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Some of these are iffy for me but I could of sworn it was the Berenstein bears. I've always ha a solid memory too. Really messing with me
What are your takes on it.
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I also remember it as sex in the city, I remember Mr. monopoly monocle but only in early versions of the game. I do vaguely remember seeing a pikachu with the black part on his tail, I don't remember c-3p0 having a silver leg. I defintely remember the lines life is like a box of chocolate. and hello Clarice but the hello Clarice could be from seeing parodies of it. Definitely mirror mirror and jiffy I always assumed they just shortened it to Jiff in later years. all the other ones always seemed that way to me or I'm not sure enough to say one way or the other.
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Bud lite and febreeze and I do fill like I read in a history book when I was real young that nelson Mandela died in prison.
I am a psych grad so I know how f-ed up memory is but man that stuff is so mind boggling. especially to have such a clear memory of some of it.
What really I'm the only one interested in this?
No... just don't have anything to contribute. Wasn't aware of C3P0's silver leg.
I at least remember them changing han lol
I don't know that I can prescribe to the the multi-dimension theory however if it was a thing it would make since to me that dimensions that are very similar to ours would be "closet" to us therefore more likely for a collision but the changes would be less noticeable because of how much alike it is.
I used to have Bernstein (google says I spelled that right HA) books I wish I knew where they were.
Makes me jealous of people with photographic memories but it does seem that it usually comes with a cost.
Yeah every time I've seen it portrayed it has definitely seemed like more of downside then a positive.
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Lots of those points are easily explainable - the human memory if much less perfect and its really extremely easy to remember if there was "a" and "the", "in" and "and" and statistically there will be many people who remembered it wrong.
Point 3. I am one of the people who "inaccurately" remember "We are the champions" ending with "Of the world!"
Guess what... It's not Mandela Effect at all. It's called, "different recordings". Freddie Mercury did end the 1985 Wembles Stadion version of "We are the champions" that way.
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Lots of those points are easily explainable - the human memory if much less perfect and its really extremely easy to remember if there was "a" and "the", "in" and "and" and statistically there will be many people who remembered it wrong.
Point 3. I am one of the people who "inaccurately" remember "We are the champions" ending with "Of the world!"
Guess what... It's not Mandela Effect at all. It's called, "different recordings". Freddie Mercury did end the 1985 Wembles Stadion version of "We are the champions" that way.
... but not everyone's heard that one time version.
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I was thinking It was the one I heard from the ending of highlander Imma look that up later.
Nope. I just don't have much to add. :)
EDIT: also, my internet is lousy, and sometimes it takes me a while to get things going properly.
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By the time I got to the end of this thread, I could swear it had something to do with mandalas. Like... maybe memory is a temporary, easily erased construction similar to the sand mandalas created by certain Buddhists? Yeah... that sounds plausible. Let's go with that.
The Mandala Effect.
What really I'm the only one interested in this?
I had a whole article devoted to the Shazam controversy in one of my commie friends, but now I can't find it.
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There are a few obvious categories to these things:
1. Most of the movie lines people get wrong is because they've become pop-culture catch-phrases. Decades of people repeating them incorrectly has ingrained the incorrect version in people's memories (i.e., thry're not so much misremembering the movie line as correctly remembering the garbled catch-phrase it became). It's like a game of "telephone."
2. A lot of the other ones are just people reading carelessly. If I write "The quick red fox jomped over the brown cow" in fancy colored script, probably 50-90% of the readers won't notice the typo.
3. The remainder are just mixing things up. There's a 90s Disney movie called "Sinbad" that features a genie, there's a 90s comedian called Sinbad -- voila. Likewise with a guy in an old-fashioned black hat -- easy to mix up the Monopoly guy with Mr. Peanut and mentally create an unholy hybrid of the two.
On a side note, I feel kind of sad that I didn't misremember any of the things listed. Then again, for years I was convinced that Harry Truman died in a Mt. St. Helens eruption -- no idea where that incorrect factoid originated.
Then again, for years I was convinced that Harry Truman died in a Mt. St. Helens eruption -- no idea where that incorrect factoid originated.
I don't know, but it's awesome. This needs to be a movie. I can totally see Harry up there giving that magma hell!
Mrs. Gersen is convinced beyond any possible doubt that her favorite candy is called "Reesy Cups." I've showed her the actual packaging and pointed out R-E-E-S-E-'-S, letter by letter, and she still insists that she was reading R-E-E-S-Y, or maybe R-E-E-S-I-E.
