From the 2012-2013 catalogue, it appears that Baba Yaga is late for her 100-year Golarion visit and Irrisen's unnatural winter is spreading. Further, it's implied that Elvanna will be the BBEG. Elvanna is Irrisen's current queen.Hmmm...
That is quite the unusual development, isn't it?
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Neil,
Do you know if events from The Witchwar Legacy will carry over into this AP? The mention of Elvanna got me thinking.
I've considered running Witchwar for my players using their Kingmaker characters, then allowing them to experience the results of their actions through new characters in Reign of Winter.
Any thoughts?
I know. But I'm not at liberty to say. As a MWAHAHAHahaha'er from further up-thread, I've been asked to simmer down. And that I shall. Stay tuned, though. I'm certain you'll have an answer to your question in due time. You could also try the "Ask James Jacobs" thread and see if he's willing to shed light on that subject at this stage of the game. Or one of the developers might chime in here...
I know. But I'm not at liberty to say. As a MWAHAHAHahaha'er from further up-thread, I've been asked to simmer down. And that I shall. Stay tuned, though. I'm certain you'll have an answer to your question in due time. You could also try the "Ask James Jacobs" thread and see if he's willing to shed light on that subject at this stage of the game. Or one of the developers might chime in here...
No problem - it's a ways off anyway. I was curious, because Shattered Star was the first AP to assume other AP's had taken place (and had specific results) - so I wondered if RoW would assume Witchwar Legacy's outcome.
Stay tuned True Believers...
im guessing the rasputin part will be about a essentially unkillable foe. Torch him and hammer the body into tiny bits.. it will do no good :p
So while keeping the regeneration in check with constant beatings of the corpse... its research time... while allies and similar effects are busy teleporting in.
until they can finally find the egg in the egg in the chicken in the hare in a chest on a island in the ocean in a demiplane under the queens bed.. :D
I always give Paizo the benefit of the doubt though.
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So, Heldren ("Helgen?") isn't on any map as of this point?
And is it designed so that it could be anywhere that a DM wants to start? (Varisia, Nirmathas, River Kingdoms, Kyonin, Andoran, Nidal, Cheliax, Taldor, etc....)
That's pretty cool -- great decision. Heldren is small and generic enough that DMs can fit it in any of several Avistan regions -- and isn't on any official map so we can do what feels best for us individually.
Or,... is it going to be placed somewhere specifically in Avistan (but made generically and small enough that a DM could easily remove it and put it elsewhere? (also good design)
What about Waldsby?
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A couple of things came up in the GenCon secrets panel this year. Offhand:
- Despite Rasputin being the Mad Monk, he may not have any monk levels
- There is also some planehopping
- Everyone's speculation about the artifact's identity is correct
- There were some hints about the hut having its own personality or at least agenda
- The hut is the spine binding together much of the AP, similarly to the ship in Skull and Shackles
- There's some about the hut in Artifacts and Legends
- The planethopping is to a planet *ahem* associated with long winters
It's been over a month, so some details might be scrambled, but I remember all of that pretty clearly. I also clearly remember it sounds awesome.
Cheers!
Landon
This is the next AP I am looking forward to, after Skulls & Shackles and Shattered Star both fell/fall flat to me.
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So, Heldren ("Helgen?") isn't on any map as of this point?
And is it designed so that it could be anywhere that a DM wants to start? (Varisia, Nirmathas, River Kingdoms, Kyonin, Andoran, Nidal, Cheliax, Taldor, etc....)
That's pretty cool -- great decision. Heldren is small and generic enough that DMs can fit it in any of several Avistan regions -- and isn't on any official map so we can do what feels best for us individually.
Or,... is it going to be placed somewhere specifically in Avistan (but made generically and small enough that a DM could easily remove it and put it elsewhere? (also good design)
What about Waldsby?
Heldren will be placed somewhere specific in Avistan, but it will be designed to be easily fit almost anywhere else in the Inner Sea region if a GM wants to change it.
Waldsby's location is set.
