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So, I'd like to begin by saying that I disagree with the ruling about DR not applying to falling damage. I understand that it is the GM's prerogative to make such rulings in unclear rules situations and I will acknowledge that ruling. And, I will admit that in this situation it is truly meaningless as the damage was healed. But I cannot express in polite terms how intellectually offended I am by this ruling. I proceeded to research this question and if there are official rulings to the contrary. I did not find any official ruling and, in fact, only found further unofficial rulings to support this one. The views used RAW arguments such as, "technically it is not an attack" and "technically it is untyped damage". So, it seems unanimous that people think the rules state that DR does not apply. I think these arguments are....silly to say the least, but that is the ruling and, as I said, I will acknowledge and play by your rules. I merely wanted to exercise my responsibility as a player with a ruling on which I disagree.
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Have you looked at how Damage Reduction is described in the Core Rulebook or the Bestiary? Or how falling damage works? The section on Damage reduction pretty much only describes how it interacts with weapons. Weapons normally deal slashing, bludgeoning, or piercing damage; but falling damage is untyped. There is nowhere it specifically says that DR doesn't protect against falling damage, but I would say logically, if DR/- protects against falling; it would also work for every single monster in the Bestiary with DR; including the DR/bludgeoning that skeletons get. This would make falling damage be this really weird kind of damage that can overcome all forms of DR; except for DR/-. I can't think of any other type of damage that works that way.
Some magic creatures have the supernatural ability to instantly heal damage from weapons or ignore blows altogether as though they were invulnerable.
The numerical part of a creature’s damage reduction (or DR) is the amount of damage the creature ignores from normal attacks. Usually, a certain type of weapon can overcome this reduction (see Overcoming DR). This information is separated from the damage reduction number by a slash. For example, DR 5/magic means that a creature takes 5 less points of damage from all weapons that are not magic. If a dash follows the slash, then the damage reduction is effective against any attack that does not ignore damage reduction.
Overcoming DR: Damage reduction may be overcome by special materials, magic weapons (any weapon with a +1 or higher enhancement bonus, not counting the enhancement from masterwork quality), certain types of
weapons (such as slashing or bludgeoning), and weapons imbued with an alignment.
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The GM has made his ruling. There are rulings in which I have felt it important to discuss further (i.e. Tremorsense giving blindsight instead of blinsense. BTW that is wholly incorrect). This is not one where there is a specific right answer. And, though it may offend my physics faculties, it is the GM's responsibility to go with what they think is the right answer. Plus, lengthy rules arguments always leave a bad taste of the opposition for the rest of the scenario and we just started. Therefore, the potential displeasure outweighs an "I'm right".
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Sure I agree with you that its usually not a good idea to get into acrimonious rule debates during a game session.
Interestingly, in the playtest rulebook, falling damage is explicitly defined as being bludgeoning damage; while in Pathfinder its completely untyped. So in that system, there wouldn't be any question about whether it would apply.
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Trust me, I get it. Poor Obtrivi has caused SO many problems in our local community because he requires so many random rule interactions that end up being contested because "That SHOULDN'T work!". After the third time my VL audited him for something he's like "You are NEVER allowed to make something like this again!".
And I haven't, even 10 characters later. Just not worth the hurt feelings. :(
Regarding the question of falling damage and DR, normally I love a good rules argument but life is pretty busy these days so I'll just leave it as is unless someone can find a strong argument to overturn my ruling. I will say that I started out in the same place that Obsidian is, and was annoyed when a GM denied my -1 Barbarian his DR against some falling damage - and I didn't have boots of the cat! :-) - but the 5 star GMs I consulted were all in agreement that it didn't apply. I also posted a question about it on the paizo boards (can't find the link right now) and was surprised to see that the general consensus seemed to be that it didn't apply (but with heavy dose of ymmv). It really comes down to the question: does DR only apply to *attacks*? In any case, it's definitely in the realm of: expect table variation.
Just so I don't forget to do it, let's take a moment to roll for boons.
Roll 1d20 for your player boon. A 19 or a 20 wins a boon. If you roll a 19 or a 20, roll a d4 to determine which boon you get.
No boon for me...
[dice=boon]1d20
edit: was about to type 'so close'... thinking it was still a 1 or a 20... but its 19-20?
1d4
Dr. Strang, that wins you the "Season Explorer" boon. Not sure what that is, but fyi.
Ignatius, congrats! That's gonna get you a "Sapphire Guardian" boon.
Sorry everyone, real life has been hitting the fan.
Apologies again for the delay. Bear with me.
Once again, everyone, sorry that I wasn't able to post for the past several days. I've just posted a very detailed update and look forward to getting us back in the groove with the game. There is, however, a lot happening for me right now in real life, so if there are gaps again as we go along I request your understanding. Thanks!
Are any of you committed to games (with these PCs) for the second part of Gameday (which begins between Oct. 1 and 15, depending on your GM)? We still have quite a bit to go with our scenario and it would be helpful to know if any of you need me to rush us along (and I say that in full realization that I've been the one slowing things down, which may yet happen again due to real life stuff).
It costs me nothing, it is literally at will.
Stone Sculptor
Element earth; Type utility (Sp); Level 5; Burn 0
You can sculpt earth into any shape, as the spell stone shape.
Very nice.
PlayerName: Kolhe004
Character Name: Ignatius Hellfire
Level 7
PFS: 125869-03
Dayjob: [dice=Wisdom check DC 15]1d20+3
Faction: Grand Lodge
Normal Track** spoiler omitted **
Ignatius, was this a Day Job roll of 18, or were you using your downtime to make a Wis DC 15 check for something else (like a faction goal)?
EDIT: never mind, just saw your note about using your downtime to write a report.
Ignatius and Dr. Strang, please send me your email addresses (you can email me at abezab at g mail dot ) so that the PBP HQ can send you the boons that you won.
Chronicles are HERE. Let me know if you have any difficulty downloading them or if I've made any mistakes.
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Thanks for running! Obtrivi didn't get to do quiet as much smashing as he normally does, but it was handy to have the threat! Thanks again!
Yeah, the last two fights are set up to be pretty easy to bypass with the right roleplaying and some decent skills. Very season 8. Still, I'm glad I had at least a couple chances to make your uber-deadly chainsaw monster at least be a tiny bit worried... :-)
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Right now the forums are bugged so GMs can't edit campaign inf, so he can't mark it inactive.
This might help in the meantime.
Yes, that's the case. Every time I click on the edit campaign button I get an error. I'll keep checking it periodically and hopefully eventually they'll fix it.
Marked as inactive! :-)