Ahh. Yes I as thinking more is there a greater immediate threat that may cause magnimar’s destruction then the construct army.
Let’s see other questions.
Is there a way to put Xin to rest without destroying the construct.
Are there any negative effects to destroying the construct.
Will this castle fall or become immediately hazardous to be in if Xin is defeated.
Once we go up the stairs will we immediately encounter the construct.
A)Is there some item, on this Island, that we do not have, which would greatly enhance our ability to defeat Xin?
If the answer to A) is yes, then
B) Is that item in this palace?
If the answer to B) is a yes, then
C) Is that item in the flooded portion of the palace?
If the answer to C) is a no,
D) Is that item up these stairs?
The above will consume between 1 and 4 of my questions, depending on what replies Ardan receives
E) Is there some information, available on this island, that we do not have, which would greatly enhance our ability to defeat Xin?
If the answer to E) is yes, then
F) Is that item information available in this palace?
If the answer to F) is a yes, then
G) Is that information available in the flooded portion of the palace?
If the answer to G) is a no,
H) Is that information available up these stairs?
This sequence will also consume between 1 and 4 questions
I) If we destroy the construct will that permanently defeat Xin?
If the answer to J) is a no, then
J) Will destroying the construct temporally defeat Xin?
This sequence will consume 1 or 2 questions.
K) Is fighting the construct the wisest course of action?
L) If we defeat Xin will the construct army no longer be a threat to Magnimar?
M) Is there a way to put Xin to rest without destroying the construct?
N) Are there any negative effects from destroying the construct?
O) Will this palace collapse or otherwise become immediately hazardous to be in if Xin is defeated?
P) Once we go up the stairs will we immediately encounter the Xin-construct?
Q) Is there anything hostile up these stairs besides the Xin-construct?
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Foxy just wondering. Since this AP appears close to being over…. Are you thinking of starting anything new after this ends?
If you are I would probably be interested in joining…. But would need time to prep if you were changing systems or something.
I didn't buy any APs from the PF2 system, so no change there.
I have quite a few of the old ones though, so question would be which one to play.
Those that we could start without me buying stuff first:
Rise on the Runelords - Anniversary Edition
Curse of the Crimson Throne - Anniversary Edition
Second Darkness 1-3
Legacy of Fire (not an option as I still have two games of that running)
Council of Thieves 1
Kingmaker 1-2
Serpent Skull 1-2
Carrion Crown (I guess not ;)
Jade Regent 1
Skulls and Shackles 1-3 (I think this one is horrible)
Shattered Star (That one neither)
Reign of Winter 1-2
Wrath of the Righteous 1-3
Mummy's Mask 1
Iron Gods 1-6
Giant Slayer 1-4 (Not sure about that one)
Hell's Rebels 1-4
Hell's Vengance 1-2
If I get a vote, I'd call Curse of the Crimson Throne, as I have not played it.
I’ve played the first couple books of CotCT and loved them. I really wanted to continue but I think the game has died.
I’d be excited to play that again (and continue on) if Foxy you don’t mind that I might remember some spoilers out of character. I really wanted to see where that story went.
Plus Urban stories can be so much more fun to roleplay the just being murder hobos.
Foxy I agree with your thoughts on both Skull and Shackles and Giantslayer. Both didn’t really thrill me (although I think it was my fault the S&S game fell apart. I just wasn’t feeling the forced marriage plot.). Iron Gods is the only other one on that list I would be leery about doing, as I’m not huge on science fantasy. But I’ll trust you all if You say IG is good as I know zero about it.
I did like what we played of Shackles but am OK not doing more.
If Throne, maybe a private in the guard.
I've played the CotCT from book three or so a while ago as player and it is a nice AP. Also, me being through it already helps a lot for GMing it.
And it would bring back my most favorite ever NPC!
Ok seems like we are all good with CotCT.
What classes does everyone want to play?
Spugnoir- if you want to be in the guard are you thinking you want to play the tank?
Foxy sounds like you have a Cleric NPC in mind, or do you want to invite a 4th player and use your NPC as a recurring character but not in the party?
