Dungeon Crash... The Beginning

Game Master BloodWolven

The Idea:
I have been having this idea swirl around in my head quite a bit. Using several amines as a basis for starting a new homebrew, such as the following:

'Sword Art Online'
'Is it wrong to try to pick up girls in a dungeon?'
'Log Horizon'

Make sure to read the campaign info tab before anything else. Check out my profile for my expectations of players.

SAO - Dungeon Crash
Culture, History and gods of Dungeon Crash

The battle map!


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Grand Lodge

Stats:
Male LN Human Monk HP 10/10
Stats:
AC 17_T 17_FF 1_HP 10/10_Initiative +3_Fort +0_Ref +3_Will +4_CMB +2/4/6_CMD 19/21/23_Speed 30
Stats:
Acrobatics +8_Escape Artist +3_Sense Motive +8_Perception +8_No conditions active

Say, I was wondering. Certain abilities I started with upgrade after certain levels, how are we going to work that in with the way you do things here?


NG, Male, Ifrit, HP: 17/17, AC:19/T:11/FF:18, Per:-1, Darkvision 60 ft., Init:+1, Fort+2/Ref+1/Will-1, CMB:+4/CMD:15, Speed: 30, Active conditions: none

You will need to buy them again to get the upgrade

Grand Lodge

Stats:
Male LN Human Monk HP 10/10
Stats:
AC 17_T 17_FF 1_HP 10/10_Initiative +3_Fort +0_Ref +3_Will +4_CMB +2/4/6_CMD 19/21/23_Speed 30
Stats:
Acrobatics +8_Escape Artist +3_Sense Motive +8_Perception +8_No conditions active

?...buy...abilities? The point of those specific abilities wss that I wouldn't have to get the abilities again but that they would naturally upgrade as I level. I don't understand the need to purchase something I already own. If it was something that needed to be taken multiple times, like toughness, in order to get better benefits, than I could understand...bit but it's class skill that levels with me. That's the point of a class skill. At least I thought it was...


we will never gain actual levels or classes in this game. we will acquire crystals which we take to trainers to gain or improve abilities, including HP, BAB, base saves, and skill points. it's all mentioned in the campaign info tab.


Male NG Elf HP 10/10 AC 13_T 13_FF_10 ,Perception +6 , Low-Light Vision ,Initiative +3 , Fort +0, Ref +3, Will +0 ,CMB -1, CMD 12 ,Speed: 30 ,Acrobatics +3 ,Bluff -1 ,Climb -1 Craft(Alchemy) +8 Diplomacy -1 Escape Artist +3 Handle Animal -1 Heal +0 Intimidate -1 Kn. Arcana +8 Kn. Engineering +8 Kn. Local +5 Ride +3 Stealth +4 Survival +0 Swim -1

xtnsn plz. Othrwse ur a n00b. thx.
Just practicing gaming short form.

Grand Lodge

Stats:
Male LN Human Monk HP 10/10
Stats:
AC 17_T 17_FF 1_HP 10/10_Initiative +3_Fort +0_Ref +3_Will +4_CMB +2/4/6_CMD 19/21/23_Speed 30
Stats:
Acrobatics +8_Escape Artist +3_Sense Motive +8_Perception +8_No conditions active

WARNING! RANT...you have been warned!:
I get that. I'm just confused with the change to the class abilities I have. Martial Flexibility is supposed to get more uses per day and gain more feats at time and upgrade which action I use to activate it. If I have to keep taking it over and over in order to upgrade it, I'll never get anything else...it's a very big part of my class abilities. I'm supposed to gain a feat every odd level for being human and a feat every even level for my fighter type class, and I'm supposed to use these to get prerequisite feats for use alongside my Martial Flexibility. If I can't upgrade my ability because I spent everything on upgrading my basic stats or I can't get those feats because I upgraded my class ability...I'll never be any good at all. If this IS how the upgrading of a class ability is...my character is very useless and won't be of any use to the party especially at higher levels. All his abilities hinge on that class ability. I can do nothing with him if I can't upgrade it. I'll have to figure out an even MORE basic character to be able to join this campaign. I started with an Oracle Seer, Mystery of Time, Curse of Tongues, Deity Nethis...I had to make a more basic character because that caster type class was almost destroyed in trying to fit it into the rules. I brought in a very basic fighter type class with some very important abilities...I'm finding out they too are being torn apart by the rules...so what's next...a fighter class with no specialization and no weapon focus becomes too much too? Maybe I should just try for the CAD Fighter and hope that one isn't too much for this campaign. If I'm wrong in my understanding of how "leveling" is done in conjunction with my class abilities, than please end the confusion.

