I don't think it's much of a secret to know that you all won Round 1 handily. Let's see how you do in Round 2! Hopefully we can move through the rounds faster this time.
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Not that I'm not having fun with Darkest Timeline Verik (and definitely enjoy reading this twisted future), but up to this point it seems that it's a high level showdown between Nikolai and the Cog, with Elsir trying to figure out what he can before whatever "happens" happens.
I'm just raising this up because I'm not certain our new character Borodin would know what the parameters are here for operating in the scene. Also, I'm not sure if anyone knows how the scene is supposed to progress or ensure that it doesn't get out-of-hand. Is my confusion on the D-T expected and fine, or am I missing something that I should be figuring out?
It's to be expected. I'm trying to give all the players the opportunity to run free and wild. Once it's all said and done, or we reach a certain point, I will step in. For now, I'm happy to give a long leash to all involved.
Also, since nonlethal damage gets turned into lethal damage after it becomes greater than current hit points, I'm pretty sure that Nikolai just beat Verik to death.
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Okay that's cool, and thanks for clarifying a bit there.
Hmmm...it's possible on the lethal dmg. Assuming a CON 10 and average hp's, he'd be at 105hp. If you allow poor Verik the Toughness feat at some point in his progression, he'd be +20 to that and therefore would be now at 18hp...perhaps by not being full hp due to the prior beating he'd be at livable negatives.
Wouldn't he be at around -100 or so? 232 damage would be a lot to absorb.
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Wouldn't he be at around -100 or so? 232 damage would be a lot to absorb.
Well I thought the way that it works is that he does up to the current hp in nonlethal dmg, then anything past that is lethal damage. So if Verik was theoretically 125 hp to start as his current hp, taking 232 hp nonlethal dmg would be 125 hp nonlethal + 107 hp lethal. So he'd be 18 hp left but with a 125 hp non-lethal unconsciousness/coma block to work through. I think that's how it goes, though to be fair I've only run nonlethal a couple of times in my tabletop game (and each time they ran down the bad guy's hp's to pretty low w/ lethal damage before doing a non-lethal "knockout" with what he had left).
EDIT: If Verik didn't have Toughness Feat and with CON 10 I'd calculate that after the 105hp non-lethal + 127hp lethal he'd be at -22hp, so pretty dead there.
I suppose you're right. I don't deal with nonlethal damage often.
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I do have to say that while I'm rusty at it, I do like the Pathfinder way of having nonlethal dmg be it's own hp block measured against current hp's as opposed to trying to calculate them out of hp's. If worked right it's very possible for characters to do the heroic knockout blow thing if they wanted to. My 2nd Ed knowledge is fading fast, but I remember that it was nearly impossible and impractical to go for a subdued option.
Well Lorekeeper that's an interesting choice for you to kick off Round 2 -- do you go at Ganghash w/ Intimidate, or at Kolga w/ Bluff or possibly Diplomacy? I'll see about doing a quick post to Jemini on Kolga, then if you don't need me on the aid I'll go play watcher on Magrat for Round 2.
It's to be expected. I'm trying to give all the players the opportunity to run free and wild. Once it's all said and done, or we reach a certain point, I will step in. For now, I'm happy to give a long leash to all involved.
I'm outta ammo for the Darkest Timeline, honestly. I thought I'd get us there and Abadar (or "Abadar") would take care of the rest. I don't think the Cog would see much point in arguing with Nikolai, or grandstanding or anything else. It's a done deal as far as he's concerned, and nothing anyone says will change anything.
Nothing like making things more complicated: I think all calculations on Verik's HP are faulty on the basis that we've moved up at least one age category (with the corresponding penalty to Con).
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Heh. Awwww Lore now that's just mean! I counter your middle-age category point (true I admit) with the point that Verik would have retrained up more hp's past average-per-level with the Ultimate Campaigns Downtime System. Ha ha!
Just keep me at -8 or something ... maybe someone can do a heroic stabilize so that I don't end up a ghost on the fireplace mantle arguing with Akiros, Zander, Berrin...
So, Jemini going to start us off in Round 2, or does someone else want to take the primary?
Again, I'll gladly take a turn at the Intimidate crowd. If we think Jemini should be our only speaker, then I'm fine with that too.
hmmm... you sound like you have something in mind. And perhaps it is convenient that Jemini's intimidating side is not overly advertised.
I'd say give it a shot :)
Well the way I see it, if both of you are "primary" speakers you could do that, but then your rolls compete and one will not add to the other. From a story perspective it makes great sense, so if Nikolai gets a good roll then that gives Jemini the freedom to do an aid another action.
In the meantime I'll do Sense Motive for Verik on the Magrat tribe for Round 2.
Whoa, whoa, why would we do that?
