
Xanya Zellor |

They reprinted Lurker in Darkness in Path of War Expanded, so now there is no reason that you shouldn't be able to pick it next level. That should help a lot. It makes other senses than sight also require perception to see you when using stealth. What feat are you picking this level? Hone weapon or something else?

Kiki Bitterdew |

Originally I wanted to pick dampen presence, but lurker in darkness makes it redundant
@CT:how would Kiki's racial stealth and skill unlock stealth

Kiki Bitterdew |

That and how the penalty reductions on moving while stealthed interact (the rank 10 unlock and Silent hunter)

Quassine Alator |

Have you subscribed to the newly released content?
I might need to order it up as I have all the (probably outdated) beta docs etc.
I need to get it myself.

Kiki Bitterdew |

level 5:
Bab +1
Fort +1
rogue:
+1d6 sneak attack
skill unlock (sneak)
Druid:
+1 level 3 spell
warlord:
warning presence
1 stance battle dragon stace, 1 manuver dragon assault
feat:
hone weapons
skills: 12
+1 stealth
+1 climb
+1 acrobatics
+1 Craft(alchemy)
+1 Escape artist
+1 Knowledge(nature)
+1 Perception
+1 Sense motive
+1 Survival
+1 Knowledge(martial)
+2 disable device

Xanya Zellor |

Dragon assault is a fourth level maneuver. Frenzy strike (from primal fury) is only third, though not sure if you meet the prerequisites. That would give you 4 attacks.

Kiki Bitterdew |

Dragon assault is a fourth level maneuver. Frenzy strike (from primal fury) is only third, though not sure if you meet the prerequisites. That would give you 4 attacks.
sadly I don't fufill the requirements.
I have not found the LEVEL you can use (manuever level, not iniciator level) anywhere, does it depend on my iniciator level or my class level?

Xanya Zellor |

It depends on initator level. It's under systems and use on the d20pfsrd I believe. It's basically the same as wizard casting. 1st at 1st, 2nd at 3rd, 3rd at 5th etc.
Maybe CT will let you swap in a primal fury maneuver? You weren't aware of the requirements when you chose right? In general it's nice to diversify to a few different disciplines so you can pick the best from each and plan out what you are going to take at each level in advance.

Kiki Bitterdew |

thank you, I found it
so I will pick raging hunter pounce this level (its usefull and flavorfull and next level I can pick Frenzy strike)

Kiki Bitterdew |

updated profile

Goliath, War Scion of Ragathiel |

So I never made my level 5 level up post so here goes. This helps as the Goliath I posted was not the version I played for level 4. So referring back to when I leveled to 3 and 4 last time helped me fix everything.
Level 5: Swashbuckler 5, Monk 5, Cleric 5
+1 BaB, CMB, CMD
HP: +17 1d10 max, 5con, 1FCB, 1Feat
Saves: No change
Skill Points: +5
+1 Perception, Sense Motive, Diplomacy
+2 Acrobatics
Feats: Scarlet Einhander Style
Abilities: Swashbuckler Weapon Training, Purity of Body, True Strike Ki Power, Channel Energy 3d6
Spells: 3rd level: 1+1Bonus+Domain

Xanya Zellor |

Can I change reactionary to something else? I kinda want to keep practiced initiator... For example I could change it to Paragon of Speed?

Goliath, War Scion of Ragathiel |

Yeah if Practiced Initiator is combat then I need to switch reactionary as well.
Looks like Adopted for Warrior of Old is my only choice.

CaveToad |

Added this option to signature items if it helps out.
5. Trait Duplication (Cost 1+). Normally you can only have one trait from any specific trait category, for each point spent you can have 2 traits from each category. For each FPP point spent, you can have another trait from each category. Traits must still be purchased with the Extra Traits feat. This ability merely allows you to have more than one trait from from each category.

Goliath, War Scion of Ragathiel |

Neat.
So do you want us to spend a FPP and keep reactionary then? or is Trading it out fine for now?

Xanya Zellor |

Spending FPP to keep the trait is mightily expensive... One extra evolution for Cryxial is about equal to a feat (even if it is fairly limited selection). I'm not sure how many other FPP options are of equal value since you can't chose an extra maneuver, but I'm sure there are some good ones... Extra use of the higher level domain abilities sounds really good for example (are you allowed to pick that)?

CaveToad |

@Goliath: you can trade it out if you want, but if you want to keep both, spend the FPP if you got it.
@Xanya: Agreed, its just an option, I won't say that the FPP system is entirely balanced, it will vary person to person what is most valuable. Higher level domain abilities qualify if they match the X/day based on level or stat as laid out in the rules for Tap Inner Power.