Ok, I am officially home...
Dwarf patrolman! Got Warhammer and sap so I can thump rowdy types
Laori only appears in a later book, so no need to plan for her at the beginning.
And we definitely should start with at least 4 players.
Ardan any thoughts on a character?
For me I can have fun with most anything.
Hmmm…. Has anyone seen an unchained rogue work?
I’m half tempted to see if I can get a rogue shadow dancer to be competitive.
Of course I may have just have been watching a ton of Leverage, so that might have something to do with it.
I usually fill holes where convenient... How many characters is Foxy thinking of? He said at least 4 players and he often runs a GMPC (which would make 5...) Sounds like you're thinking sneak/skill of some sort and Spugnoir is going brute, so I could fill arcane maybe. Alternatively I could do a second brute type. But I don't think I want to be the major divine caster, unless no one else will do it.
Ya Divine Caster may be the hard one to fill.
I played a cleric in my last CotCT campaign, so I’d prefer not to do that again in this one so I have less chance of mixing up the two stories in my head.
I meant four or five players that are not me. As games tend to lose players over time and I then fill up with either a nice NPC or take over the abandoned character, but I would prefer to start with a number that delays that.
Hello everyone! I'm a player in one of Foxy's campaigns. They told me about a game of CotCt brewing, and since I'm definitely interested, they invited me to join in!
It's nearly night time in my time zone, and I can't catch up with everything right now, but it looks like you're looking for a healer? I have a Dwarf cleric I could bring to the table.
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I’m hearing lots of dwarves with darkvision…. Any chance we are looking at a semi stealthy party? (SWAT/Special Forces).
Or will this be more of the dwarves phalanx that waves of enemies crash on but never moves? (Dwarven Defenders)
Of course we could have one Human female bard followed by a bunch of dwarves…
Hi ho…. Hi ho it’s off to slay we go!……
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Lips Red as Blood, Hair Black as Ebony, Skin White as Snow, ...
I guess the evil queen of the AP needs a magical mirror now :D
And a hunter tasked with bringing her Snow White's heart!
I might not be popular with this opinion, but perhaps having only one summon spell going at a time? Less work for Foxy with the damage/tokens
It’s the last fight, and Arden is doing all the rolling. Unless Foxy complains I don’t see a problem with pulling out all the stops.
This is supposed to be the epic capstone fight with a literal legend after all.
That said in general, I would agree with you if this was a regular tactic, just for the speed of the game.
Ok, going back to the next campaign....
What we have so far:
Andrea1 - Dwarf Patrolman - Tank
Ythiel - Dwarf Cleric - Divine
ScrubKai - Elven Rogue - Skill
Pad300 - ??? - Arcane?
??? - ??? - Wildcard - Do we want a 5th character?
Foxy -
Should we be using the CotCT Campaign Traits for these characters?
Are these going to be 20 Point buy Characters?
Any other restrictions we should consider as we come up with character concepts?
Well, given the proposed, I figure a half-elf Sorcerer (probably a sage bloodline, because I am not a fan of low skill points).
Yikes this thing is a beast….. with healing I might have one more round I can tank but then I’m probably out….
High 30 AC not evil, fast heal 20 and it hits like me against undead. Maybe we need to try different tactics.
But that burst will mess us all up if we get close and if it corners anyone else they are dead.
You missed a series of full attacks, I was a bit too generous for checking the AC from mind, but Xin has 40. I think that levels out.
Ok Foxy…. Any thoughts on my CotCT character questions above? As I suspect this APwill be over soon.
Ardan, A half elf sorcerer. So do you want to be the party face?
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Ardan, A half elf sorcerer. So do you want to be the party face?
I was figuring Sage bloodline, (int replaces charisma), and be party smarts...
Ahh ok, that makes sense.
Well then If I need to talk, I may need to rethink where I was going personality wise. Unless Ythiel or Andrea1 you want to be the party face?
I will smash faces!
With a Charisma of 13, my dwarf can navigate social situations decently - but Clerics only get 2 skills ranks, and so far she's only trained in Diplomacy.