I wonder whether the people who think they remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison are mixing him up with some other anti-apartheid activist such as Steve Biko, who did die in police custody in the late 1970s?
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I wonder whether the people who think they remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison are mixing him up with some other anti-apartheid activist such as Steve Biko, who did die in police custody in the late 1970s?
It seems likely. Peter Gabriel even had a song about Biko on one of his many self-titled albums in the '80s.
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Well, Kim Il Sung is still president of North Korea.
Sherlock Holmes never said "Elementary, my dear Watson,"
There's an interesting book called Contrary to Popular Belief, by Joey Green. It's a nice read.
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To be pedantic, Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock never said that. Several cinematic versions have uttered the phrase, starting with Clive Brock's The Return of Sherlock Holmes but perhaps most famously by Basil Rathbone's Sherlock in The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes.
Nowhere in Greek Mythology does it say Atlas carries the world on his shoulders. He holds up the sky.
Hercules in the Roman Name, the actual Greek version is Heracles. Heracles' mother found out the father was Zeus, and named the child 'Glory of Hera' to prevent her anger.
To be pedantic, Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock never said that. Several cinematic versions have uttered the phrase, starting with Clive Brock's The Return of Sherlock Holmes but perhaps most famously by Basil Rathbone's Sherlock in The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes.
Sure, and he did once say "Elementary" to Watson in the books, but never the last part there.
As a fellow psych grad I think they're interesting, certainly, but more as a "hey, did you know this cool fact?" sort of trivia thing. Fun and largely harmless factoids to bust out at parties or on first dates, but ultimately just one of the vagaries of the human mind.
That's not an effort to disparage your own interest of course. I think tons of things the human brain does are fascinating and would love to wax philosophical about them for hours if I could - my friends though? Usually not so much.
The phenomena that I find particularly disturbing isn't necessarily Mandela Effects, but it's close. People who misremember key moments in their own personal lives and, over time and as a a result of continually retelling themselves these false/revised histories, come to believe them as reality. That old adage of "everyone remembers where they were when they heard about JFK's assassination/the Challenger explosion/9/11"? Nope. Sorry, those crystal clear flashbulb memories are just as susceptible to self-deception as any other. There's a statistically significant chance that, in fact, every single person is remembering these events incorrectly. Think you know where you were and what you were doing when you heard about the Twin Towers? You're probably wrong.
That's spooky.
I don't know. It's possible. But I have a pretty clear memory of an 8:00 AM (Central) Calculus II test (special integrations of trig functions) and someone getting up and leaving very upset in the middle of the test (I have no idea if that was related, but the timeline seems correct in retrospect.) Then after class heard some rumblings about a plane hitting the first tower but still very little info. Went to Physics and we covered projectile motion in class. (Instructor made a quip so it stuck) By the time that class was out at 11, the university had canceled classes for the rest of the day.
I mean, I guess it is possible that I filled in those blanks later. The woman who left the exam upset I could have mentally fudged the timeline to make myself believe that there was a correlation. But, for the rest, I don't think so.
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On a side note, I feel kind of sad that I didn't misremember any of the things listed. Then again, for years I was convinced that Harry Truman died in a Mt. St. Helens eruption -- no idea where that incorrect factoid originated.
You're not wrong actually. Harry Truman did die in the Mt. St. Helens eruption.
Harry R. Truman.
"Play it again Sam" is another popular quote that was never actually uttered.Sherlock Holmes never said "Elementary, my dear Watson,"
There's an interesting book called Contrary to Popular Belief, by Joey Green. It's a nice read.
Ditto "Beam me up, Scotty".
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Ditto "Beam me up, Scotty"."Play it again Sam" is another popular quote that was never actually uttered.Sherlock Holmes never said "Elementary, my dear Watson,"
There's an interesting book called Contrary to Popular Belief, by Joey Green. It's a nice read.
What Bogart really said was: "Beam me Scotty. You beamed her. If she can take it, I can take it. Beam me!"
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To be pedantic, Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock never said that. Several cinematic versions have uttered the phrase, starting with Clive Brock's The Return of Sherlock Holmes but perhaps most famously by Basil Rathbone's Sherlock in The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes.
That's what I was talking about -- a lot of misquoted lines turn into catch-phrases and thereby enter the vernacular. People aren't so much misremembering the actual line -- most people have never even read ACD - they're correctly remembering the misquote that became the catch-phrase.