Links to a screen shot of the class ability in question. It upgrades from simply leveling up usually
Martial Flexibility 1
Martial Flexibility 2

Grand Lodge

Stats:
Male LN Human Monk HP 10/10
Stats:
AC 17_T 17_FF 1_HP 10/10_Initiative +3_Fort +0_Ref +3_Will +4_CMB +2/4/6_CMD 19/21/23_Speed 30
Stats:
Acrobatics +8_Escape Artist +3_Sense Motive +8_Perception +8_No conditions active

I'll patiently wait for the GM to help resolve this concern. It doesn't seem as if my concern will be able to be resolved easily otherwise.


NG, Male, Ifrit, HP: 17/17, AC:19/T:11/FF:18, Per:-1, Darkvision 60 ft., Init:+1, Fort+2/Ref+1/Will-1, CMB:+4/CMD:15, Speed: 30, Active conditions: none

@Board: Nothing "automatically" levels up, not BAB, saves, HP or any ability. This was covered in the Campaign Info and we had many examples and discussions about this in the Discussion thread.

You will need to buy it "again" to add more uses per day (GM will tell you how much, depends on the ability I guess), or to add abilities "automatically" gained. There aren't hard rules on what each buy will get you, Wolf will just make sure each special grows similarly for each "buy".

But don't worry that you will fall behind because of this (since this applies to everyone). Wolf has also said we'll actually get more powerful faster than people normally do in a standard "levelling" campaign.

Don't focus overly on the mechanical aspect of the game and just roleplay, you'll bring the effectiveness and role of your character, whether it says +6 or +8 on your character sheet.


Male TN Human _ HP: 9/12, AC: 14 _ T: 12 _ FF: 14 _ Perception +8 Initiative: +2, Fort +2_ Ref +2 _ Will +2 (+2 vs death, necromancy), CMB: +4, CMD: 18, Speed: 30

Right, well again I take an opposite stance of Bastion. The mechanical aspects are what require the most attention in this game. Given the rules some ways of building a character are more efficient than another.

I don't want to overstep my boundaries, but if you'd like suggestions I'd be willing to help.


Board, do you need some hair extensions? ;P

Crystals, Board, you will upgrade everything with the crystal system in place. That reminds me I need to make a generic crystal vender, I think I will go with the Borderlands approach and make dispensers/vending machines/(What are they called?). ;)

Lithganar "BOARD" Tinvaak wrote:
?...buy...abilities? The point of those specific abilities wss that I wouldn't have to get the abilities again but that they would naturally upgrade as I level. I don't understand the need to purchase something I already own. If it was something that needed to be taken multiple times, like toughness, in order to get better benefits, than I could understand...bit but it's class skill that levels with me. That's the point of a class skill. At least I thought it was...

You can have it that way but you won't get to far since you will never level up in this game. You can trade in crystals you find to have more class skills and to get more skill points. We are working in a different class system, one where you get to build whatever character you want.

Thx Aien. LOL.

In response to the RANT:

1st - Everyone gains a feat every odd level in Pathfinder. Humans gain a bonus feat at first level.
2nd - You don't have the fighter or brawler class. You have some of their abilities.
3rd - You will be able to upgrade it.
4th - I see you feel that your character is being torn apart by there being less rules. How will you know this will happen when you haven't done anything to figure out how the system works.
5th - We can make a simple adjustment: She may use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + Dex modifier. If you want even more uses per day you may use a crystal to buy it, or buy an increase in duration per use. Yes this may be making you subdivide a normal class buying it piecemeal but you will likely be overpowered quickly enough. Stronger crystals will be used to gain stronger specials. Most specials usually increase in power as the player levels up. This system might not work, but also it is experimental.
6th - If you can't just enjoy the game and trust that it will work out in this experimental system, then maybe this game is not for you.

As you can tell Bastion was telling the truth.

