Yea, about that.
Holy crap, if things keep going this bad, I'd like to shift my build to a more summoning focused build, with a secondary on electrical spells. Geebus we are getting our faces wrecked.
Apparently, we need to put sacrificial meat on the altar, so that we don't get eaten.
Don't give up the ship, boys and girls! We can do this. It can't keep going this poorly!
//unless it does, and we all die. But even then, I'm sure the DM will let us make new characters that might have much better luck!
Let's play a round of "If your character dies today, how would you build differently?"
Anyone?
I might try an arcanist instead of a sorcerer. I'd like to see if one of those neat looking archetypes is worth anything. I enjoyed the bard abilities...I think Elena might be my first bard.
Let's play a round of "If your character dies today, how would you build differently?"
Anyone?
Hmm. In hindsight, I'd create a party with as much AC as possible, dex, armored or magik; get a caster with Sleep/Color Spray; one rager with TWF; one channeling cleric/skill monkey.
As for Broon, I'd retool to arcane archer by switching out Ranger Guide with Sorcerer.
I can definitely vouch for Bard. Great class, that. But arcanist instead of sorcerer sounds like a good play to me. Arcanist looks like a very well-thought-out class. Perhaps a little more flexible than sorcerer.
A Paladin/Sorcerer archer would be that viable, primarily due to feat starvation. Mind you, full BAB, sorcerer spells, Cha to saves and some LoH would be strong options, but not really arcane-archer-y. But you could do, say, a zen archer/empyreal sorcerer (if you want to keep it non-traditional). An elven magus/fighter would also make a strong option I would think. Aside from that, going Paladin/Life Oracle would let you go archer while also being the party healer, life-linking and shield-other-ing people and LoH-ing yourself before firing off a volley of arrows from a safe distance (or using a cure spell on yourself, in case of emergency).
Loriana, instead of summoning, perhaps you could rebuild to get an animal companion (GM permitting of course). Domains are great, but you're going two full-progression casting classes--you probably don't need more spells/SLAs. You could use a tough animal to keep the enemy distracted (I have a PFS druid that uses a boar quite effectively, but everything from alligator to elephant is worth a look).
I like Torg's build. No complaint there. Chopped some of those goblins in half and took a beating before going down. Not like me. I've knocked out one or two goblins after some effort, but I've also used all my dailies (and spent the actions to use them) to little avail.
As for me, with a party of Druid/Arcanist, Bard/Arcanist, Barb/Alchemist, that's a ton of arcane already. Supposing an arcane archer in the mix as well, that leaves the barb/alch as the only frontliner and no party healer. The obvious problem with this is that you really shouldn't make your party healer one of two frontliners. Supposing a healbot archer, that would leave me with a frontliner role. My only regret is that you can't combine barbarian and paladin.
If we do get TPK'd, and most of the rest of the group want to jump into mostly arcane builds, Elena could look at cleric/bard, to boost healing and to keep the bardic goodness. A good CHA would help with cleric's channeling, so I could pull it off, I think.
Of course, I hate to say it out loud, but it looks like our tides may be turning with the dice roller. If we can get Dashuun or Torg back on their feet, we might live after all!!! Elena is trying to provide some distraction to get them running again.
Paladin/Sorcerer archer would be that viable, primarily due to feat starvation
Do you mean NOT viable? Good points, though feat starvation would be if straight class leveling.
That is indeed what I meant. And yes, a few levels of fighter splashed in would do wonders. Still a bit all over the place though.
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Still a bit all over the place though.
Yep, shot down that general disdain with the 16th arrow.
I meant the build's synergy, not just archery in general.
Also, am I crazy or did Broon go twice this round?
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Is it feasible to recraft armor? There is goblin scale mail that is too small for Torg, but could he get it resized (perhaps combining the raw materials from two sets) for cheaper than normal?
I may make a few small changes to my character. Mostly, I don't really like the cleave feat from a mechanics perspective, but I tried at the time to think of something quick when replacing Feral Mutagen.
Changes are fine. Recrafting the armor will take time and money. Since you have the materials, but they would need to be resmelted and crafted, then you could have a local blacksmith craft a suit of medium scale mail out of three of the smaller suits for 25GP instead of the 50GP. (50% discount). Additionally, you could find a masterwork blacksmith to craft it for you for 125GP (75GP discount).
