Santa Claus in pathfinder?!

To go along with the holiday spirit I suggest we get a thread started about how to create st.nick. Post your ideas and thoughts about what others feel Santa should be like in the pathfinder universe.

He's a witch -- Charm and Cackle -- "Ho! Ho! Ho!"

Also he's has Witch's Hut which can affect a wagon (or sleigh), and his patron gives liberal use of time stop.

Santa is a redcap.

Frost Giant with a Bag of Holding. and a personal workforce of Dark Creepers.

He's a witch -- Charm and Cackle -- "Ho! Ho! Ho!"

Also he's has Witch's Hut which can affect a wagon (or sleigh), and his patron gives liberal use of time stop.

So which reindeer is the familiar? Or does he actually have 9 familiars?

And what's with the army of elves working for him? Are they making longbows in that workshop? Are they planning an invasion?

Clearly, Santa has the Leadership feat. That's where all the reindeer and workers come from.

Fromper, I think Santa's "elves" are more a race of gnomes -- most depictions are that they are of Small size and expert craftspersons. :)

As for WHAT he is, I'd say some kind of good Outsider. Saint Nicholas is a Saint after all; I think he must have Petitioned on Celestia (or other upper plane) and slowly transformed into some kind of Celestial entity.

If santa were to get in a fight what would he do? Would he take out a battleaxe and fight to protect the presents?(santa with a battleaxe would be awesome) Would he try and charm his enemies with his jolly laughter?

He's obviously a ninja. Why else doesn't anybody ever see him come Christmas night?

I would say he is a summoner and Krampus is his eidolon who kidnaps the bad children.

Judging by the nature of the city at the North Pole, he's an Elder Thing. The reindeer are probably shoggoths.

He has sunk a level in Rogue for the high stealth (used for entering peoples' homes unnoticed).

Also, a level of Monk for Flurry of Blows. Not to attack (although he can do that to protect the presents), but to quickly put gifts under trees and into stockings. Time is of the essence!

Santa is a faerie dragon in the middle of playing some type of grand joke on the people of Golarion.

No one can deny that he is a nightwalker.

He's definitely got Haste and Time Stop to be able to get around so quickly.

It's a demon. He use to sneak into people's houses and slaughter everyone in their sleep. Eventually he was partially bound at the center of the crown of the world. Now he can only go out one night a year. He is allowed to eat the bodies and souls of 100 children that night for being "naughty". The good ones he must leave presents too, which are made by his cult followers that where enslaved and now work in a sweat shop making toys all year. The rest of the naughty ones he up chucks the remains of soul fragments into their stockings which most people think look like coal. During the year he watches and makes a list, best not be on his naughty list.

Saint Nic...Logue?

Well here's Sean K Reynold's take on the jolly one from a couple years back...

I always liked that build.

I think he's a First World, Cold Fey.

Moreover, though I hadn't thought of it, TWO Paizonians from Finland have said that the Fluff of Nidal kinda reminds them of home.

So Santa Clause lives in The First World near a thin boundary in the Uskwood in Nidal!

I think he's a First World, Cold Fey.

Moreover, though I hadn't thought of it, TWO Paizonians from Finland have said that the Fluff of Nidal kinda reminds them of home.

So Santa Clause lives in The First World near a thin boundary in the Uskwood in Nidal!

(And he hates Baba Yaga and Irrisen.)

Clement Moore called him an elf too, but that could have just been a metaphor.

Santa's a 20th level sorcerer.

Well, obviously, he is a Pack Lord Druid. How else would he have 9 Reindeer? Hey, Its cold up in the north pole! Flame sphere goes a long way. Besides, why stop his level at 20th anyway? He is quite obviously level 42, he beat the game, broke out, and his LN nature told him to give to the good, and punish the bad. Why 42nd Level? Its the ultimate question to life, the universe, and everything in it. That is the question, what level is Santa? That, or "What do you get if you multiply 6 by 9?" One of those two.

Well, obviously, he is a Pack Lord Druid. How else would he have 9 Reindeer? Hey, Its cold up in the north pole! Flame sphere goes a long way. Besides, why stop his level at 20th anyway? He is quite obviously level 42, he beat the game, broke out, and his LN nature told him to give to the good, and punish the bad. Why 42nd Level? Its the ultimate question to life, the universe, and everything in it. That is the question, what level is Santa? That, or "What do you get if you multiply 6 by 9?" One of those two.

