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I have posted on each of the upcoming Gen Con adventures’ product pages—both for Season 7 and Season 8 adventures—with a list of what existing map products each one uses. I am also posting that information here in its entirety. If you are a Gen Con GM running one or more of these upcoming adventures, please check the respective spoiler for map information. Also note the following:
— The Honor’s Echo quest tables at Gen Con will have maps provided by Paizo.
— With the exception of Honor’s Echo, Angels’ Flight, and The Cosmic Captive, each of the adventures has a custom map component.
The adventure also makes use of the Azlant Ridge map from Pathfinder Society Scenario #2–02.
This adventure features only a custom, full-page map.
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Maps Appearing in #8–00: The Cosmic Captive:
13 different maps for the multi-tier special? Do all tiers need all the maps or are the encounter sites different depending on tier? If the former, is there time to visit all those maps? If the latter, can we get the map list broken out by tier so the GMs know which ones they'll need? Otherwise it could be quite expensive to obtain all the necessary maps.
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Maps Appearing in #8–00: The Cosmic Captive:13 different maps for the multi-tier special? Do all tiers need all the maps or are the encounter sites different depending on tier? If the former, is there time to visit all those maps? If the latter, can we get the map list broken out by tier so the GMs know which ones they'll need? Otherwise it could be quite expensive to obtain all the necessary maps.
Thank you, Bob, i was wondering the same thing.
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The adventure has some similarities to #6–00: Legacy of the Stonelords, insomuch as the PCs get to decide to choose what route they take to reach a goal. There are several maps that everyone will use (Hill Country and Tech Dungeon)) and others that everyone has a good chance of using (Cave Chambers, Evil Ruins, and Twisting Caverns). The others are split between several different possible routes.
That is to say the maps are broken up by route, not by subtier.
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I've added the information to my list of flip mats and map packs used in scenarios.
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I'm not running 8-00, but it seems to me that out of fairness, if we are suggesting the GMs have $195 in maps to deliver an A+ experience, then we really should be charging more for those slots and compensating the GMs with either more store credit and/or free maps. Just a thought for next year.
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I'm not running 8-00, but it seems to me that out of fairness, if we are suggesting the GMs have $195 in maps to deliver an A+ experience, then we really should be charging more for those slots and compensating the GMs with either more store credit and/or free maps. Just a thought for next year.
There are alternatives to buying the maps. A single roll of gaming paper is $4 plus shipping with a bit extra for some markers, and will likely cover all the maps for the special and then some. Buying the maps may be the easiest option, but it is not the only option.
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I didn't say it was the only option. But I was referring to the numerous times GMs are asked to bring their "A game" to Gen Con, and that the definition of "A game" by many people includes not having hand-drawn maps. I remember Mike Brock posting that he would rather see someone using the wrong printed map than a hand-drawn map at a con. I personally don't think that is a fair standard, but it is a standard I've seen other people espouse, and have felt the peer pressure of it. When I GMed at Gen Con 2 years ago, I had someone trying to force their printed map on me when they saw I had a hand-drawn map, but I refused because I had props that took the place of many of the decorations on the map, which absolutely was the right call when one of the props was a taxidermied dinosaur.
Anyway, I would be happy to pay more per ticket if it helped the GMs prepare for these big events in style.
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What would it take to have a link to a page on the web site with a printable letter that gives permission to print the PDFs we purchase for personal use? Every time I go to Fed-Ex/Kinkos to print a map I have to search the website for the one reference in the FAQ page and email that link to Fed-Ex, then help them search the page again to find the permission reference because they won't keep the page on file.
Just a link to a formal letter saying that we have permission to print a copy for personal use instead of a bullet hidden in the rather huge FAQ page. It would really help if I could just print an official permission letter because they won't accept a screen captured print of the section of the FAQ.
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If you are running 7-99, Paizo just put the map pack you need on "clearance" for $3!
(Probably not the best business decision, considering how many people will want it this year.)
http://paizo.com/store/sale/clearance/paizoClearance/mapPacks
Alas, I already ordered mine through my local game store. :(
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I didn't say it was the only option. But I was referring to the numerous times GMs are asked to bring their "A game" to Gen Con, and that the definition of "A game" by many people includes not having hand-drawn maps. I remember Mike Brock posting that he would rather see someone using the wrong printed map than a hand-drawn map at a con. I personally don't think that is a fair standard, but it is a standard I've seen other people espouse, and have felt the peer pressure of it. When I GMed at Gen Con 2 years ago, I had someone trying to force their printed map on me when they saw I had a hand-drawn map, but I refused because I had props that took the place of many of the decorations on the map, which absolutely was the right call when one of the props was a taxidermied dinosaur.
Anyway, I would be happy to pay more per ticket if it helped the GMs prepare for these big events in style.