Ok, character creation rules:
- 25 point buy. No 20 in a stat at start. No dump stats (<10).
- BG Skills.
- Only Paizo Stuff.
- CRB, APG, UC, UM as a given, everything else needs approval.
- 200gp starting wealth for everyone.
- Two traits, doesn't have to be from this AP, but please none from other APs
Also a hint: I'm really bad at trackin debuffs on the monsters. So if you go that route the main spell you'll be casting will be the cantrip Remind GM.
Did I forget something?
Drawback for an extra trait?
Oh boy: then I need to ask permission for a ton of stuff:
Can I use any or all of the following in my build:
1) From Pathfinder Unchained Unchained Rogue class
2) From Melee Tactics Toolbox :
A) Feat: Circling Mongoose
B) the weapon: Elven Branched Spear and the Feat Phalanx Formation
C) Feat: Press to the Wall
3) From Adventures Armory: TraitHeirloom Weapon
4) From Advanced Race Guide: either of the following Alternate Racal Traits Envoy or Silent hunter. Both can be found in the middle of the Elf entry.
Obviously feel free to say yes or no on each different item. These are all just options I’m throwing around in my head.
All fine.
Before reading the last sentence about options my thought was, A and B don't match. Also, an Elven Branched Spear is nothing that turns up in loot very often and while going to a smith and exchanging a +2 for a +3 longsword for paying the difference is no problem, you might have to wait a few days for your very special weapon to be upgraded if you're not in an elven capital.
No.
Oh ya A and B don’t match at all. Still debating on weapons:
A is if I stick with a rapier as those should be pretty common. That would combine with Canny Tumble to make multiple sneak attacks possible but very dangerous.
B is my thought on how I can use that combat reflexes feat I have to pick up if I’m going Shadowdancer. Plus I can stand behind our smash face dwarf in an hallway and still attack.
Pretty dangerous if you're low on HP and easy to hit. Admittedly Elves don't offer themselves for high Con values, but if you have points to spare or a feat left over - Abomentolor has 2nd most HP in the whole party as a sorcerer. You can build almost every class for the frontline ;)
Please move the CotCT discussion here.
Did we ever get a list of ioun stones? Some might be useful for the underwater part.
one of each type of ioun
stone listed on page 521 of the Core Rulebook,
Ok, let's have a vote about what we're going to do
A) lower level(s) now
or
B) lower level(s) tomorrow
Ardan votes B
The immediate threat should be past and as far as I know nobody is threatened.. Grergof is fine waiting a day or two.
We can plan spells (control water, water breathing, touch if the sea….) and sell stuff/distribute the Ioun stones.
But I’d say we grab the Crystal before we go and see what happens to the palace.
Load bearing crystal!
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Ok Ioun stones...
Clear Spindle - Sustains creature without food or Water 4,000 gp
Dusty Rose Prisum - +1 Insight bonus to AC = 5,000 gp
Deep red Sphere +2 enhancement bonus to Dexterity 8,000 gp
Incandescent blue Sphere +2 enhancement bonus to Wisdom 8,000 gp
Pale blue Rhomboid +2 enhancement bonus to Strength 8,000 gp
Pink Rhomboid +2 enhancement bonus to Constitution 8,000 gp
Pink and green Sphere +2 enhancement bonus to Charisma 8,000 gp
Scarlet and blue Sphere +2 enhancement bonus to Intelligence 8,000 gp
Dark blue Rhomboid Alertness (as the feat) 10,000 gp
Iridescent Spindle Sustains creature without air 18,000 gp
Pale lavender Ellipsoid Absorbs spells of 4th level or lower* 20,000 gp
Pearly white Spindle Regenerate 1 point of damage per 10 minutes 20,000 gp
Pale green Prism +1 competence bonus on attack rolls, saves, skill checks, and ability checks 30,000 gp
Orange Prism +1 caster level 30,000 gp
Vibrant purple Prism Stores three levels of spells, as a ring of spell storing 36,000 gp
Lavender and green Ellipsoid Absorbs spells of 8th level or lower** 40,000 GP
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