By the way, Ata, what would you think of re-purposing the Royal Assassin position as being an "Elite Investigator" who works in a rather public manner to investigate the big crimes instead of a shadowy, fear-inspiring figure to keep the citizens in line?
As I understand it, that type of position, the investigator, is already taken by the spymaster. The description of it includes keeping an eye on crime in your own country. I think that's why Assassin is the only one you don't get penalized for not having, cause not every country will.
Quick post from the phone. I'll go over it in more detail later, but the intention is more that the Royal assassin is a single charismatic individual whose presence and activities are played up to deter crime and reassure the public. The spymaster isthe chief of police and head of the intelligence service, but one way to fillout the RA position would be toplay up someone as Sherlock Holmes.
Surely Cal as an inquisitor would be the best person for the post you describe Sia, and a rougue bogey would be the Royal assasin, every royal house should have one. especially as this one is gonna shadow dance.
I was just discussing with Sia the other day how a Shadowdancer's abilities are /significantly/ more useful for assassinations than an Assassin's, especially for the bits of it that involve getting /to/ the target (and getting away unseen afterwards)...
I've made an itemized list of her purchases here, and distributed the gear between her and her horse on Sia's party equipment spreadsheet. Anything not carried by either (mostly the winter gear) will be stored at Oleg's, with his permission. If you feel I've missed anything important, let me know.
Surely Cal as an inquisitor would be the best person for the post you describe Sia, and a rougue bogey would be the Royal assasin, every royal house should have one. especially as this one is gonna shadow dance.
Spymaster, High Priest, and Marshal are the roles best-suited for Cal. He's not going to want to be High Priest, though. Honestly, Marshal is probably the best fit both RP and mechanicswise (the Marshal's job is to organize patrols and enforce justice in wilderness regions; he adds his Dex or Wis mod to the kingdom's Economy score).
Quick post from the phone. I'll go over it in more detail later, but the intention is more that the Royal assassin is a single charismatic individual whose presence and activities are played up to deter crime and reassure the public. The spymaster isthe chief of police and head of the intelligence service, but one way to fillout the RA position would be toplay up someone as Sherlock Holmes.
Honestly I'm not sure what you're trying to convince me of right now. If the idea is that you want a character who is a Sherlock Holmes investigator, then I think the spymaster fits that well. If you want someone who kills people who need killing, than the RA is best.
From an OOC perspective... Given the choice between the two I'd fill the Spymaster. It gives a bonus to one of three things that you can change, and not having it filled causes some major negatives. While not filling RA does nothing. True, filling the RA is the only way to reduce unrest, but you can get that from putting any NPC in there.
If it's a story/RP thing, than I would refer to the first paragraph. An investigator fits better in the Spymaster role. As evidence of this, note that the Spymaster uses Dex or Int, where the RA uses Dex or Str. I see an Investigator using his Int to gain the bonus.
Obviously all of this is academic at this point, but as it stands right now, I see Cal as a great Marshal, Gorax as a great Warden, Sia as a great Ruler, Estruven as a great General, and Kyrie as a great Spymaster (shadowdancer is a great prestige class for this to me). That covers 5 of the mandatory 10 positions. The rest you can fill with NPCs. Several will be introduced that can fill them satisfactorily.
...to be honest, this is probably evidence that I was trying to convince someone of ANYTHING when I haven't been sleeping more than five hours at a stretch for several days. Let's drop it until my work week is back in full swing and I can try to parse my own arguments without getting cross-eyed.
Question: Has anyone been taking pains to keep the cache of booze a secret from Gorax? I'm assuming not, but I need to ask.
Not especially, although Sia didn't say anything openly about it either.
Ditto for Cal. He's not going to hide something that may provoke a strong reaction from a friend, but he's not going to bring it up, either. Cal's not a strong drinker, anyway. He mostly drinks water, or fruit juice if such a luxury is available. Rotten, processed fruit juice seems somewhat against the natural order of things to him, although he'll indulge to be polite.
Strangely, he has no such problem with rotten, processed animal juice (aka milk -> cheese). Possibly because cheese has no mind-altering effects.
Well if you aren't keeping it a secret, then I'm going to assume it's mentioned when you're talking about the loot. Especially since Sia is talking about bringing it along with them.
Eh...the more I read, the more of a stretch I find it to call Erastil a "nature diety" per se. He's very much a god of civilization, just one of the smaller, rural civilization that has to be concerned with nature. Since weak alcohol will, at times, be the only safe thing for a community to drink, he's probably got no opinion on regular indulgence as long as it doesn't interfere in day-to-day life.
