Your Pick for most UNDER-rated RPGs?


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Inspired by this thread I thought I'd ask the opposite question:

In your opinion what are/were the most UNDER-RATED table top RPGs (past or present)?

-Anthrorob


Toon


Buffy the Vampire Slayer

Read more: >D6 Role-Playing in the World of Buffy the Vampire Slayer<


Cold Steel Reign.

Maybe not so much underrated as it is unknown. It's published by Mad Hermit games, and I think their staff consists of like one guy.

Dark Archive

anthrorob wrote:

Inspired by this thread I thought I'd ask the opposite question:

In your opinion what are/were the most UNDER-RATED table top RPGs (past or present)?

-Anthrorob

True20. (And thanks for posting the topic, anthrorob.)


Mayfair exponential growth system

3:16 Carnage among the Stars

Toon

Fading Suns

Sovereign Court

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Other Strangeness. A really fun game that got smacked in the face by that darn 80's cartoon.


Teenagers From Outer Space (Or, as I like to call it "Rumik-World, the RPG")

Alternity (Never got a fair shake, this one)

Dark Archive

Eclipse Phase need a stronger push. great stuff.

Scarab Sages

GURPS, Warhammer FRPG.

Scarab Sages

Wild Talents


jemstone wrote:
Alternity (Never got a fair shake, this one)

+1, and DarkMatter of course!

RuneQuest Deluxe Edition

Not an RPG, but Silent Death.


tdewitt274 wrote:
jemstone wrote:
Alternity (Never got a fair shake, this one)
+1, and DarkMatter of course!

I, for one, loved StarDrive.


Alternity.

Rifts...sure it is by no means perfect but people seem to 'invent' bad stuff about it all the time.

D&D 4th ed...yes that might surprise some of you(specialy with me saying it) but like Rifts there is alot of people who hate it without even knowing anything about it. It was over hyped by the company and really unfairly attacked by some fans.

Edit: Two other games occured to me.

7th Sea...was a really great system and world...personaly it was about 100% better than L5R...yet I guess it was underhyped as they don't piublish it anymore.

Brave New World...the system was ok...but the world was really great.

Shadow Lodge

Basic Roleplaying System

Dark Archive

Alternity, Artesia RPG, Kult (the Metropolis Ltd edition).


golem101 wrote:
Alternity, Artesia RPG, Kult (the Metropolis Ltd edition).

Artesia! I'd nearly forgotten about it. Yes, that was a great game that got thoroughly overlooked.

Here are a few of mine.

Prince Valiant. Fun introductory RPG. What happened to it?

Song of Ice and Fire. It can do an awful lot of things that many RPGs don't even attempt because they're difficult, and it does most of them well.

Blue Planet. The only game books I really regret selling.

Traveller: the New Era. It gets a lot of hate and approbation from veteran Travellers, most of which is undeserved. The rules system is perfectly solid. It's the setting changes that garner the dislike.

King Arthur Pendragon. Not because people don't like it. They just Don't Like It Enough!


SLA Industries.
.

SO much daaaaaaark Sci-Fi potential.

They really failed here, this game was great and should have been epic.

Stupid WOTC, anti-Midas touch; everything they touch turns to s#!7


I really like Shadowrun 4th ed 20th Anniversary edition. So many things that were not even part of daily life when the 1st ed. came out are now part of our daily lives. Really fun game with easy to relate subject.


I have a soft spot for Shadowrun, really liked the universe.

Haven't played it since 2nd ed came out...


I would have to second the choice for GURPS. With the complexity of choices provided by 3.5/D20 (inspired by systems like GURPS), and anything that followed, the supposed complexity of GURPS appears to be on equal ground. The only thing that throws people off is not have pre-defined choices, i.e. classes. The only thing it lacks is the appropriate computer utilities to help the DM. As a player, it is pretty straight forward.


Geez GURPS was popular in this country, had no idea it was under-rated! o.O

Scarab Sages

Another vote for Alternity, in fact Alternity is still my system of choice for most horror and hard sf settings. I dig the published settings, stardrive and dark*matter and I really would have loved to see more then one Gamma World book.running a short Delta Green campaign with Alternity rules and I'm just about to launch a Babylon 5 campaign.
By the way, the Alternityrpg.net site has some cool fan material and the e-book wasrships by Richard Baker.


Grand Magus wrote:

Buffy the Vampire Slayer

Read more: >D6 Role-Playing in the World of Buffy the Vampire Slayer<

** spoiler omitted **

shakes fist


Morgen wrote:
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Other Strangeness. A really fun game that got smacked in the face by that darn 80's cartoon.

Very true. Very true.


jemstone wrote:

Teenagers From Outer Space (Or, as I like to call it "Rumik-World, the RPG")

Alternity (Never got a fair shake, this one)

Never did play Teenagers from Outer Space..I'll have to check it out.


In terms of the answer the question, my own, of course.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

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Star Frontiers (pre-universal table of course).

Especially Knight Hawks being able to integrate a space combat game with the RPG pretty flawlessly.


TORG... so much fun. Another vote for Alternity. Teenagers from Outerspace was a great game to blow off steam. THe original Marvel Superheros FASRIP system...

Liberty's Edge

While I enjoy many systems the one I believe is the most under appreciated is Waste World. Truly a marvelous system that with only one book can allow pcs to be immortal samurai to ravenous mutants to powerful robots and pretty much anything in between.