You all may discuss how to improve on one another's characters. Though the choice will still be up to the player. I also see tin_man's point of asking before suggesting, if you don't want to hear it then why should they go through effort to help you?

On another note it looks like I am running things pretty much on my own so things will get filled out as they come out. Please be patient and suggestions are always welcome on my end.

Grand Lodge

Stats:
Male LN Human Monk HP 10/10
Stats:
AC 17_T 17_FF 1_HP 10/10_Initiative +3_Fort +0_Ref +3_Will +4_CMB +2/4/6_CMD 19/21/23_Speed 30
Stats:
Acrobatics +8_Escape Artist +3_Sense Motive +8_Perception +8_No conditions active

I will state this as matter of fact like as I can. [Excuses]I had a lot going on yesterday. I was flustered with the idea that my dude wouldn't be growing well. I didn't eat my Wheaties.[/Excuses] Most importantly, [Facts]I ranted for no good reason and am sorry that I did that.[/Facts] I know I was being a butt, sorry about that. [Vow of Truth]I promise to not do that again.[/Vow of Truth] I realized something... [Epiphany]It's far more important that everyone enjoy the game than that I have a super awesome character.[/Epiphany] So, what do you all say, forgive me for having low IRL intelligence score? (Aka being stupid)


@ Board: No biggie, it's a little difficult to wrap this different of a ruleset around your head, when you've been playing standard 'leveling' rules for so long.

@Wolf: I suggest we do class features/specials by tiers of upgrade. IE: Deeds, starts at the lvl 1 version, upgrade brings it up to the lvl 3 version, etc.

Basically, the same with Martial Flexibility. First, upgrade bringing it up to the lvl 6 version. Uses per day, I have no coherent suggestion.

@Bastion: As it appears Wolf is allowing 3PP, you could look at Aegis and Soulknife, particularly the Shielded Blade archetype.


I forgive you Board, trust me it happens to us all. Thank you for the apology. I will do my best to keep you guys growing and going! ;)

@Garret, yes I am two steps ahead of you. I got the chart all set up and everything! Check out the google doc, SAO - Dungeon Crash! The link will be going at the top of the game as well.

Who wants another day before the announcement? I am fine extending the announcement as long as you guys want it. Though Monday will be the true deadline if not done before.

Ise'dranl will be joining us later, he is in Asia for the week!


we may as well wait for monday, hard to say how much can happen in 3 hours.


Right and who knows the announcement might be late.


should we discuss suggestions here or add comments to the doc? Adding comments and minor proofreading edits to the content doc for now.

is it just the Egyptian pantheon or is that just the general outline?

Grand Lodge

Stats:
Male LN Human Monk HP 10/10
Stats:
AC 17_T 17_FF 1_HP 10/10_Initiative +3_Fort +0_Ref +3_Will +4_CMB +2/4/6_CMD 19/21/23_Speed 30
Stats:
Acrobatics +8_Escape Artist +3_Sense Motive +8_Perception +8_No conditions active

The general table I completely agree with. Great take on the "leveling" done in this game. I'm fine with one more day, but Monday seems a little long.


Please add comments to the doc. Unless you have permission to change something directly. Feel free to proofread.

If you are adding to the culture, history, and gods feel free to just add information. I actually wanted to start with Greek but got side tracked with Egyptian gods, it was a general outline and barely got work on them. Feel free to add info to any god that does not already have info for them. For each god we need a portfolio, domain, general personality, etc. Go crazy with this document, Death, Hepheastus, and Baris are the only gods that are set so far, though suggestions are still welcome.

Thank you for your vote Board! Now we have one vote for Monday and one vote for just another day. I can work either way just waiting for everyone to vote.


Male TN Human _ HP: 9/12, AC: 14 _ T: 12 _ FF: 14 _ Perception +8 Initiative: +2, Fort +2_ Ref +2 _ Will +2 (+2 vs death, necromancy), CMB: +4, CMD: 18, Speed: 30

I'm not particular


NG, Male, Ifrit, HP: 17/17, AC:19/T:11/FF:18, Per:-1, Darkvision 60 ft., Init:+1, Fort+2/Ref+1/Will-1, CMB:+4/CMD:15, Speed: 30, Active conditions: none

hahaha no worries Board. I have great respect for you for apologizing for this (even if it was no big deal), it's that kind of attitude that takes you far in life.