Eh...the more I read, the more of a stretch I find it to call Erastil a "nature diety" per se. He's very much a god of civilization, just one of the smaller, rural civilization that has to be concerned with nature. Since weak alcohol will, at times, be the only safe thing for a community to drink, he's probably got no opinion on regular indulgence as long as it doesn't interfere in day-to-day life.
I didn't say Erastil was the reason for Cal's views on alcohol. In fact, they're a copy of my own views. Alcohol is just weird. Cheese can at least be explained by carrying milk in bags made from animal stomachs.
.... *Rereads what you wrote, rereads what she wrote* .... *Crickets chirp.*
....okay, nobody listen to me until I've had a solid eight hours of sleep! ^^;;;
I'd just like to throw out a congrats on over 600 posts to the IC board. And still going strong. :)
I also just wanted to give a reminder of what "quests" you have yet.
-You've been asked by Oleg to retrieve Svetlana's wedding ring. Norbert told you that the bandits had it stolen from them by mites. He knows where their lair is, but none of the bandits wanted to go in and get the stolen stolen goods cause it wasn't worth the trouble.
-You've been asked by Svetlana to get moon radishes. Tyg and Perlivash told you about where to find them but that kobolds like to harvest them as well.
-Jhod has asked Cal to keep an eye out for an old temple to Erastil somewhere in the Narlmarches, guarded by a bear.
-Oleg told you about an old hermit that lives to the east. He's a good potion maker who has traded at the post from time to time.
I know you have a lot of leads and I'm trying not to overload you. This should tell you just how much there is to do in just this area. :)
Also, it looks like we may have dropped a post. However, unless someone has something to add, I think we're done here anyway.
You're not leaving us too are you Gorax? :)
I'm waiting for any response to Gorx smashing the booze you had wanted to bring with you. Course if no one cares, I'll just move along. Well, after I know if Gorax is coming.
Erm, I wasn't really sure how - the manner of that post doesn't leave a heck of a lot of opportunity.
Again, you aren't leaving us are you Gorax?
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Again, you aren't leaving us are you Gorax?
Nope, but Gorax has just lost the person he had most in common with re morality and views etc, so he's doing the man thing and metaphorically finding his cave to make sense of the world. Hoping Yossain will return back and giving some time to do so. I know in reality he won't, but Gorax doesn't have the advantage of reading this thread. I thought Gorax made it clear he would stay at Oleg's for 7 days.
The alcohol thing is in keeping with his background and he's not being vindictive or anything. He would have done it back at the bandits camp or anywhere once he realised they had been carrying the liquor.
Oh, I knew about the alcohol thing and I loved it. I was just wondering about the wandering off. So do you want us to continue and come back after 7 days for you? I hate to leave you behind but I don't think anyone else is willing to wait a week even IC. It's up to you.
Sia won't be willing to wait a week and is really planning, with any luck, to be out considerably longer than that.
I'm honestly at a bit of a loss on how to respond to Gorax' last pose, and given the infrequency of posts maybe it might be best to assume introductions and briefing have been done in the background and forward to getting underway again?
Not that I dislike interacting with anyone present, but if we're going at a rate of one pose or comment per day then a simple back and forth chat could easily take a month...
Yeah, Cal's not going to sit around on his duff for a week, either. He'll try to convince Gorax to come back out with the group a few ways:
But if none of that works, then I guess we leave Gorax behind and he gets to either try to catch up with us without having any idea where we are, or gets to wait on his duff at the fort for us to come back, which could be weeks from the time we leave. Even if not, it's likely to be a month or more in real life time.
Well I posted vague enough that Gorax can go either way. No one necessarily needs to post a response to mine, I just thought I'd leave a gap in case someone wanted to. I'll continue it tomorrow.
Well I've downloaded my copy of the APG, should be getting the hard copy in a few days, and I just wanted to let everyone know that I'm more than willing to try out pretty much anything in it. Specifically, if you see something in it that you like for your character but would require some changes, I'm more than willing to work to accommodate those changes, especially seeing as we're all still 1st lvl. I know Sia was interested in using the Oracle, so I'll be working with her on that, but if anyone wants to use a racial trait variant, or a class variant, just let me know and we'll work it out.
I won't get my copy of the APG until the 4th when I can buy the PDF :( And I have to say, I'm not happy about what they did to the Inquisitor according to the preview and errata threads. It seems like a really hasty, last minute, not well thought out change to me.