Neither of them have yet appeared on a map, just as there are many small villages and hamlets on Golarion that don't show up on maps due to their size.
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The names of the adventure really get me excited about this AP!
They are sometimes crazy (Rasputin has to die!) and sometime the best name for an adventure I have ever heard (Maiden, Mother, Crone), and sometimes just good old fashioned cool (Snows of Summer and the rest of 'em, really). While of course these are only names, the way they 100% capture me hints that the guys writing this AP are thinking on the same frequency as me. Mix that with the standard Paizo High Quelity Garntee and you get a brew of excitment!
im guessing the rasputin part will be about a essentially unkillable foe. Torch him and hammer the body into tiny bits.. it will do no good :p
So while keeping the regeneration in check with constant beatings of the corpse... its research time... while allies and similar effects are busy teleporting in.
until they can finally find the egg in the egg in the chicken in the hare in a chest on a island in the ocean in a demiplane under the queens bed.. :D
I never really thought about it before, but this sounds like a lich's M.O. :o
im guessing the rasputin part will be about a essentially unkillable foe. Torch him and hammer the body into tiny bits.. it will do no good :p
So while keeping the regeneration in check with constant beatings of the corpse... its research time... while allies and similar effects are busy teleporting in.
until they can finally find the egg in the egg in the chicken in the hare in a chest on a island in the ocean in a demiplane under the queens bed.. :D
I never really thought about it before, but this sounds like a lich's M.O. :o
Look, the idea that Rasputin is a lich is patently ridiculous!
(Also, Koschei makes a lot of sense.)
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I found some MST3K films that will get you in the mood to have fun on this campaign, and give you the feel of what it is like to play in a slavic themed fairy tale.
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Bah to MST3K and animated Anastasia cartoons... how about something grittier?
To each their own. Some DMs want to laugh and joke around with their players, and some want to have it dark and gritty so as to make their stories more realistic. But I say you can have fun with both. :)
though you guys did lay the seeds for the Anastasia crtoon comment due to both the use of Rasputin and the comment made by Bellona.
the human mind can work in mysterious ways.
By the way, I always felt the Witchwar Module would be a perfect sequel for the adventure path. Do the developers have any comments on how the AP and the Module could work together? will their be comments on this in the last AP of Reign of Winter?
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By the way, I always felt the Witchwar Module would be a perfect sequel for the adventure path. Do the developers have any comments on how the AP and the Module could work together? will their be comments on this in the last AP of Reign of Winter?
We'll be mentioning more, I believe, in the adventure path, but the assumption we're going with is that the events in "The Witchwar Legacy" module take place before "Reign of Winter" begins... it's more of a prequel than a sequel, in other words.
Although with some tinkering, it could probably work as a sequel, the storyline of Reign of Winter works better if they occur after the events in Witchwar play out. (Although knowledge of Witchwar is certainly not required to enjoy Reign of Winter!)
Bah to MST3K and animated Anastasia cartoons... how about something grittier?
Weird. James mentioned Hellboy last night as well.
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Bah to MST3K and animated Anastasia cartoons... how about something grittier?
Pass. Liked this more.
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By the way, I always felt the Witchwar Module would be a perfect sequel for the adventure path. Do the developers have any comments on how the AP and the Module could work together? will their be comments on this in the last AP of Reign of Winter?We'll be mentioning more, I believe, in the adventure path, but the assumption we're going with is that the events in "The Witchwar Legacy" module take place before "Reign of Winter" begins... it's more of a prequel than a sequel, in other words.
Although with some tinkering, it could probably work as a sequel, the storyline of Reign of Winter works better if they occur after the events in Witchwar play out. (Although knowledge of Witchwar is certainly not required to enjoy Reign of Winter!)
As James said, the assumption is that "The Witchwar Legacy" takes place before Reign of Winter, but Pathfinder #67 does include a sidebar addressing the module and how it connects to the AP. There is brief mention of using the module to follow the AP, as well.
Bah to MST3K and animated Anastasia cartoons... how about something grittier?