I'm afraid that joke would have been much, much funnier if 6 times 9 didn't (unfortunately) equal 54.

Folks, Father Christmas shows up in the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, to deliver plot-device magical treasure to Peter, Lucy, and Susan. Seems like that's his proper role :-)

Tirq wrote:

Well, obviously, he is a Pack Lord Druid. How else would he have 9 Reindeer? Hey, Its cold up in the north pole! Flame sphere goes a long way. Besides, why stop his level at 20th anyway? He is quite obviously level 42, he beat the game, broke out, and his LN nature told him to give to the good, and punish the bad. Why 42nd Level? Its the ultimate question to life, the universe, and everything in it. That is the question, what level is Santa? That, or "What do you get if you multiply 6 by 9?" One of those two.

I'm afraid that joke would have been much, much funnier if 6 times 9 didn't (unfortunately) equal 54.

You never read the Restaurant at the End of the Universe, did you? Its the sequel to Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

Diviner

How else does he know who's been naughty or nice?

Nazard wrote:

Tirq wrote:

Well, obviously, he is a Pack Lord Druid. How else would he have 9 Reindeer? Hey, Its cold up in the north pole! Flame sphere goes a long way. Besides, why stop his level at 20th anyway? He is quite obviously level 42, he beat the game, broke out, and his LN nature told him to give to the good, and punish the bad. Why 42nd Level? Its the ultimate question to life, the universe, and everything in it. That is the question, what level is Santa? That, or "What do you get if you multiply 6 by 9?" One of those two.

I'm afraid that joke would have been much, much funnier if 6 times 9 didn't (unfortunately) equal 54.

You never read the Restaurant at the End of the Universe, did you? Its the sequel to Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

I guess not. Apologies for missing the reference.

Tirq wrote:

Nazard wrote:

Tirq wrote:

Well, obviously, he is a Pack Lord Druid. How else would he have 9 Reindeer? Hey, Its cold up in the north pole! Flame sphere goes a long way. Besides, why stop his level at 20th anyway? He is quite obviously level 42, he beat the game, broke out, and his LN nature told him to give to the good, and punish the bad. Why 42nd Level? Its the ultimate question to life, the universe, and everything in it. That is the question, what level is Santa? That, or "What do you get if you multiply 6 by 9?" One of those two.

I'm afraid that joke would have been much, much funnier if 6 times 9 didn't (unfortunately) equal 54.

You never read the Restaurant at the End of the Universe, did you? Its the sequel to Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

I guess not. Apologies for missing the reference.

Merry Christmas all.

The fact that the question and answer don't match up is part of the point since the question is about life, the universe, and everything.

This was actually a common theme in the Hitchhiker's Guide series.

Remember that the original question the mice asked was, "What is the answer to life, the universe and everything?"

To which they got the answer of, "42."

Arthur: "6 by 9... 42?"
Ford: "I always knew that there was something terribly WRONG in this universe".
(From the early English TV version)^^

6 x 9 = 42 in base 13 math

Arrrrrrr

CLEARLY, dis santa isa right jolly, rouge-pirate. It esplains the outfit, the need fer breakin' and en-erin', an 'is obvious chaotic neutral tendencies, love o' wassail, wenches, and cookies, not whitstandin'.

Ats roight, Rouge - Pirate.

arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

R-O-G-U-E.

That aside, I like Santa as some kind of unique fey.
His "elves" are either gnomes or brownies or something. I say "brownies or something" because gnomes lost their status as fey creatures and Santa's elves are still obviously fey.
Krampus is also likely some kind of evil fey creature, even though his appearance is demonic. His relationship with Santa is symbiotic. Santa has no martial skills, if it comes to fighting, Krampus fights. Santa does have mind-affecting abilities tied to his laugh and the twinkle in his eyes though. Krampus's metal rattling can also induce a fear effect.

The reindeer, however, are just normal reindeer that are immortal as long as Santa claims ownership of them. Santa feeds them some kind of fairy dust (his body generates it) to grant them the power of flight, as well as their immortality. Santa also has animal empathy as a racial ability, so he can domesticate the reindeer to his purpose, and also so household pets the world over don't wake-up their owners with his arrival.

Unless you want to bring religion into the whole thing, in which case Santa/St. Nick is an azata celestial, the "elves" are still small fey, or possibly just apply azata traits+small size to the petitioner. Krampus is, in this case, a devil, but he's trapped in a very specific contract.