Sadly it has gone the way of the do do.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

Obvious_Ninja wrote:
TORG... so much fun. Another vote for Alternity. Teenagers from Outerspace was a great game to blow off steam. THe original Marvel Superheros FASRIP system...

I was going to mention FASERIP, but I didn't think of it as underrated :-)

Silver Crusade

I don't know if it really counts as underrated but Legend of the Five Rings doesn't (IMHO) get the profile it deserves.

7th Sea deserved more attention too.


I like a lot of the things i see on this list i will +1

Kult

L5R

and +2

SLA industries!


Matthew Morris wrote:
Obvious_Ninja wrote:
TORG... so much fun. Another vote for Alternity. Teenagers from Outerspace was a great game to blow off steam. THe original Marvel Superheros FASRIP system...
I was going to mention FASERIP, but I didn't think of it as underrated :-)

oh. Hells. Yeah.


FallofCamelot wrote:

I don't know if it really counts as underrated but Legend of the Five Rings doesn't (IMHO) get the profile it deserves.

7th Sea deserved more attention too.

you have got to be kidding me. L5r has one of the most active(if arrogant, at times) communities i have ever seen.

Ooh! D6 star wars was also amazing! And despite the palladium system, I really liked nightbane.

Scarab Sages

There are some conversions floating around (quite obscure and a bit hard to find) to convert Nightbane to the Unisystem. Sure, the magic System is a bit different, but it works really good together, especially with Witchcraft and Armageddon (both from Carella, just like Nightbane).
As far as I know, Witchcraft is still available as a free pdf.
Also, the Unisystem qualifies as another underrated system.

Shadow Lodge

My votes are for TORG, some aspects of Alternity (the StarDrive universe was AWESOME), and my personal favorite...

Over The Edge.

Dark Archive

i'll nominate little fears and fight! rpg


Uchawi wrote:
I would have to second the choice for GURPS. With the complexity of choices.............

Absolutely! This is such a great game - good mechanics and you can can really make unique characters.

GRU


Shifty wrote:
Geez GURPS was popular in this country, had no idea it was under-rated! o.O

I am sure it is popular, but it is all relative to the top rated games which would be pathfinder or 4E, depending on your perspective. But at the same time, I will never claim to have a broad experience with all RPGs, and have not tried some of the other games mentioned.


ShadowcatX wrote:
While I enjoy many systems the one I believe is the most under appreciated is Waste World. Truly a marvelous system that with only one book can allow pcs to be immortal samurai to ravenous mutants to powerful robots and pretty much anything in between.

Please tell me you're kidding. If you're not, I want to know what your take on Synnibar was... ;)

ShadowcatX wrote:
Sadly it has gone the way of the do do.

Most likely due to the fact that they lifted, wholecloth, entire sections of their game from other RPGs (such as their 100% plagiarized section on Cybernetics, taken word for word from RTG's Cyberpunk 2020), and got hit with more than one Cease-and-Desist.

Scarab Sages

Shifty wrote:

SLA Industries.

.

SO much daaaaaaark Sci-Fi potential.

They really failed here, this game was great and should have been epic.

Stupid WOTC, anti-Midas touch; everything they touch turns to s#!7

I forgot about that one. Would love to have tried this one, but the guy running it got orders and moved before we could start a campaign.


Reve de Dragon (Dragon Dream). A french RPG with a very streamlined system, published in the 80's. Basically, the universe is the dream of an omnipotent creature. Some people can use 'magic' (that is, tell the dragon what to dream), with a risk of backlash. Try it if you can.


HoL

Kthulhu wrote:
Basic Roleplaying System

Basic Universal Role Playing System would have been funnier.

Scarab Sages

Shifty wrote:
Geez GURPS was popular in this country, had no idea it was under-rated! o.O

I keep hearing that it's popular, but yet I can't find a group that plays. In fact, I've been the only person in my last couple of gaming groups to actually have played it. They all knew what GURPS was, but kinda in a cousin of my friend's brother-in-law sort of way.


2nd edition Advanced Dungeons and Dragons

There were a few missteps in the update (ranger, some misorganization of spheres) but 2e takes a lot of shots from people that are, I believe, undeserved. The rules are as solid as 1e's, perhaps even a bit better in design of some subsystems like surprise.


Dragonsong wrote:
Mayfair exponential growth system

Yeah, when it came to creating characters, that was the most fun game I ever played. I loved the task resolution system, too. I always got bored of a campaign in that game quickly, but I think that had to do with the genre, not the system.

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

Re: GURPS.

It's my understanding that SJG shot themselves repetedly in the foot when the 4th edition of GURPS came out. They decidd to publish only the hardcover major sourcebooks, with everything else available on-line for amonthly subscription.

However, they also "wipe the slate clean" if you ever lapse in your subscription, for even a day. Severl of my friends, who were big GURPS fans, saw their access to years of archives wiped out because of this policy.

It might be good business sense in the short-term, but it's alienated the serious GURPS fanbase.


Marvel Super Heroes: Super basic, but fun. The best part is there were (perfect!) stats for all heroes and villains, so you could run whatever you wanted.

The Window: Free RPG with limited rules / stats.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Ars Magica by Lion Rampant/White Wolf, Undwerworld by Mayfair Games, Swordbearer by Fantasy Games Unlimited.

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