Bah to your bah! You started it, what with the lich-like traits and the Rasputin, and the Russia! :)
(Nice links, everyone.)
Pass. Liked this more.Bah to MST3K and animated Anastasia cartoons... how about something grittier?
That was an amazing book. I loved every daggum page. Well... almost every daggum page. But still, it should be read by everyone everywhere for all time.
Weird. James mentioned Hellboy last night as well.
Which can only mean that, instead of a fiction story running through the AP, we'll be getting a Mike Mignola Pathfinder comic!!!!
(Hey, a guy can dream, can't he? And it's not like Mignola's never tackled swords and sorcery fantasy before.)
I usually with the permission of my players who are usually busy, create characters for them to use who fit the campaign. Origionally I was going to use,
Winter witch in training,
Ulfen warrior of the raven guard,
Mammoth rider,
And a additional 4th character,
But with new developments, I will need to replace the mammoth rider with a gunslinger, and add an alchemist. To get the most out of this campaign.
P.S. I am a huge fan of the strange and experimental so this campaign will awesome if it is done right and has a strong enough connection between adventures. Unlike the transition between adventures 2 and 3 of Second Darkness, which jumps from one theme to another in my opinion.
Plus this hut and these adventures remind me of doctor who. Just make one of the characters an eccentric immortal and were in for a Russian doctor who.
We'll be mentioning more, I believe, in the adventure path, but the assumption we're going with is that the events in "The Witchwar Legacy" module take place before "Reign of Winter" begins... it's more of a prequel than a sequel, in other words.
Although with some tinkering, it could probably work as a sequel, the storyline of Reign of Winter works better if they occur after the events in Witchwar play out. (Although knowledge of Witchwar is certainly not required to enjoy Reign of Winter!)
So, a groups could play The Witchwar Legacy with approproiate Characters and then segue into Reign of Winter, or would that be considered too spoilery?
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So, a groups could play The Witchwar Legacy with approproiate Characters and then segue into Reign of Winter, or would that be considered too spoilery?We'll be mentioning more, I believe, in the adventure path, but the assumption we're going with is that the events in "The Witchwar Legacy" module take place before "Reign of Winter" begins... it's more of a prequel than a sequel, in other words.
Although with some tinkering, it could probably work as a sequel, the storyline of Reign of Winter works better if they occur after the events in Witchwar play out. (Although knowledge of Witchwar is certainly not required to enjoy Reign of Winter!)
Nope; not too much, although they'd not be able to take their Witchwar Characters into Reign of Winter.
Nope; not too much, although they'd not be able to take their Witchwar Characters into Reign of Winter.
So, a groups could play The Witchwar Legacy with approproiate Characters and then segue into Reign of Winter, or would that be considered too spoilery?
Thanks, I'll file that away for later. This might be the right AP to follow up on my Kingmaker campaign which now is close to starting part 6.
Thanks, I'll file that away for later. This might be the right AP to follow up on my Kingmaker campaign which now is close to starting part 6.Nope; not too much, although they'd not be able to take their Witchwar Characters into Reign of Winter.
So, a groups could play The Witchwar Legacy with approproiate Characters and then segue into Reign of Winter, or would that be considered too spoilery?
Agreed. I plan to have the AP start in a small village in my players Kingmaker kingdom. While their KM characters are busy dealing with bigger issues, the new PC's will investigate the portal / weather and be whisked away to their own adventure.
Maybe they will return with knowledge and power that will help turn the tide of the war back home?
I'm really looking forward to this. Rise of the Runelords and Kingmaker are the favorite APs of my group. With Shattered Star and Reign of Winter, I am able to elaborate on what happened to their old characters and allow the new ones to add to their story.
If you want to expand Reign of Winter, don't mind venturing into another RPG and want a fine take on mythic russia, may I recommend Mythic Russia.
Gary McBride
Fire Mountain Games
...Mammoth rider...
But with new developments, I will need to replace the mammoth rider with a gunslinger, and add an alchemist. To get the most out of this campaign.
Aw, poor mammoth rider.