No one suspects him to be dwarven, with all that beard and fat belly?

I like the idea of Santa having tomtin. In real life mythology, they'd drag kids out of bed in the middle of the night and quiz them on religion, then either reluctantly reward them or beat them severely with sticks and coal. The early Santa was brutal.

To make tomtin, I'd take a goblin and replace the goblinoid type with the fey type.

I think you may be looking at him in slightly the wrong way. What if we make the big guy in red (or green if we go pre-Coca-Cola) a god or demi-god? What domains and portfolio?

It would also help to define his scope of operations. Does he cover the whole world? A country? A set of towns in a particular region?

I have to agree with the sorcerer theory Santa has to have maxed his charisma and has a small selection of potent spells.

If we go the Saint Nicholas route...

The reindeer are on loan from Erastil. St. Nick achieved sainthood for the deed of giving away his possessions to poor young girls so they could have a dowry and avoid a life of prostitution. He could possibly be a planar ally of Erastil, hence the fact that in my experience he's always tended to favor gifts that reinforce traditional gender roles (grrrr...).

LG unique Outsider

He's a rogue 20 with some kind of arcane artificer PrC ... He has passed the test of the Starstone and achieved divine status.

Pathfinder stats for Krampus as well.

R-O-G-U-E.

Oi, I sees yer caught on to me attenshuns to proper grammars and spellin's.

Oh, aye ...

Oi! An a vury Merry Christmas t'all you landlubbers :D

Santa is a god. Go ahead and flame me for blasphemy, or whatever, but he is clearly a god.

First of all, in a fantasy sense, he can be in millions of places at once, delivering packages, and do that for 24 hours straight, all around the world. He knows exactly how naughty you've been, and how nice. He has this vast knowledge, yet chooses to act only benevolently, to fulfill his one purpose (domains: generosity, love, joy, good), and rarely, if ever, gets involved in the affairs of men, preferring to watch while men sort their lives out for themselves.

In the real world, Santa is an idea that motivates millions, perhaps billions of people around the world to engage in generosity and to relive the wonder of their own childhoods through the joy of giving to others.

Santa is not only a god. He's the best of gods. Think about this. He is not vain. And he is humble. He gives it up to a power higher than himself, or any god: Love.

Santa is a god I could get behind.

Santa is a very strong warrior wizard. With a very high defense, very strong magic reindeer. Santa knows many magic spells and has many magic items in his sleigh to use. Santa has access to many tricks including tricked presents which have curses or poisons in them. Santa is followed by an army of magic elves who all know magic spells, poison creation, and other tricks of the trade. Santa is skilled with 2 handed weapons also and fly's in his magic sleigh which has a strong protection spell around it.

Santa has a Sleigh of holding which can hold 2,000 tons of gear.

I'm thinking gesault oracle druid.

A pair or minor gods who take dragon shapes. One is red and one is white. White rewards the good and the red punishes the wicked. Their helpers are lawful outsiders who take on appropriate shapes.

NG Human Druid/Rogue/Wizard(Divination specialist to find out who's naughty or nice).
Elves are really Gnomes.

We had The Yule Father a few years back.

I'd say he's some sort of Outsider connected to the elements, likely with the name "Father Winter" or something like that and plays a part in the winter. Maybe even a servant of one of the gods, or a minor god himself who just really enjoys hanging out among mortals.

To go along with the holiday spirit I suggest we get a thread started about how to create st.nick. Post your ideas and thoughts about what others feel Santa should be like in the pathfinder universe.

Santa is Mammon.

No, wait a second. Santa is a deity of Prosperty and (ironically) Children.

Santa Claus is Lawful Evil but has the appearance of being good. He gives the following Domains:

Artifice, Community (Family), Good, and Luck.

Santa Claus' evil worshipers know that he demands that the children pass through the "Fires of Molech." The sacrifice of Children on the altar of prosperity is often done by putting the child on a red hot brazen altar and they just roast alive. The brazen idol of Santa Claus (which can appear as a Minotaur, an Owl, or an old Human) is stoked with fire. His evil worshipers receive the following domains:

Artifice, Community, Death (Murder), Evil, and Luck.

Worship of Santa Claus is an abomination to Iomedae, Erastil, Desna, and Shelyn.