Val is keen to try and make the shillelagh on her staff permanent.
By my calculations this is only a 2000gp magic item. Which seems a bit on the cheap side to be honest. Thoughts?
Note, this is more about action economy that anything else, as casting the spell at the start of each combat is a bit of a pain.
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It doesn't work that way. You can try and get the equivalent however. You need to make it a +1 weapon first then have the Impact ability added after that which is a +2 bonus and only increases the size effect by one, not two like Shillelagh does. That's 32,000gp minimum. (16k if you make it yourself.) The effect is permanent and constant however. The spell's effect is technically easier and cheaper in the end however.
You would probably be better off crafting a magical Staff that casts it with charges instead. You could make a Druidic version of the Staff of Minor Arcana (8000gp)
Minor Staff of the Greatwood
Cast Shillelagh (1 charge)- staff only,
Cast Entangle (2 charges) [or Barkskin for 3 charges?]
Hey, if anybody is looking for a new game, my Skulls and Shackles just lost it's arcane specialist.
If interested just PM my GM HERE..
There is a downside to Shillelagh though, in that it doesn't work on magical weapons, so it can't be further enchanted. Also, the effect only works for the caster/(maker) - limiting its general effectiveness.
Essentially Shillelagh is a buff to druids to make them more combat friendly, thus the preference do a continual spell rather than crafting a more usual staff to do it.
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Permanency works only on a select few spells Val, and even if it didn't you'd need to find someone able to cast it for you at this point. Shillelagh is a decent spell for low level druids but soon it will become less and less useful I think.
@Lirotha: I would love to but I'm swamped with work at this point...
Very nice! Congrats on being published!
Nice. A dream for many of us.
Remind me this weekend when I have a chance to look and I’ll buy a copy of that, Lirotha. I love sorcerers!
I am definitely interested in picking up a copy, not sure when I'll be able to use the things in it but I can dream!
Please feel free to offer, PM, or post any honest criticisms. I love good feedback on my work.
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Yes, it's that time you were all expecting... underwater adventuring at its finest!
Feel free to get youselves out of Lucky Bones' first floor (again :P) and roll another rebellion phase.
And I suggest you start researching stuff that allows you to survive (and perhaps fight) in an underwater environment.
I was not expecting that at all! Yep, we need to get out of here and start figuring that out!
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Luckily, this is an area Valrani can really help. With water domain even! I can do ten hours of water breathing per spell, divided between the lot of us. And if necessary I can shapeshift to an aquatic form such as a shark.
Actually with create wondrous item, I should be able to make things that work a bit better than burning spells, and give us a little more ongoing surety of breathing.
I'd hate to see Val incapacitated underwater and the team stuck in an air-pocket somewhere, but with no way of getting out to get help.
I'm thinking free action may be real helpful too. Especially for us blunt weapon folk.
Oren is going to need a spear or a trident, I think.
@Oren: I suggest spiked gauntlets. That way it changes your damage to Piercing and avoids the penalties, while allowing you to still use your hands as you normally do...
@Val: Good ideas! We can try and supplement too. Free action is expensive however. I doubt we could even afford a scroll.
@GM: I'm assuming we are not leveling yet either? That would be useful...
We should also look at getting some wands/potions/oils of 'Touch of the Sea' and Planar Infusion I(Water)= +2 bonus on Swim checks and a +2 bonus on saving throws against water and cold effects. Oil or wand of Air Bubble would be good for firearms too.
I can memorize spells that will work underwater mostly as long as we can breathe.
Things to possibly buy!
Underwater Crossbow?
Swim Fins?
Light: Sunrods and/or Ioun Torch(s) (Nice item for 75 gps!)
NOTE: I still own an Everburning Torch (110gp) which works underwater.
Elixir of Swimming(250gp for +10 Swim Checks)
Bag of Tricks(Aqumarine: 4500gp)
Ring of Swimming (2500gp)
Cummerbund, Aquatic:+4 competence bonus on Swim checks, and allows her to take 10 on such checks even if distracted or endangered.(2,600 gp)
Kit, Diver's (Source Dungeoneer's Handbook)
Price 121 gp; Weight 38 lbs.;This kit is ideal for adventurers who venture into sunken ruins or half-flooded temples, and includes an air bladder, a common buoy, 30 feet of chain, a fishing net, a glass bottle, a pound of soap, three sunrods, a waterproof bag, and a waterproof hooded lantern with 3 flasks of oil.