Well I know I'm still planning one for myself. After all how could I resist the urge to play a barely-dressed barbarian woman riding a giant boar now that we've finally got a fully winter-themed AP?
Mammoth Rider can turn into Tank Rider during a certain adventure :D
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...Mammoth rider...
But with new developments, I will need to replace the mammoth rider with a gunslinger, and add an alchemist. To get the most out of this campaign.
Aw, poor mammoth rider.
Well I know I'm still planning one for myself. After all how could I resist the urge to play a barely-dressed barbarian woman riding a giant boar now that we've finally got a fully winter-themed AP?
That barely dressed barbarian woman has a very good chance of scoring a dragon mount* around Book 4. Possibly specifically the kind statted up in Distant Worlds!
*Which means she easily qualifies for a heavy metal album cover.
...Mammoth rider...
But with new developments, I will need to replace the mammoth rider with a gunslinger, and add an alchemist. To get the most out of this campaign.
Aw, poor mammoth rider.
Well I know I'm still planning one for myself. After all how could I resist the urge to play a barely-dressed barbarian woman riding a giant boar now that we've finally got a fully winter-themed AP?
That barely dressed barbarian woman has a very good chance of scoring a dragon mount* around Book 4. Possibly specifically the kind statted up in Distant Worlds!
*Which means she easily qualifies for a heavy metal album cover.
Darn, now I'm torn. I've already thought up a name for my future-boar and everything, but... A dragon?!
...That'll be an extremely difficult choice to make if any of the dragonkin ever decide that they want to team up.
This adventure has recently gone from not particularly interesting to must buy.
Personally, while I know Paizo can't make any references to WotC IP, I'm wondering if there might be some room for me to write in some references to a certain daughter of Baba Yaga from Dungeons and Dragons. Maybe even a visit to Oerth...
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Personally, while I know Paizo can't make any references to WotC IP, I'm wondering if there might be some room for me to write in some references to a certain daughter of Baba Yaga from Dungeons and Dragons. Maybe even a visit to Oerth...
You might want to give The Witchwar Legacy a really close look. ;)
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Darn, now I'm torn. I've already thought up a name for my future-boar and everything, but... A dragon?!
...That'll be an extremely difficult choice to make if any of the dragonkin ever decide that they want to team up.
Yeah, and though I know it's an awful risk to make a character hinging on the notion of getting a dragon-kin mount down the line without it eing guaranteed, it seems like it would be a waste to go to Triaxus and not have that as a supported option.
...Mammoth rider...
But with new developments, I will need to replace the mammoth rider with a gunslinger, and add an alchemist. To get the most out of this campaign.
Aw, poor mammoth rider.
Well I know I'm still planning one for myself. After all how could I resist the urge to play a barely-dressed barbarian woman riding a giant boar now that we've finally got a fully winter-themed AP?
Sejuani?...Mammoth rider...
But with new developments, I will need to replace the mammoth rider with a gunslinger, and add an alchemist. To get the most out of this campaign.
Aw, poor mammoth rider.
Well I know I'm still planning one for myself. After all how could I resist the urge to play a barely-dressed barbarian woman riding a giant boar now that we've finally got a fully winter-themed AP?
Yes indeed (best champion ever).
any word what level these APs will carry the players to?
When's the Player's Guide gonna be out?
Likely in February, same as the first issue. They tend not to jump too far ahead for these things.
I think it is safe to say it will be nippely cold.As cold as a witch's tit?
Don't forget the brass bra!
I have a group ready to rock this AP, hoping to get some Heldren town info to get the pcs settled in for what seems like an eternity. Come on February lets go already.
Likewise. Really looking forward to this.
I'm still pining for the cover of Chapter Two.
I suspect there will be a cool animal with the character on the cover. It kills me that it probably will be a publicly available avatar, cause I want it to be mine alone.. But the Freelance Corp doesn't get that privilege.
I must join the Golem League!
Trust me, I'm just as eager for February as y'all!
Lies! If this were true you would overthrow the tyrrany of your company and release the AP early!