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I am still trying to learn the rules. Help me understand my options. I have a bear who is "charmed" my my magic for 24 hours. He is my friend. And I intend to try to be his friend. And I know that does not mean that he is friendly to my party. So what are my options. Would he follow me and attack someone who attacked me? With a handle Animal Check could I get him to attack someone? Could I get him to guard something? Would Speak with Animals help at all?
I am still trying to learn the rules. Help me understand my options. I have a bear who is "charmed" my my magic for 24 hours. He is my friend. And I intend to try to be his friend. And I know that does not mean that he is friendly to my party. So what are my options. Would he follow me and attack someone who attacked me? With a handle Animal Check could I get him to attack someone? Could I get him to guard something? Would Speak with Animals help at all?
As far as I have understood the rule Animal Friendship puts the Charm condition on the animal (which kind of sucks in 5e) and Charmed is defined as;
A charmed creature can’t Attack the charmer or target the charmer with harmful Abilities or magical effects.
The charmer has advantage on any ability check to interact socially with the creature.
So I guess it's DM's discretion if they would actually help fight... but it also says that damage would break the Friendship spell...
I dunno if this helps or not, can wait till GMF tunes in I guess. I think that your thought process of Charm Animal, then Speak with Animals would be an awesome way to work around this to tell him we are friends etc etc. good thinking!
Re: Charmed: Just because someone is charmed, it doesn't mean that they will do anything you tell them to. If you can speak directly to them, e.g. with speak with animals, you can have a more in-depth conversation and use the persuasion skill. I still don't think that a creature would act against its nature. so you couldn't convince a bear to go attack a group of zombies for you. It's still a wild animal. What you can convince an animal to do for you really depends on the animal.
There is a spell dominate beast that does let you control the actions directly.
Quick FYI: Likely no more posts from me until Thursday.
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Ok. For now I'll just be happy that the spell allowed us to bypass a fight with an animal Lichen did not want to have to kill.
Indeed - bears (especially the fear inspiring Cave Bear) was the bane of low level adventurers in the old halcyon days of Basic D&D :)
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I recall.
I was looking forward to a bear battle!
(But glad we could spare a majestic creature)
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Damn strait you are... Lichen points to his eyes and then to the little monk.
And everyone thinks I'm the evil one...
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You are. I am the neutral one.
I meant our little monk lol.
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Woah woah woah.... Zask is happy.. His handler likes a good fight though
I guess we're respectfully waiting for Daryl's decision.
@Rhys: As we might reasonably fine ourselves in in Blackburn shortly, do you have any more thoughts on the Brethren? I'm just looking for some broad strokes. I just don't want to create an awesome assassins guild or Harpers-esq organization only to have Rhys not be interested in being associated with them.
Out of the country on business through Thursday, and Internet is spotty... so if I disappear for a few days don't fret. I'll be back.
Hi all. I am back from my work trip and con. Pretty exhausted (very little sleep at cons for me) and catching up on everything. I hope to have a post up soon. I have a short trip this weekend too and will be gone Friday through Sunday afternoon. But then that's it for trips for a while. Thanks for putting up with my absence.
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No worries man - glad you had an exhaustively fine time.
We kept Lichen alive in your stead... although if you'd had been a day or two later we'd had sold him to the Imperials passing by ;)
Welcome back Lichen
It appears that I am smack dab in the middle of the hunting grounds of an angry Air Elemental named Irma, so if communication stops for a while be aware that I'm probably hiding in a hole somewhere, but will pop my head back out when it's safe.
GM Fanguar,
As Daryl said an Angry Air Elemental is heading towards the East Coast USA, I work for the local power company here and been tagged for a travel team position to scout damage for restoration crews, so if I disappear Monday, I'll be back as work allows.
Will drop a short note here when called.
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Stay safe over there all!
Thanks for the heads up folks. Here's to hoping Irma mostly blows itself out before it hits the mainland.
Indeed, everyone take care!!
GM I'm on the road now will try to post daily if able bot me if needed, no more spells for the moment.
Will do. Thanks for the heads up.
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That has got to be rewarding work Dplgrin. Thanks for being out there for us all.
Just taking a cue from what GM-Fang suggested, I had a gander over the party's profiles to see where our strengths lie re: skills/checks.