Grand Lodge

Stats:
Male LN Human Monk HP 10/10
Stats:
AC 17_T 17_FF 1_HP 10/10_Initiative +3_Fort +0_Ref +3_Will +4_CMB +2/4/6_CMD 19/21/23_Speed 30
Stats:
Acrobatics +8_Escape Artist +3_Sense Motive +8_Perception +8_No conditions active

Thanks everyone. Means a lot that your so forgiving even off simple things.


Male NG Elf HP 10/10 AC 13_T 13_FF_10 ,Perception +6 , Low-Light Vision ,Initiative +3 , Fort +0, Ref +3, Will +0 ,CMB -1, CMD 12 ,Speed: 30 ,Acrobatics +3 ,Bluff -1 ,Climb -1 Craft(Alchemy) +8 Diplomacy -1 Escape Artist +3 Handle Animal -1 Heal +0 Intimidate -1 Kn. Arcana +8 Kn. Engineering +8 Kn. Local +5 Ride +3 Stealth +4 Survival +0 Swim -1

Thanks for apologizing. Kindness on the internet is rare these days, so the more we have, the better!


GM Wolf wrote:
All of the temples face into the center of town. Between each temple is a street. The streets lead out through the town to an edge of a plateau. A hundred foot down drop, straight off but there is a path down and a gate at the top.

if all streets lead to a cliff...that would put the city on a mesa, not a plateau, right?

sorry, OCD kickin' in


NG, Male, Ifrit, HP: 17/17, AC:19/T:11/FF:18, Per:-1, Darkvision 60 ft., Init:+1, Fort+2/Ref+1/Will-1, CMB:+4/CMD:15, Speed: 30, Active conditions: none
Garret Ironheart wrote:
GM Wolf wrote:
All of the temples face into the center of town. Between each temple is a street. The streets lead out through the town to an edge of a plateau. A hundred foot down drop, straight off but there is a path down and a gate at the top.

if all streets lead to a cliff...that would put the city on a mesa, not a plateau, right?

sorry, OCD kickin' in

Don't worry about it, this isn't annoying, when I say "I push Garret off the cliff" you can say "you mean 'mesa'" and win :D

just kidding though, I'm happy to learn the difference


lol, at least i'd win at something. and that's where i'd make a pull combat maneuver check to bring you with me.


@Wolf: of course, long after the fact, i think 'Dammit! I should have called her Kami-sama.'

Also, here's this thing Deities by Pantheon


I guess, I don't know the literal translation for a mesa or plateau. I trust you.

LOL, that is true Bastion. LOL and you both fall to your deaths...

Garret you can call her Kami-sama next time! ;)

Awesome Garret could you add that link to the google doc please.


The culture and religion one I don't have permissions for.

A plateau is like a ramp, with a sudden drop at one end.

A mesa is like a table or pedestal.


Male TN Human _ HP: 9/12, AC: 14 _ T: 12 _ FF: 14 _ Perception +8 Initiative: +2, Fort +2_ Ref +2 _ Will +2 (+2 vs death, necromancy), CMB: +4, CMD: 18, Speed: 30

I wanna fite sumtin


Male TN Human _ HP: 9/12, AC: 14 _ T: 12 _ FF: 14 _ Perception +8 Initiative: +2, Fort +2_ Ref +2 _ Will +2 (+2 vs death, necromancy), CMB: +4, CMD: 18, Speed: 30

As above, I'm willing to pair up with someone if we want to arrange a meeting.


I would suggest town hall.

Grand Lodge

Stats:
Male LN Human Monk HP 10/10
Stats:
AC 17_T 17_FF 1_HP 10/10_Initiative +3_Fort +0_Ref +3_Will +4_CMB +2/4/6_CMD 19/21/23_Speed 30
Stats:
Acrobatics +8_Escape Artist +3_Sense Motive +8_Perception +8_No conditions active

I'll be done in a bit and I'd love to enact my well thought out and strategic battle plan...
Step One - Find Enemy
Step Two - Hit With Board
Repeat step two till there is no enemy...return to step one.


Straight to the point and 9/10 effective.

