GM Chyro [PFS] Season 1 run. (Inactive)

Game Master Chyrone

FYI - I believe the damage from Studied Target does multiply on a Crit. The damage from Sneak Attack or Studied Strike does not.

Extra damage dice (like from sneak attack or a flaming sword) never get multiplied, but all other damage does unless the rules specifically say it does not.

@GM,

I think Brallenera is agreeing to stay back and make her attack a Readied attack if the devil gets close enough for her to attack.

Beats me, unless she says otherwise, this is very much Brallenera acting.

i'll do that.

Joseph?

since the devil entered the fog ting has a 20% miss chance right?

Yes.

Since Las moved before Ting and healed him, Ting would not suffer bleed damage, correct?

Yup.

my dices really suck.^^

Joseph?

When seeing that I couldn't help but to be reminded of some classis PSOne.

Meanwhile, it's still your turn.

Not at my computer, but i think wr should double check the damage.

hey Las, I went back through, it was 64 points of damage so not a lot we can do...

Are you adding bleed damage?

for the separate attacks, but not from the previous rounds. So if both attacks hit which they did, both rounds, each gets +2 bleed damage for that round. So each time the devil attacked he hit twice and did rend damage so each separate attack and the rend damage get +2.

looked like this

Claw: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (20) + 11 = 31, 1d6 + 4 ⇒ (1) + 4 = 5 +2 bleed. 1d100 ⇒ 41
Crit?: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (4) + 11 = 15, 1d6 + 4 ⇒ (2) + 4 = 6 Not confirmed.
Claw: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (14) + 11 = 25, 1d6 + 4 ⇒ (1) + 4 = 5 +2 bleed. 1d100 ⇒ 47
Rend dmg: 1d6 + 6 ⇒ (1) + 6 = 7+2 bleed.

so that round did 23 damage, 6 of it being from bleed.

the first attack was an AOO for 9 points of damage the last attack was:

In a fury, the devil claws at Ting Tang.
Claw: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (15) + 11 = 26, Dmg, last 2 is bleed: 1d6 + 4 + 2 ⇒ (6) + 4 + 2 = 12 1d100 ⇒ 96
Claw: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (9) + 11 = 20, Dmg, last 2 is bleed: 1d6 + 4 + 2 ⇒ (5) + 4 + 2 = 11 1d100 ⇒ 52

Both attacks connect.
Rend dmg, last 2 is bleed: 1d6 + 6 + 2 ⇒ (1) + 6 + 2 = 9

for 32 points of damage, 6 of it being bleed

That's a total of 64 points of damage

Bleed damage doesnt apply on the attack. Ifyou are healed before your turn you do not take the damage.

sorry about the delay in response, I had to go to work

So if the bleed doesn't count, if he was healed before his turn in the next round, it should look like this?

36 Hp to start the combat; the AOO was -9, at 27 HP then the next attack was -17 at 10 hp which you healed him for +5 before the bleed could take affect, then Joseph did another +5 at 20 HP. Then the second attack is for -26, which will put him at -6 HP but – 6 more from bleed from that attack in the third round or -12 if no one heals him before his turn in the third round.

Does that look right to you GM Chyro or did I miss something?

The creature statblock says it deals bleed damage on natural attacks.
Its rend ability also deals bleed, provided both claw attacks hit.
If the claws merely started a bleeding wound, not deal it on the initial attack, then the rend wouldn't have it. That is my reasoning in this.

Ting,
You'd have only once the 'bleeding 2' condition, as bleed effects don't stack.

I will look into it more, as that post was made right before going to sleep.

A creature that is taking bleed damage takes the listed amount of damage at the beginning of its turn. Bleeding can be stopped by a DC 15 Heal check or through the application of any spell that cures hit point damage (even if the bleed is ability damage).

By definition the bleed damage starts at the beginning of the injured creatures turn unless stopped, not at the attack. If I understand this right were not saying he didn't suffer the wound were saying that the bleeding can be stopped before it does the extra damage...

Right, the continual bleed doesn't start until you take your turn.

Now i've edited my previous post's wording.
Bear with me, i'm familiar with the normal rules of bleed, but the 2 bleed on rend is what had me doubting.

With material such as boar style's 2d6 bleed damage (higher up in chain), which works similar to rend in mechanic, that added up to my initial reading, which was right before my tired head hit the pillow.

Now, having been back & forth, it seems more likely (mind you i'm no wiki) that only the rend itself would deal 2 extra bleed damage directly on hit.
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Following that assumption.

2nd combat, Ting was at full at the start.

Round 1: devil deals no dmg, intimidates Brallenera.
Round 2: devil hits Brallenera.
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* Round 2: reach aoo for 9. (Ting at 27)
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Round 3: Attacks Brallenera
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* Round 4: 10 from claws, condition bleed 2. Rend deals 7 +2 .
Ting at 8, bleed 2 condition.
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Round 5: Las heals for 5, no more bleed. (Ting at 13)
Joseph heals for 5. (Ting at 18)
* Round 5: Devil deals 19 with claws, cause condition bleed 2.
Rend deals 7 +2, for total of 28 dmg.

That would mean Ting is at -10/0, bleeding 2 on his turn to death.
Las would have to put a heal on him, or he will die.

so the four points from the two "rend bleed" still count? well - 10 is better than dead...