Rocco? What's our current monetary stash?
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I will try and start the weekly in-game rolls...today sometime?
Sorry all, I'm really swamped IRL at the moment, so posting is a bit erratic.
I’m waiting on Rocco for a treasury update to see about some of the items Lirotha was kind enough to list for us.
Upkeep:
Bear with me...(Rarr?)
@GM = Notoriety? (Reduce by 1 for Rexus)
Treasury Minimum? = OK
Rank? = Current Supporters is 49-4 = 45 Total.
Treasury Deposit/Withdrawl? = NONE for now?
Activitiy Phase: (x3)
Recruit Supporters:
Success! - ^This puts us to 48 total.
Gather Information:
Success!
Spread Disinformation:
Failure. Again. Notoriety worsens!
Overall...not great. Maybe someone else might want to do this in the future??? My rolls tend to suck in general.
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EVENT PHASE
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Mitigation: If a Silver Ravens officer makes a successful DC 20 Perform check to entertain the rebels and raise spirits, this penalty is reduced to –2.
We can now move on, as soon as you think you are ready to venture underwater and confront whatever lurks down in those lightless depths...
Sorry, all! I've been rather busy as well, and my weekend and evening posting is going to continue to be basically 0 for a while. I should be back in better shape come June, but it's along time til then.
As for our current affairs, I'll need a bit more time to get my head around our finances and things, so if anyone is bored and wants to get us up to date on that in the meantime, I would really appreciate the help!
Also, I'm thinking this next section of underwater shenanigans is going to really put Rocco to the test. Kurglunn isn't proficient with any weapons, and nothing is coming to mind immediately as far as changing the damage type of his unarmed strikes to piercing. It may come down to Kurglunn being in Rocco's subconscious while he tries his hand at the the old crossbow of last resort.
Roll Call!!
Come on everyone. Let's get this party started.
Underwater Spellcasting Memorization!
Spellcasting: *=Memorized
Level 0(4/day) *Detect Magic, *Message, *Touch of Fatigue, *Dancing Lights
Level 1(4/day) *Mage Armor, *Comprehend Languages, *Shocking Grasp, *Air Bubble
Level 2(3/day) *Glitterdust, *Summon Monster II, *Detect Thoughts
Level 3(2/day) *Dispel Magic, *Vampiric Touch
(Familiar/Harrow Deck) 1st lvl: Air Bubble, Cure light wounds, Mage Armor, Burning Hands, Charm Person, Identify, Obscuring Mist, Command, Comprehend Languages, Mount, Adhesive Spittle, Remove Sickness, Shocking Grasp (Patron Spell) 2nd lvl: Stricken Heart, Glitterdust, Status, Flaming Sphere(Patron), Touch of Idiocy, Summon Monster II, Detect Thoughts; 3rd lvl: Vampiric Touch, Swarm of Fangs, Dispel Magic,
Present and accounted for!
I probably need to pick up a pair of spiked gauntlets as Lirotha suggested. Other than that, maybe we need another everburning torch, and I think Oren is probably ready.
Sorry, I'm just flat out with RL at the moment. Things will calm down for a month or so in June, July and then get hectic again for August/September.
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@Valrani: No pressure, I myself am juggling no less than 5 jobs this month and I'm feeling pretty stressed. That said I hope you can find the time to post once every couple of days.
@Everyone: Please do as Lirotha and Oren did. List what you buy, the spells you prepare and what kind of help you want from professor Borhausen. Keep in mind underwater fighting is different from surface fighting. Also you suspect you'll need sources of light while threading through the depths as it seems unlikely you'll find any kind of natural lighting down there.
Ioun Torches are cheaper than Ever-burning Torches, and circle your head... so its a Hands-Free item. Although saying that...I guess you can strap an ever-burning torch to a body part since it does not actually burn anything.
@GM: What kind of spellcasting can the good Professor offer? Anything that lasts a good long time? Is he a Wizard or Arcanist? A Bard or Investigator?
I also recommend buying an underwater crossbow if you intend to stay at range underwater. And everyone bring a dagger...even if you normally don't carry one. It's just too useful underwater.