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To be pedantic, Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock never said that. Several cinematic versions have uttered the phrase, starting with Clive Brock's The Return of Sherlock Holmes but perhaps most famously by Basil Rathbone's Sherlock in The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes.That's what I was talking about -- a lot of misquoted lines turn into catch-phrases and thereby enter the vernacular. People aren't so much misremembering the actual line -- most people have never even read ACD - they're correctly remembering the misquote that became the catch-phrase.
It would be interesting to explore if the mis-remembering followed any patterns. For example, the so-called Rule of Three in rhetoric is often an artifact of mis-remembering instead of the original speech (e.g., Churchill's "blood, sweat, and tears" or Hobbes' "nasty, brutish, and short" were both originally longer lists but enter common parlance as tricolons.)
Speaking of misquoting lyrics, I was always amused at what people make of songs when they can't quite make out the actual lyrics. I had a friend who was always singing CCR's "The Bathroom's on the Right" and Robert Palmer's "Might As Well Face It, It's My Dick That You Love." I'm pretty sure the second was intended as a parody. I'm almost equally sure he thought the first one was the actual song.
How do you misremember an entire island? "Oh, yeah, I totally went to Atlantis on vacation when I was six. No, it definitely wasn't Crete. I'm sure the place isn't there any more!"
(Then again, if it was Santorini, they might be remembering correctly. Thera was one hell of an eruption.)
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Speaking of misquoting lyrics, I was always amused at what people make of songs when they can't quite make out the actual lyrics. I had a friend who was always singing CCR's "The Bathroom's on the Right" and Robert Palmer's "Might As Well Face It, It's My Dick That You Love." I'm pretty sure the second was intended as a parody. I'm almost equally sure he thought the first one was the actual song.
I always thought that "Show Must Go On" contains lines "my make up may be faking it, but my smile stays on" until my birthday party last year while I was sitting with a friend and viewing it on YT (with lyrics on-screen).
In fact, I prefer my version to the actual one.
What if Atlantis was another example?
Or the great flood from so many cultures for which there is no geological proof?
None of it falls under Mandela Effect because those are not cases of false memories.
The notion that Atlantis and other fringe ideas are just bleeding in from the alternate realities or are histories retained from before big reshapings of the universe are entertained from time to time and a recurring theme in books and games (GURPS Infinite Worlds have a lot of those), though.
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This has been huge in my life. All the time, people will tell me that they said something to me earlier, but I don't remember it. People used to accuse me of just not listening or not paying attention to them. Finally, I can tell them what's really happening. Their understanding of reality stems from an alternate universe/dimension where they really did tell me, but their dimension merged with mine where they hadn't told me.
That's definitely the most plausible explanation.
This has been huge in my life. All the time, people will tell me that they said something to me earlier, but I don't remember it. People used to accuse me of just not listening or not paying attention to them. Finally, I can tell them what's really happening. Their understanding of reality stems from an alternate universe/dimension where they really did tell me, but their dimension merged with mine where they hadn't told me.
That's definitely the most plausible explanation.
I am on the other side. People are telling me things and later claim that they never said that (and if it was remotely related to their preferences theirs are opposite to what I was told) or don't recall what I said to them indicating that I quantum tunnel to alternate lines easily...
I just log down absolutely everything anyone says to in the future use it against them and destroy them...
I just log down absolutely everything anyone says to in the future use it against them and destroy them...
I used to, but the march of technology makes it difficult to find blank micro cassettes these days. Also, my storage rental is full.
Yeah after everyone is talking about it and how they have their own memories issues it does make me dismiss it more. I will one day find an old Bernstein bear book however So i can prove they changed the name.
Speaking of misquoting lyrics, I was always amused at what people make of songs when they can't quite make out the actual lyrics. I had a friend who was always singing CCR's "The Bathroom's on the Right" and Robert Palmer's "Might As Well Face It, It's My Dick That You Love." I'm pretty sure the second was intended as a parody. I'm almost equally sure he thought the first one was the actual song.I always thought that "Show Must Go On" contains lines "my make up may be faking it, but my smile stays on" until my birthday party last year while I was sitting with a friend and viewing it on YT (with lyrics on-screen).
In fact, I prefer my version to the actual one.
How could you prefer your version to the actual "Inside my heart is breaking, my makeup may be flaking, but my smile still stays on"? It's more profound.
"If it hadn't been for Cotton Eye Joe" ... "Good afternoon <hmm> Cotton Eye Joe" is one of my biggest mishearings. The bad thing is that if you start off with Good afternoon, it is really difficult to hear anything else.
Another one is Demi Lovato's Heart Attack: "You make me glow" which becomes "you make me blow"...