I won't get my copy of the APG until the 4th when I can buy the PDF :( And I have to say, I'm not happy about what they did to the Inquisitor according to the preview and errata threads. It seems like a really hasty, last minute, not well thought out change to me.
I haven't read through the Inquisitor yet, but I can tell you that if you feel strongly enough about it that you want to alter your class, say to a ranger of some kind, I'd be fine with that.
I won't get my copy of the APG until the 4th when I can buy the PDF :( And I have to say, I'm not happy about what they did to the Inquisitor according to the preview and errata threads. It seems like a really hasty, last minute, not well thought out change to me.I haven't read through the Inquisitor yet, but I can tell you that if you feel strongly enough about it that you want to alter your class, say to a ranger of some kind, I'd be fine with that.
I'll reserve final judgment (no pun intended, heh) until I can look over everything in the APG. Very likely I'll stick with Inquisitor, though. I still like the class, I just think the change to Judgments were dumb.
I'll pick up the PDF when it comes available next week. From what Sia's told me, there might be a few interesting bits for Kyrie but that'll be easier to figure out once I can actually read the thing for myself.
Rebuild idea: I'd like to drop Persuasive for Cosmopolitan and add Bluff and Diplomacy to my class skill list. As for what languages I'd like to add...uhm...not sure yet.
Is anyone else tempted to respond to Miracle M...... the crazy potion hermit, "We're the Brute Squad"?
Sorry, can't help but see Billy Crystal, here.
Is anyone else tempted to respond to Miracle M...... the crazy potion hermit, "We're the Brute Squad"?
Sorry, can't help but see Billy Crystal, here.
Well thanks, Cal. I take that as a compliment. :)
FYI, Gen Con trip starts tomorrow. I might get a post on Wednesday, maybe on Friday depending on how things pan out. If not, earliest to dead-expect me back is Sunday night.
Finally managed to purchase the APG PDF. I've been reading through it, and I think the Swashbuckler rogue variant looks interesting /and/ matches what I had in mind for Kyrie better than the straight Rogue. I'll look things over just a bit more, though.
Yeah, I got my APG PDF the minute it became available (well, minus the time it spent to actually buy it) this morning. For the record, Atapax, Cal will stay as an Inquisitor. I might change his spells around a little bit though, with your permission. There's some cool Inquisitor spells, and I dunno that divine favor will ever see much use with its standard action cast time and rounds/level duration.
Finally managed to purchase the APG PDF. I've been reading through it, and I think the Swashbuckler rogue variant looks interesting /and/ matches what I had in mind for Kyrie better than the straight Rogue. I'll look things over just a bit more, though.
I thought the same when I glanced over it. I'd be fine with that change.
For the record, Atapax, Cal will stay as an Inquisitor. I might change his spells around a little bit though, with your permission.
Again, no problem whatsoever with that.
BTW, what about switching my feat out?
Sorry.. Yes, that's fine. :)
Taking the OOC discussion to the OOC thread...
I'm honestly not sure what all the violence is about, either. I could see a little push to get him back outside or whatever, but a gutpunch made me a bit confused.
When I said 'message' I meant just that whether she hit him or not, he'd know that she was mad at him, not necessarily that he'd know why.
I realize that the first reaction might be to hit her back, but for the sake of keeping this from escalating, I'd ask if perhaps you could just have him dodge it, look surprised and angry, then stalk out. I know this might not be completely IC for him, but it would help to prevent a mess while we sort stuff out OOCly and help us continue with the RP.
I do realize that it's your char though and I will roll with whatever you post.
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I have no idea how Sia could have heard anything outside, there were no raised voices, in fact I expected it to be the opposite with voices lowered to be more menacing. Other than Sia hitting him, that was the only thing which makes him think she's a problem with him, or just is frustrated at something. It makes no sense to me.
Anyway I have replied in the game thread in what I hope will allow the game to continue.
I have no idea how Sia could have heard anything outside, there were no raised voices, in fact I expected it to be the opposite with voices lowered to be more menacing. Other than Sia hitting him, that was the only thing which makes him think she's a problem with him, or just is frustrated at something. It makes no sense to me.
Anyway I have replied in the game thread in what I hope will allow the game to continue.
Actually Gorax, I think you have me to blame for that. I was the one who posted hearing the argument first. I could have sworn there were some exclamation points in there, but going back and re-reading it, I don't find any. I don't even find subtext saying anyone raised their voice. I apologize and thank you for not escalating it.