Here's a breakdown of where our front-runners are in each skill (via natural aptitude or proficiency):
+4 (Zask) & +3 (Rhys)
+6 (Lichen) & +3 (Dolgrin/Zask)
+5 (Vhaezil) & +3 (Lichen/Rhys)
+5 (Zask) & +2 (Lichen/Rhys)
+6 (Vhaezil) & +3 (Daryl)
+5 (Vhaezil) & +4 (Daryl)
+5 (Dogrin/Zask)
+6 (Vhaezil) & +3 (Daryl)
+7 (Rhys) & +5 (Vhaezil)
+6 (Lichen) & +5 (Dolgrin)
+3 (Lichen/Rhys/Vhaezil)
+6 (Lichen) & +3 (Dolgrin/Zask)
+5 (Daryl) & +4 (Vhaezil)
+5 (Daryl) & +4 (Vhaezil)
+5 (Dolgrin/Lichen/Vhaezil)
+5 (Rhys) & +4 (Zask)
+7 (Rhys) & +6 (Lichen)
+5 (Zask) & +4 (Lichen)
GM-Fang: Might be worth putting this into the Campaign Tab? If so let me know and I'll email you the formatted version of the above (save you the hassle of inputting format coding)
BD
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That has got to be rewarding work Dplgrin. Thanks for being out there for us all.
It is, tiring, but worth every ache and hour away from home to see someone's face when the power comes back on.
Two week business trip. Should be able to post most days, but might be spotty. Camping on 22nd through 26th, so AFK then.
Thanks for putting that together Vhaezil!
Yup I can put that info in the campaign tab, if you folks want.
GM, should be heading back to the Carolinas tomorrow and back to a more noreal posting rare.
Thank you all for your patience.
No worries Dolgrin - stay safe mate.
Hey guys, what's our move here? Enjoying Dolgin's smithing campaign, and we could entertain the girls disappearance. Do we want to just finish our delivery first of all and come back this way or persue one of those others? I believe we only have until the 31st to complete the delivery?
The missing girl is apprenticed to an alchemist in Thurmaster. You're delivering a package to Eben the alchemist who happens to live in Thurmaster... Just sayin'
Also just as a reminder, several of you do have specific motivations for being thin this part of the game world. I don't know what your plans are for sharing them with the rest of the party, but feel free to be proactive about what you want to do.
Dolgrin's smithing can fall to the wayside if the others wish to move forward, for some reason was thinking we arrived in town middayish, so was looking at half of that smith work being done during that afternoon and the rest falling in the next morning. Not delaying us a full day.
Looks like we are on the 20th, have to the 31st to make delivery, and 40 miles to go....
Everyone cool with doing Dolgrin's smithing bit then moving on to Thurnaster where we can deliver our product and investigate the girl?
With the possibility of a missing girl I'm for not delaying more than overnight here. Lets head to Thurnaster tomorrow. Lichen is more in search of causes to champion so no specific thing to do here, unless I have forgotten something,,,
We can also stop on our way back for the conclusion of the smithing
You have tons of time, so spending a extra day isn't a big deal. Also, Dolgrin has no stakes in delivering the chest, so it is also reasonable for Dolgrin to stay behind (a don't think Lichen and Daryl have any stake in this either).
Apologies on my low profile this week gents - work's been brutal and dealing with pranging my car at the same time... will get a post up today.
Also just as a reminder, several of you do have specific motivations for being thin this part of the game world. I don't know what your plans are for sharing them with the rest of the party, but feel free to be proactive about what you want to do.
Duly noted. I've some plans on that front if we overnight in the "lovely" village of Milborne.
It is with regret and sadness that I'm going to step away from these boards for a while. It's a combination of many things, and the frustration with the board performance just pushed me to do what needed doing. I've got some things that are taking a higher priority in life at the moment. It's been a real pleasure gaming with you all, and hopefully life will give an opportunity to share this hobby we all love in the future...
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Sorry to see you go. Daryl will settle into the quiet life of an NPC and be waiting for you if you are ever interested in re-taking a seat at the table.
@Scran: Take it easy my friend - will miss you across the boards. As we say here is Scotland: Haste ye back!
Aye. You will be missed here Daryl. Sorry to see you go. Hasten back.
TTFN, Scran!
Sorry for my relative absense. Been sick, then halloween and these annoying boards....
GMF/Gang: Apologies on the wee thread jack - Scran was in my Starfinder Dead Suns game, which now has a seat empty... Anyone fancy some space adventure check us out here:
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