I have the Wand of Magic Missiles if I really need to do ranged attacks. I can't throw Harrow cards underwater, so most of my memorized magics are Touch spells.
"What is that you want? Speak up girl! I haven't got all day to listen to your silly requests!"
How about some long-term (like Communal Protection from Evil?) protective magic cast on all of us? Maybe Telepathic Bond so we don't have to speak to each other for a while and Val can speakto us in any form she chooses? We have the wand to help us breathe, but as a Wizard Bokar has a lot of possibilities to offer as far as water-breathing goes and swimming aid magics. Any specific suggestions?
Hey guys. I'm also here but also struggling to keep my head above water (see what I did there). I'll post when I can though.
As for equipment, I'm not sure I'll be much use under water. But if my guns don't work then an underwater crossbow, something with Freedom of movement, water breathing and or that gives me dark vision. Whatever the cheapest options are.
Rocco did mention he would be busy until June. I did PM him and Elurious just to be sure.
Maybe we should take a break until June?
Yup. I'm over here floating around (pun intended :P). This month is turning out to be rather busy and doesn't seem to be getting much better, but June should improve things I think. Thanks for the continued patience!
Right now I'm in a bit over my head as far as how to deal with this whole underwater situation. I think Air Bubble will solve one problem for us, and we can do the ioun torches for light, but I really don't know how much I'll be able to do in combat. Rocco is really built to support Kurglunn mostly, and then to debuff mostly with fear effects. I can try the fear stuff underwater, but there are limits to that based on the HD of the creatures we fight. So, I think I'll basically be limited to an underwater crossbow?
For right now, I think I'll pick up the following:
Masterwork Underwater Crossbow
40 Crossbow bolts (20 standard, 20 cold iron)
There are some other spells I might think about scrolls for, but I gotta figure out how much cash we have to throw at this. Oh to have more time!!!
I’m with the DM. I think a break would be a terrible idea. Even two weeks could kill any momentum.
It sounds like there is some trepidation about going underwater right now, though. Want to leave the water for another level or so and come back to it? Maybe we could investigate something else, if everyone is worried. Just a thought.
I'm not worried about waiting...and the water doesn't bother me too much.
I've seen PBP games handle short breaks...but that is a GM decision in the end.
If we move on, do we wait some until one of the others return to head down, or do we just move ahead and bot them? Or do we three go alone?
I'm happy to be botted if you want to. Come June I'll be back to normal for a month or so.
I can jump back in, I think. I'll still be busy, so I may not be able to post daily, but will try to check in at least every couple days. If I'm holding things up beyond that, you can feel free to bot me. It seems like this will be an easier section to do that anyway, since I think Kurglunn will be hanging out in Rocco's subconsciousness instead of being fully manifested. That's one less character to bot!
By the way, just to lay out what spells I have available like Lirotha did to help everyone be on the same page, here's Rocco's spells known:
0 level (DC 14) - Telekinetic Projectile, Grave Words, Daze, Stabilize, Detect Psychic Significance, Light
1 level (4/day; DC 15) - Cure Light Wounds, Cause Fear (DC 16), Burst of Insight, Chill Touch (DC 16), Heightened Awareness (Emotional Conduit)
2 level (3/day; DC 16) - Aid, Ghoul Touch (DC 17), Invisibility, Scare (DC 17, Emotional Conduit)
If we do decide to do a short break, that would also be okay, but I definitely want to come back one way or another in June.
Still working on figuring out how much money each of us has to throw out right now, but I'm gonna put it out there that I'd like to buy a first level Spell Lattice of Doom. Because more spells known is a spontaneous caster's best friend!
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I get the feeling we are going to move on sooner than later.
Therefore...I'm going to say let's continue on Monday (or when the GM is ready)?
With the wand of waterbreathing...and the good professor willing to add some spells? I think we're good to go.
I'm going to ask the professor for a Communal Protection from Evil for the group at minimum...Air Bubble for Talon's guns?
...Maybe Telepathic Bond for the group too if he's willing.
If he's also willing:
Freedom of Movement on Oren at minimum?
Finally...some extended duration(Metamagic) Monkeyfish spells...?
Sounds good to me.
Yup all of those sound good, Lirotha!