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PlayerName: Matthais777
Character Name: Obtrivi Heavyhand
PFS#: 176948-3
Day Job: None
Things GM Should know: Obtrivis has a chainsaw, and does a obscene amount of damage. Details can be found in my profile. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Everything has been audited (Repeatedly!) by my VC (Under the oath that I never ever try to make a build this nonsensically complicated again.) Obtrivi will be played as dense as his mental stats suggest, so be ready for that.
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Hi Everybody!
PlayerName: Kolhe004
Character Name: Ignatius Hellfire
PFS: 125869-3
Ignatius is a tiefling gunslinger with some monk levels. He wears long dark robes and keeps his musket glamered most of the time to look like a quarterstaff. Normally he wears a simple wooden holy symbol of Erastril and his Wayfinder displayed prominently; but he is clever enough to hide these inside his cloak while in the field.
Tactics wise, he has Crane style and often fights defensively. And if he's fighting something that's not clearly evil (like a demon) he will often delay his action until they attack first.
Hi Ignatius, what level do you expect to be when we start? This is a 7-11 scenario so I just want to confirm that you’ll be in tier.
Ok, thanks.
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PlayerName: Matthais777
Character Name: Obtrivi Heavyhand
PFS#: 176948-3
Day Job: NoneThings GM Should know: Obtrivis has a chainsaw, and does a obscene amount of damage. Details can be found in my profile. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Everything has been audited (Repeatedly!) by my VC (Under the oath that I never ever try to make a build this nonsensically complicated again.) Obtrivi will be played as dense as his mental stats suggest, so be ready for that.
Lol, ok this should be fun to read through. Hopefully one of my baddies has got dominate person so I can sic you on the rest of the party... :-)
One quick question: how do you have a chainsaw and does it have a limited number of charges or can you use it over and over? (Apologies if that's in your profile - haven't had a chance to look yet).
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He has a racial spell-like ability that allows him to cast enlarge person or reduce person on an ifrit once per day. But other sources would generally not work.
He didn't list it but he probably took Mostly Human out of Inner Sea Races. He doesn't have languages listed either but he probably wouldn't have Ignan if he was Mostly Human.
I don't think the chainsaw is PFS legal and neither is the Techslinger archetype; but maybe he has access to them from a chronicle sheet. If he did, the chronicle would also probably address a way for him to add charges to the chainsaw.
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Heh, time to explain some of this nonsense.
@Obsidean: Yeah I toook the mostly human trait, forgot to mark it down. Derp moment on my part.
@Ignatius: I'll have to double check my build, but it may just be something that me and the VC missed while going over the thing. No worries, a extra -2 won't kill the build and there are ways to improve accuracy as I level up. Edit: I found the problem, during the last audit my VC pointed out that effortless lace isn't society legal for some odd reason, which i had thought was legal up to that point, so i had to remove it. Still looking for a suitable replacement.
The big thing with the chainsaw is the Iron gods adventure path, which provides both access to the chainsaw and to the Techslinger Archtype. While the chainsaw does have limited charges, the techslinger archtype allows him to refuel it using his grit since the techslinger specifies tech weapons not tech firearms can use the grit to charge. I still have to worry about the glitch the first time I turn it on though. >.>
And yes, Gms love dominating and confusing obtrivi. It has happened many times and is hilarious every time. I havne't killed any fellow PCs while under control yet, but hey, that can change.
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Well, you have to expect questions with a build like that. It looks pretty effective but I wouldn't consider it overpowered. Its no worse than a standard archery build would be at your level. But if somebody comes to a table with a Zen Archer I can pretty much guess which feats they have and even what god they worship (Erastril 99% of the time). I like a build like yours because its so unconventional. I couldn't help but pick it apart. I love it.
That Will Save is pretty bad, though. You being dominated did cross my mind. I was recently in a scenario where my psychic was critically hit by an intensified shocking grasp from our party's own magus...Luckily False Life just barely kept me from going down. You're going to about on par with that...without a critical. Multi-classing does weird things to your saves...you're Fort save is really good.
I think we're going to want to have some kind of Hulk busting protocol for you, just in case.