So if Las and Joseph heals ting this round, assuming he gets above 0 hp will he get to act this round before the devil?

If both of them heal you to conscious, you can act in the next round, as you turn is currently passed due to being KO.

Ting does not want to regain consciousness in this situation. Better to stay down and hope that Brallenera can come through...which it looks like she might have.

While it may be academic thanks to Brallenera's last attack....

With material such as boar style's 2d6 bleed damage (higher up in chain), which works similar to rend in mechanic, that added up to my initial reading, which was right before my tired head hit the pillow.

Is this what you were looking at?

Benefit: You can make an Intimidate check to demoralize an opponent as a move action. While using Boar Style, whenever you tear an opponent's flesh, once per round at the start of that opponent's turn he takes 1d6 bleed damage. The bleed damage dealt while using Boar Style persist even if you later switch to a different style.

Link, boar shred

This is mainly what got me thinking on this bleed +2 on rend.

Based on your link, it looks like there may have been some confusing phrasing in the original entry and Paizo cleaned it up so that you only get 1d6 bleed and it starts on the victim's turn as is normal for Bleed.

Now that the shock that Ting and Brallenera actually survived that encounter has passed, what are waiting on/who needs to do what? I'd like to get this done so that my character might be free for the Gameday PbP

In case anyone has a fresh lvl 1 to take for their first mission, i'm going to run Master of the Fallen Fortress for gameday 5.

Link

There's 2 spots left.

In response to Las Lajas' question, i think we can finish the mission before the 27th, but i'll require Brallenera & Joseph to be more frequent in their posting. 1 a/day, to be sure likely 2 a/day, posts to wrap up before the 27th. Or i'll have to be botting more.

After the smith, you've got 2 things left, being an area and the boss fight.

A boss fight?

You've got to be kidding me? That Host Devil was ridiculous for a party of four. Unless there are a bunch of magic items we haven't found, I am kind of mind-blown at the difficulty of this mission.

I think we the party is going to hold up and rest a day to recover spells/extracts. We'll need to go back and make sure Gali is not a further threat.

Hold up, and risk another host devil to take this one's place?
I think you passed the spoiler DC, and you'd be aware they can summon others like them.

But yes, boss fight. You've hardly set foot into the citadel itself.
The host devil was physically the strongest opponent in this mission.

But hey, it's all up to you guys. ;)

Well, how is the person who summoned the devil going to know its dead if it was guarding the bridge the whole time?

Plus, if the devil could summon other devils, then it must not have been summoned. Summoned creatures can't summon other creatures.

The host devil was physically the strongest opponent in this mission.

I would love to see the statistics on TPK's and deaths from this encounter.

I would like to as well, and yet again not

Is there still a place in your group for the Fortress?

Sorry mademoiselle, all slots have filled.

No problem!

GM Chyro wrote:

The host devil was physically the strongest opponent in this mission.

I would love to see the statistics on TPKs and deaths from this encounter.

I had heard a moduel that's well known for TPKs is Bone Keep. It's a straight forward dungeon grind and my friend saw players wearing black robes with the knowledge they probably won't make it out.

Oh boy. :)

Think you could make the grumpy smith more social?

A good diplomacy check will bypass a fight here, and pave way to the last two parts of the place.

I can post multiple times a/day, but it's up to you guys to do the rest.

Now go and teach these people a lesson. :)

Aww, being smooth with people is Songbird's job. If Joseph doesn't post soon, should someone roll for him?
I'm here for when negociation fails.

Joseph should absolutely Take 10 on the Diplo check. The Dwarf is not hostile and probably has a low charisma. Joesph Takes 10 and then Bra and Ting can try Aid another's. If that doesn't work, then Charm Person.

Can we Take 20 on the steam vents? From an OOC perspective, I'm guessing it's allowed since there are four of them and rolling four 25's is not very likely at this level.

I'm going with no.

Like traps, they have a risk of bad stuff.
Either if you miss the DC by 5+, or roll a nat 1.

But tbh, i doubt it'll come to a nat 1.

Is it possible to determine what bad stuff will happen if the job is botched?

Out of curiosity, does the scenario actually designate a bad result on a "1"?

Nice rolls. Didn't see that Ting had +21 on DD!

Why does Ting have 2 different modifiers on Disable Device?
So Ting's all in the clear.

The scenario designating, not directly.
However, the steam from the pipes can be dangerous, and it does describe the effect then.

It spewing forth at the base, would yield the same thing.

Why does Ting have 2 different modifiers on Disable Device?

Ting has "Trapfinding": The slayer gains Disable Device as a class skill. The slayer also gains the trapfinding and trap sense rogue abilities, using his slayer level as his effective rogue level.

So four class levels would equal a + 2 on disable device for traps.

I did that correct right?
Ting Tang's

Disable Device +19/21 (+4 dex, +4 rank, +3 class,+ 1 trait, + 5 magic, +2 MW tools / +2 for traps)

Magic?

on the map is a square room with a ramp ending at the statue, another set of stairs and four blank balls covering something. I must confess, I moved one of the balls and found a door, are the doors visible to the party? or is it just the three murals? also does the statue play into this?