Are you going to put anything toward paying the lamia?
Francis will go along with whatever the party decides, and pay his fair share. That said, he is done even trying to negotiate with her. You have the option of interrupting him and trying to salvage that. He'd prefer peace if possible, but currently feels that it isn't possible.
Soumral, go ahead and post your negotiation if you'd like. Go ahead and give me one more Diplomacy check as well, please. Sounds like you've got 300gp without Francis, but as he's willing to pay 'his share' I'm thinking you've got a total of 400gp plus the returned jewels? I'll hold off on posting combat until Sunday night.
Is Hasina still with us or not?
Hasina is still with us. If you'd like I'll call her tomorrow and see if she can post.
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I will be on holiday starting friday morning for 10 days (21st to 30th).
I will be able to read posts and maybe write something on the first and last day, but for most of the time, I think I will have to be on hiatus.
If neccessary feel free to bot me.
Rediz will be nagging Soumral and getting the compass to run for her when the time comes.
@ GM Can we finalize my character sheet and change the link to the official one?
Gah! I actually did finalize your character sheet (I think...), but just didn't update the link.
Take a look and make sure I didn't leave anything off. I think we already addressed the very few issues I saw originally.
Have a great holiday!!
Elliander holds his sword charged with Chill Touch. That spell does not require concentration to keep and his feat of Arcane Channeling says:
“… If the melee attack is successful, the attack deals damage normally; then the effect of the spell is resolved. If the attack misses, the spell still remains charged on the weapon until a successful melee attack is made, or until another spell is channeled through the weapon.”
The feat Somatic Weaponry: “At 1st level, when wielding a weapon (or holding an item of comparable size) in one or both hands, duskblades can use that item to trace the somatic component of a spell, rather than using their fingers. This allows them to cast spells with somatic components even while their hands are full or occupied, as long as at least one hand is holding an item of proper size.”
So, a duskblade can cast a spell while holding his sword&shield, but does that count as channeling through the weapon when he’s not using the weapon to deliver the spell?
E.g. can he cast the following spells (which have a somantic component) without losing the Chill Touch charges? :
a) Detect Magic,
b) Ray of Frost (a ranged attack spell),
c) Dancing Lights (no concentration required)
What if Elliander channels another touch spell (e.g. Touch of Fatigue), but selects to deliver it through that hand that is not holding his weapon (sword)? It's a melee attack, but not with the weapon.