Grand Lodge

Stats:
Male LN Human Monk HP 10/10
Stats:
AC 17_T 17_FF 1_HP 10/10_Initiative +3_Fort +0_Ref +3_Will +4_CMB +2/4/6_CMD 19/21/23_Speed 30
Stats:
Acrobatics +8_Escape Artist +3_Sense Motive +8_Perception +8_No conditions active

No...it's a blunt board...not a point. Well, anyway, don't worry, I'll protect you, squishy smart guy. Just stay behind me when we go out to fight the bad guys, alright?


https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t-I9rkQmfSvxRnOQT9y0CMnt6Ue8JoK8e_DiBA6 seVU/edit?usp=sharing

Garret you should have permissions now and the link is above in case you need it.

tin_man since you have not interacted with anyone yet, you may walk into the monastery with Board, go into a temple, explore the town, bump into Aien and Garret.

;) I love your interactions!


@ Board: 'point' taken and sure i'll let them beat on you for a moment before i blow their brains out. Well, if they have brains that is.

@ Wolf: Yup, that fixed it.

@ tin_man: like Wolf said right now, Aien and I are partied for the moment. Hard to say what will happen.


Since I had only one vote for Monday and one vote for a one day extension, I will be posting the announcement in the morning or if I can't sleep tonight.


Fine by me, Wolf. However you want to run it. My vote was more in consideration of our player abroad.


NG, Male, Ifrit, HP: 17/17, AC:19/T:11/FF:18, Per:-1, Darkvision 60 ft., Init:+1, Fort+2/Ref+1/Will-1, CMB:+4/CMD:15, Speed: 30, Active conditions: none

Cool, I just posted, I doubt I'll get to kill anything before the announcement ...other than my ally


Bastion The Flaming Juggernaut wrote:

"oh hot diggity a reward!"

Bastion rushes to the Town Square

I literally lol'd at this.


Garret Ironheart wrote:
Bastion The Flaming Juggernaut wrote:

"oh hot diggity a reward!"

Bastion rushes to the Town Square

I literally lol'd at this.

So did I!!! ;P

I know what you mean Garret but he will catch up when he gets back.


NG, Male, Ifrit, HP: 17/17, AC:19/T:11/FF:18, Per:-1, Darkvision 60 ft., Init:+1, Fort+2/Ref+1/Will-1, CMB:+4/CMD:15, Speed: 30, Active conditions: none

Bastion is an easily excitable man :D


The mirror is only for appearance and not anything else, right?


NG, Male, Ifrit, HP: 17/17, AC:19/T:11/FF:18, Per:-1, Darkvision 60 ft., Init:+1, Fort+2/Ref+1/Will-1, CMB:+4/CMD:15, Speed: 30, Active conditions: none

Did the robe of the Death god fall on the ground?


That wasn't Kami-sama. Don't know who that guy was.

XD Bastion is hilarious.

Grand Lodge

Stats:
Male LN Human Monk HP 10/10
Stats:
AC 17_T 17_FF 1_HP 10/10_Initiative +3_Fort +0_Ref +3_Will +4_CMB +2/4/6_CMD 19/21/23_Speed 30
Stats:
Acrobatics +8_Escape Artist +3_Sense Motive +8_Perception +8_No conditions active

Yes he is!


NG, Male, Ifrit, HP: 17/17, AC:19/T:11/FF:18, Per:-1, Darkvision 60 ft., Init:+1, Fort+2/Ref+1/Will-1, CMB:+4/CMD:15, Speed: 30, Active conditions: none

Bastion went a bit Tobias Fünke :D


Male TN Human _ HP: 9/12, AC: 14 _ T: 12 _ FF: 14 _ Perception +8 Initiative: +2, Fort +2_ Ref +2 _ Will +2 (+2 vs death, necromancy), CMB: +4, CMD: 18, Speed: 30

I gave it some thought and I've come to the conclusion that I'm more interested in the mechanical aspect of this game than anything else. To that end I'm going to push my characters and use them as a basis for experimentation. If you want help with something than please let me know.


The giant was not Death incarnate. The robe of the giant did fall to the ground.

If you use the mirror, there are several options. First you may make your avatar look like the player. Second you may make any changes of your choice; gender, appearance, and/or such.


@ tin_man: so, you're just gonna murderhobo spree and power-level?

@ Wolf: meaning we could change race, if we wanted?

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