There's those kobolds again. Pesky blighters.
They pop up everywhere!
I think if the dice would have given us a fair shot, it still would have been a challenging battle, but do-able. I'm encouraged we made it through, even with a bit of help from a nobleman.
Still here. Just, y'know, unconscious and stuff.
Was thinking that if I had it all to do again, I'd do a mad dog barbarian/animal(fur) druid.
Broon updated; if he's goblin food this time, it's really meant to be.
Okay, I've been thinking about taking arcanist instead of sorcerer and doing a quick rebuild this evening. I actually plan to take that elemental focused archetype, which will make it more in line with how the DM looks at trying to focus in one element. I was thinking maybe cold focused arcanist...I haven't played a ice/water focused character before.
I know it's not the same, but there's some good ice/water oracle mystery fun to be had if you're up for it.
Sorry that I have spaced out everyone. Not been feeling well the last couple of days, dealing with some major issues at work, and in physical therapy. I'm going to try and get caught up today and hopefully be on track later this evening.
I chose Air elemental mastery in the revised Elena. It just fit better to me.
Am I presumed conscious?
I am planning to rebuild Loriana, 95% sure that I am going to take the occultist archetype for the arcanist, and not sure that there will be any change on the druidic side, but I need to look up a few things.
She is still air focused. Just won't have her pool spending ability at first level. Need to change up her feats, and also do a mock up of her meditations to show the differential and change in paradigm for her.
Heck, Loriana, I forgot you were going to do an electricity build!! I will change Elena since I forgot, lol.
Or we could ALL DO ELECTRICITY BUILDS.
Jk. Elena, did you look at the waves oracle I mentioned? I mean, I'm sure you've seen it before, but it has some of the most powerful revelations I've seen. Fluid Nature, Fluid Travel, Freezing Spells, Punitive Transformation, Water Form, Water Sight... you can do quite a bit with all of that.
I did, Dashuun, but I sort of have my heart set on trying out an arcanist build. I'm really intrigued by that class, so I think I want to pull the trigger on one of those builds.
I rather meant instead of bard, but I certainly understand.
I have swapped to an Earth mastery specialist. I counter your lightning with my acid!!
Elena, do what you want to do. I am not worried about overlap.
I actually am used to playing summoning builds, and so i was going to try out a pure blaster build. And it looks like that I am going to need to shift back to a summoner/battlefield controller build.
Not a problem, she is still going to have electric damage focus, just not nearly as much.
I'm playing in a tabletop campaign right now where my occultist arcanist has the highest kill count with a celestial dog, just because of the fact that he gets silly rolls at times.
I'm happy with going the acid route, Loriana. You can keep all the electricity, lol.
Out at Oktoberfest in Berlin until the 28th of September, thus my internet is going to be a bit spottier than normal. Will update whenever I can find access.
Have a good time, DM!
Bah, why you no tell me in advance that you were going to Oktoberfest? It's not too long of a drive to Berlin! Haha.
I have noticed that when I wake up that there are at times a flurry of posts that go up. How many of our players are in European areas? Currently have one game I am GMing right now that has half the group as Aussies, so I am just curious as to posting times and such for everyone.
Not me, California.
I'm in Brussels, Belgium for work at the moment. Moving back to the U.S. at the end of October after having been here about 18 months.
I post from kentucky in the gold ole US.
Texas. It's the other America.
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I approve the approval. Should turn that into a sticker.
Would you guys want me to keep track of Gold on the Loot spreadsheet? Should be pretty easy since I'm giving out the gold. Gonna put it on there unless people want to track it themselves.
EDIT: Going over the gold totals. Saw that Dashuun had 200+ starting gold. I think I made a mistake in explaining. Everyone should have started with highest average gold. My bad. I updated the spreadsheet to reflect that.
I've already added the 60, so my starting gold was 180. I *did* think you said "max" instead of "average" though, so I'll go back and amend.
Keep up with it, GM, if you don't mind. Certainly makes it easier on us to have it stored in one place.
Yes, please keep track, the Loot sheet is great! Broon started with max 300gp for paladin.
Updates will occur tomorrow! That is when I get back to Dublin from Amsterdam.
Any word from Torg or Loriana? Haven't seen them post recently.