Verik made it clear that neither intimidate nor diplomacy would work well with the Kolga tribe, which his logical deduction ascertained that we should seek to convert next.
I have no problems whatsoever with nik using his intimidate when it's appropriate, but it certainly seems to make no sense to use it no, with the Kolga tribe.
Since Jem has the best Bluff by far, I vote that she continue and use it on the Kolga. Nik or Akiros can try to aid with a bluff (same mod) or Akiros can aid with a diplomacy.
EDIT: Ah, ya ninja'd me Verik. BUt basically I'm agreeing with ya
Yeah I mean either pick Kolga and go with Bluff, or go with Ganghash with Intimidate. There might have been an assumption that Ganghash was the next one up for Round 2.
I don't think it matters which one is Round 2 and which one is Round 3, but once the "primary" of our group picks the (a) Tribe and (b) Skill to use, we're locked in on those two choices for that round with any subsequent 'Aid Another' rolls.
Gotcha
Nikolai would only speak to the Ganghash in this setting.
Go nuts with it!
BOOM BABY!
"Hey Minotaur guy, you like apples? Yeah? Well I just sorted out all the tribes with back-to-back 20's. How about THEM apples!"
Verik is surprisingly adept at figuring things out about centaurs. For the feat of back-to-back 20 rolls, Verik gains the permanent boon of +2 to all rolls involving centaurs: skill and ability checks, hit and damage rolls, saving throws, you name it. +2 all around.
Nice! Well done Verik and well rewarded.
Awesome Verik! :D
And yet he still might fail if the check included a special young filly =p
That is detailed out in another timeline which we haven't named yet...sort of an offshoot of a twig over on another branch on Jemini's timeline tree of Fate there :)
Wow! Great post Borodin! And way to ratchet up the already stratospheric tension several more grades!
Well since DRA ran out of things to say I figured I would take a stab at it.
Might be the shortest time I've ever spent in a PBP campaign though. Heh.
Verik approves of this bold act...by drooling!
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Suggesting that the gang running the centaur skill challenge just gets their posts in without worrying so much about the word count of the post. I know it's a big scene, but more momentum would be better right now for that as opposed to the perfect scene post that takes a week. Not knocking anybody, but I'd just say to let yourself off the hook for some perfect spin on intimidating Ghangash, unless you already have it solid and outlined.
My assumption is that Nikolai will do the Intimidate on Ghangash next; that is why I had DarkestTimeline Jemini post instead of current one.
My assumption is that Nikolai will do the Intimidate on Ghangash next; that is why I had DarkestTimeline Jemini post instead of current one.
Yeah you just wanted to do the Scanners brain-melt on Elsir - what was that like a 6d4 brain-blast there? Reminds me of 2nd Edition Psionics ;)
Why again do you think it's better to do the Ganggash before the Kolga?
Shouldn't it be the other way around? Or does it not matter, as the Ganggash is the only tribe that won't make a negative to the Kolga by getting them on our side.
The I thought it was going to go though is:
Kolga -Bluff
Ganggash -Intimidate
Magrat - ?
(then other one, maybe, unless it means losing the Kolga)
No?
...Or does it not matter, as the Ganggash is the only tribe that won't make a negative to the Kolga by getting them on our side...
That's pretty much what I was thinking - the order between Ganghash and Kolga first or second doesn't impact negatively on each other in terms of penalty because they are allied. So in that case it comes down to which tribe the players are feeling good about for Round 2, and Steven wants to give a good Intimidate performance next with Ganghash.
To your point we can then go Round 3 with Kolga (Bluff), Round 4 with Magrat (??), and Round 5 ending up with Cangarit (??).
Works for me. Guess you're up Steven!
Try not to beat the new guy to death, Mr. CR 21.
Awesome speech Steven. Way better than that roll of 23. Do you have some white house writers living with you or something?
And yes. I would like to make it to the past/present timeline so go easy on me.
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Ancient Sensei needs no puny white house writers! He is possessed of a +5 sigil of loquaciousness. It's pretty rad.
He must be in an anti-magic zone or something. Looks like I'm still alive for the moment. ;)
Who's up next on the posts - For current timeline I'm assuming Jemini for an Intimidate Aid Another score to finish out Round 2, not including the conversation Zander and Taisper has going. I know we're waiting for a Nikolai DT post in DT land.
Jemini is up to finish Round 2.
Sorry for delays. Busy Labor Day weekend in the killing profession.
Jemini is up to finish Round 2.
Sorry for delays. Busy Labor Day weekend in the killing profession.
Yeah that doesn't sound like a good time for Labor Day in Houston. No delays on your end as we four have to finish the round 2 anyway for current timeline. I'm assuming Darkest Timeline is going along how you thought it would go?
Not really what I had in mind, no. :b