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Obitrivi and I can be each other's buffer for mind control, though I am an outsider(native). Thanks to our level we are unlikely to deal with a Dominate Monster, so it is very unlikely that Obsidian will kill fellow players. But, "defend me" commands/suggestions is likely to be very effective still. I've looked over most people's builds, as a sneak peek on those occasions.
I like this crew. A lot of interesting builds. We have an early entry Mystic Theurge (my personal favorite build, sorry all).
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Finally got my sheet updated on the site.
Name: Soren Treewhisper
PFS ID: 34789-11
Faction: Scarab Sages
Things for GM to know: Soren really likes to grapple things. Sometimes repeatedly in large serpentine form.
I think we're going to want to have some kind of Hulk busting protocol for you, just in case.
Looking at his stats, I can pin him in pretty quick order if needed.
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Hmm... noticed I never posted in this thread, just a quick one in Gameplay to get it on the list. =)
Go time fast approaching, guess I should make sure I'm all up to date!
If you really want to be a b#&*+, GM, dominate me... and I can drain all the charges from the chainsaw. That might slow him down =)
Hey friends, we are a week away from the start of Gameday VII. Please fill out the information below. And if you haven't already done so, please dot and delete in the gameplay thread. Thanks.
Player:
Character:
Character Level at start (for calculating APL):
Pathfinder Society Number:
Faction:
Slow Track or Normal:
Day Job Roll:
Any weird shenanigans I should know about, or passive abilities that are always on:
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PlayerName: Matthais777
Character Name: Obtrivi Heavyhand
Level: 9
PFS#: 176948-3
Day Job: None
Faction: Grand Lodge
Normal Track:
Things GM Should know: Obtrivis has a chainsaw, and does a obscene amount of damage. Details can be found in my profile. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Everything has been audited (Repeatedly!) by my VC (Under the oath that I never ever try to make a build this nonsensically complicated again.) Obtrivi will be played as dense as his mental stats suggest, so be ready for that.
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PlayerName: Kolhe004
Character Name: Ignatius Hellfire
Level 7
PFS: 125869-03
Dayjob:
Faction: Grand Lodge
Normal Track
Also, unless he happens to save a Venture captain or similar high ranking Pathfinder officer during this mission, I would like to forgo his day job to writer report for his faction goal. If he does happen save somebody important (which is a Grand Lodge faction goal); I'll roll his Craft:Alchemy.
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Another thing is that he would greatly benefit from having mage armor cast on himself, as he no longer wears armor. I have a wand (but I can't use it myself) and if all else fails I have a few potions. I would appreciate it if somebody who can use the wand would hold onto it for me and just use it whenever it seems like danger is nearby. If there is a caster in the group who is willing and able to cast it on me I would be very grateful, but by no means do I expect this.
Monday, August 13, is my wedding anniversary, so I will most likely not be able to post at all that day. Also, I will be traveling Thursday, August 16 to Monday, August 20 and may have very limited internet access.
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Player: Saashaa
Character: Obsidean
Character Level at start (for calculating APL): 11
Pathfinder Society Number: 78886-14
Faction: Concordance
Slow Track or Normal: Normal
Day Job Roll: N/A
Any weird shenanigans I should know about, or passive abilities that are always on: Aside from just being a kineticist, I have earth glide and stone shape at will.
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Player: Cwethan
Character: Dunia Mbani
Character Level at start (for calculating APL): 9
Pathfinder Society Number: 182453-02
Faction: Scarab Sages
Slow Track or Normal: Normal
Day Job Roll:
Weird stuff: Dunia has 15' of reach (when she's not enlarged), combat reflexes, and ignores allies for cover, so she frequently will be throwing around AoOs. Aside from that she fights like a magus with a spell list tilted more towards debuffs than damage.
I'm very sorry for the lapse in posting. Between my anniversary, some travel, and the site crashes, I haven't been able to update our game the past several days. My apologies and I look forward to moving us forward now. Thanks for your understanding.
As noted awhile back in the Recruitment thread, your party APL is exactly 9.5, which means that you as a group decide whether to round up or down.
* If you decide to round up to 10, you will play at the high tier with no adjustments.
* If you decide to round down to 9, you will play at the high tier with the 4 player adjustment.