Goliath, War Scion of Ragathiel |

Trading out Reactionary for Adopted (Warrior of Old).
Now I need to take a look at traits and see if it is worth another feat and FPP. I was saving FPP to make my blade adamantine at level 6.

Xanya Zellor |

You don't actually get extra traits though, and you already have additional traits. I'm not aware of any other method to get extra traits beside that. I think I'll skip on adamantine as +4 Furious will be overcome DR/adamantine and the other properties of adamantine while nice aren't essential.

Goliath, War Scion of Ragathiel |

I don't care about the DR. I prefer my weapon be very hard to break.

Xanya Zellor |

Hmm, I'm not aware of any decision to make? Aren't we just going to continue after the tracks?

Goliath, War Scion of Ragathiel |

I can't talk as I must continue the chant, but I assume we follow the trail.

Goliath, War Scion of Ragathiel |

by trail I meant tracks that we are tracking with survival not the path the communicated.

Xanya Zellor |

Yeah, I didn't think following the path communicated instead was even a consideration, sorry.
Simon still hasn't updated to level 5?

Xanya Zellor |

Again I'm wondering about synchonization. Will they try to contact us tonight? Do they even know about my earlier message? How long do I have to wait to figure out if they are going to try? Can I chose to wake up after receiving the message? If not, can I have someone wake me, say every xx:47 through the night to check if I've gotten a message so I can reply at once? Should I try to message them? Who else will I message?

CaveToad |

They just finished their fight more or less, so they are about the same spot you are time wise, perhaps a few hours behind and geographically ahead.
I have relayed your dream message to them (Asheranthi) now that they are out of the fight. How they act on it is up to them.
It is probably more reliable that you have someone wake you occasionally. Otherwise you are more or less bound by the randomness of normal sleep as the minor dream spell doesn't indicate that you can act on it immediately. I take it to mean you remember the dream upon waking.

Quassine Alator |

Quassine is probably the best candidate for that.

Kiki Bitterdew |

It seems that I need to trade traits as well, reactionary to Paragon of Speed, unless there are any special spiderling traits ;)

Xanya Zellor |

Are we waiting for something/someone? Table 5? Simon?
@Simon: Can you commit to play with us? It seems like you keep on posting that you'll come back, but then you disappear again. If you don't have the time for this and would rather prioritize other things with your free time it would be nice to know...

Quassine Alator |

Simon is flirting with all of them delicious college girls, that's the real reason why he ignores us ... LOL

♣♠Magic♦♥ |

I'm very sorry for my absence. It isn't fair to you guys to make you wait for me like this.
I feel like at this point I would be doing the best thing to resign from this game. I had a good time while I was here, but as people grow they change, and I feel that I am no longer the same person I was when I started this game. I have very much enjoyed my time here and seeing the fun things we can make with such crazy rules, but this just isn't making me happy like it did when I started.
CaveToad, I thank you for letting me into this game and I wish you all the best in continuing it and in everything else.
To the rest of you guys I just want to thank you for being so involved in helping me through this. I didn't always make it easy and I thank you all for the time we spent together. You all have wonderful characters and building skills that I am still jealous of. I wish that you too have great success in this game, others, and in life.
I pray for you all and I hope that you find a more involved and dedicated person to fill my slot in recruitment.
Thank you all.

Quassine Alator |

Until Swords Part Magic (Simon)!
After college, come back and check in to see if we are still here.
It was great to play with the Hippy Dragon-man ... lol

Xanya Zellor |

Sad to see you go, I really liked your character, but it was expected. Thank you for being so honest about it. Good luck with the other things that you do in life.

Xanya Zellor |

Sadly Xanya can't use Encouraging roar due to the stupid boosts/mounted rules, but it would be nice if someone could get it with Simon gone...

Goliath, War Scion of Ragathiel |

Yeah one of the reasons I didn't take it was we had the flag. Maybe I will retrain defending the pride to that and let you handle defending the pride. We just need some down time.

Xanya Zellor |

Maybe CT will let you switch it up without spending time on it? Another alternative is that I pick it up for Cryxial next level through Martial Training I. It would still benefit from Opportunistic Gambler I believe.

Kiki Bitterdew |

Sad to see you go

Xanya Zellor |

Personally I would like to see a few more characters before selecting one. I liked that we were able to come with input on who would be chosen for Goliath. There are only like 4 completed characters anyway (including the one from thunderbeard). Mechanically none of them is a perfect fit at least, but activity is more important anyway.