Really??? Usually the response to my hand-drawn maps is "Wow" rather than disdain. But I've never GMed at GenCon, so I wouldn't know.
Hmm
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I didn't say it was the only option. But I was referring to the numerous times GMs are asked to bring their "A game" to Gen Con, and that the definition of "A game" by many people includes not having hand-drawn maps. I remember Mike Brock posting that he would rather see someone using the wrong printed map than a hand-drawn map at a con. I personally don't think that is a fair standard, but it is a standard I've seen other people espouse, and have felt the peer pressure of it. When I GMed at Gen Con 2 years ago, I had someone trying to force their printed map on me when they saw I had a hand-drawn map, but I refused because I had props that took the place of many of the decorations on the map, which absolutely was the right call when one of the props was a taxidermied dinosaur.
Anyway, I would be happy to pay more per ticket if it helped the GMs prepare for these big events in style.
Really??? Usually the response to my hand-drawn maps is "Wow" rather than disdain. But I've never GMed at GenCon, so I wouldn't know.
Hmm
You have obviously never seen me draw a map. There is a reason I print most everything.
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I have posted on most of the upcoming adventures’ product pages—both for Season 8 and Season 9 adventures—with a list of what published map products each one uses. I’m also posting that information here. If you are a Gen Con GM running one or more of these upcoming scenarios, please check the respective spoiler for map information.
Also note that nearly all of these adventures include a custom map component—roughly the size of a Pathfinder Flip-Mat.
Pathfinder Society Special #9–00 as well as Pathfinder Society Scenarios #9–01 and #9–03 are still in development, but I’ll post an update here and on their respective product pages once those map lists are finalized.
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Also note that nearly all of these adventures include a custom map component—roughly the size of a Pathfinder Flip-Mat.
** spoiler omitted **
Pathfinder Society Special #9–00 as well as Pathfinder Society Scenarios #9–01 and #9–03 are still in development, but I’ll post an update here and on their respective product pages once those map lists are finalized.
Figures. The adventure I'm running (9-01) is "still in development". Well I hope it develops so that I can use some of my Dwarven Forge dungeon tiles. Or maybe something I could easily create some terrain for.
Thanks for the update (and tread necromancy).
Venture-Captain, Missouri—Cape Girardeau
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I have posted on most of the upcoming adventures’ product pages—both for Season 8 and Season 9 adventures—with a list of what published map products each one uses. I’m also posting that information here. If you are a Gen Con GM running one or more of these upcoming scenarios, please check the respective spoiler for map information.
Also note that nearly all of these adventures include a custom map component—roughly the size of a Pathfinder Flip-Mat.
Thank you for this list, John. Please update us as the other scenarios being offered finish in development! I, for one, am interested to see what maps are being used in the Specials other than 8-99, since I am running all of them.
Venture-Lieutenant, Netherlands—Leiden
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If you have a regular hex mat (like the Chessex double-sided mats) you can use that. It just won't look as pretty.
I'm just gonna shell out for the Paizo version - I've found those tolerate more different kinds of markers, and that convenience is worth something to me.
Would be neat if Paizo made a hex mat for Pathfinder/Kingmaker purposes as well.
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Here are some map updates.
Pathfinder Society Special #9–00 is the only adventure outstanding.
Paizo is providing maps for our several quest demo tables for each campaign (both House of Harmonious Wisdom and Into the Unknown). We're also bringing enough copies of Starfinder Flip-Mat: Basic Starfield and "Starfinder Flip-Mat: Basic Terrain" for all our GMs to use when we're running tables of the new Starfinder Quests on Thursday. These maps will be available to check out for later Starfinder games at Gen Con, so if you need to borrow a hex map for that weekend, we can help you. Note, however, that this only extends to the two Starfinder Flip-Mats, not to any Pathfinder Flip-Mats that appear in Starfinder Society scenarios.
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My map list has been updated with this information, and with tabs added for Starfinder Society.
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That should represent the last of the map notes for the Gen Con 2017 adventures.
Development-wise, everything's moving along at a good pace so that our Gen Con Starfinder Society GMs should be seeing adventures land in their downloads at the end of this week. Pathfinder Society GMs should see their adventures landing in downloads next week. If something's done a little earlier, we'll drop it in download folders a little earlier.
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** spoiler omitted **
That should represent the last of the map notes for the Gen Con 2017 adventures.
John - will there be custom maps for #9-00 in addition to the ones listed?
Thanks tons in advance!
All of the adventures debuting at Gen Con have a custom half-page map, two custom half-page maps, or a custom full-page map except Pathfinder Society Scenario #9–02 and the Starfinder Society quests.
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If we order the flip mats and Map Packs for the scenario's listed above, are they viable for pick up at GenCon with our subscriptions?
I'm not a good authority on whether that's an option. I recommend asking the same question in the Customer Service thread.