Ignatius has already voted to go up and Obsidean prefers not to vote due to this being a replay. Please let me know your preference: - 3 votes for either will be decisive.
Ok, so far we have 1 vote to round up and 3 abstentions.
Up it is! :-)
Traveling with family to vacation all day tomorrow and was just in a car accident. We are all ok but shaken up. Will be Sunday or Monday before I can post and will likely be erratic for the next week.
Fyi, on family vacation until Saturday so posting will be sporadic at best until Sunday.
Lol yes, copy paste for all my games.
My apologies everyone. Life has been a bit much lately. Working on an update now and will post shortly.
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Soo...
everything aside from a normal kinetic blast costs burn. There are also different ways that burn can be reduced so...
*1 Gather power (at level 11) reduces any burn cost by 2
*2 Infusion specialization (can only reduce the burn cost of infusions) (at level 11) reduces burn cost by 3
^1 Composite Blast costs 2 burn
^2 Entangling infusion (a substance infusion) costs 2 burn
^2 kinetic blade (a form infusion) costs 1 burn
As per my numerical notes above, the Gather power reduces the cost of the composite blast and the Infusion Specialization reduces the cost of both entangling infusion and kinetic blade. Therefore, 0 burn cost.
There are more things that I might use during this game, but I will explain and cite them as used.
Also, I'm in favor of the GM rolling saves and other one-shot, simple rolls instead to speed things up. That being said I also understand people who want to roll their own dice.
Many thanks for that explanation - very helpful - so just to clarify, do you add up the total burn cost (in this case 5) and then subtract 2 and subtract 3, for a total of 0? Or do you (from gather power) subtract 2 from each thing that is costing you burn (in this case 2 and 2 and 1, resulting in 0 and 0 and 0)?
Regarding GM rolling things for players, I'll do that in some cases but prefer not to for saves or other rolls that a player might want to use a reroll or apply some other shenanigans to.
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Gathering power as a move action can reduce the TOTAL burn cost of a blast by an additional two points. This is helpful because his Infusion Specialization only helps reduce the cost of his infusions; so I think gathering power is the only way he has to reduce the cost of composite blast or metakinesises.
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That is partially correct Ig. It is better to reduce infusion burn by infusion specialization first and then gather power reduction. That being said, at 16 the kinetics gets Composite Specialization that reduces the cost of composite blasts by 1, and a 19 Metakinesis Master which reduces the cost of metakinesis by 1.
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I also forgot to add that because I accepted a point of burn, my DR changes to dash.
Your skin hardens like stone, dampening the impact of most attacks. You gain DR 1/adamantine. This DR increases by 1 for every 2 kineticist levels you possess beyond 2nd. By accepting 1 point of burn, you can increase the DR by 1 until the next time your burn is removed, to a maximum DR equal to your kineticist level. Whenever you accept burn while using an earth wild talent, the energy surging through you causes your damage reduction to change from DR/adamantine to DR/— for 1 round. You can dismiss and restore this effect as an immediate action.
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Yeah, I did know about the composite specialization; but it comes into play so late that I don't even really think about it.
I really like how the class works; it really progresses in power well every single level, with you either getting a nifty little trick or a new tactical option for your blast every level; and how you progressively get new ways to manage or spend your burn as you level up.
I have a level 4 Kineticist, so its kind of interesting to me to see a high level (for PFS at least) one in action. He's a water kineticist, which is a bit weaker in combat than earth but I'm still interested in seeing how yours plays.
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All-in-all I find that he is excessively powerful. Earth is quite possibly the most powerful of all the options, but that doesn't mean that the others aren't powerful. I chose to use my last tiefling boon to accentuate the defensive abilities of earth for resist 7 fire, cold, acid and electricity. On top of being Con based and having the resistances and DR, his damage and most utility is based in Con. Thus his high damage that cares little for enemy DR because it is all in one hit, and the saves he provokes that are half level plus Con so...26. AND...his stone shape at will, earth glide at will, low cost tremorsense that gives blindsight, and magnetic shenanigans. I have a lvl 18 early entry mystic theurge and Obsidian is coming very close to his power level and he's only lvl 11.