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Ross Byers wrote:
John Woodford wrote:
And the triceratops is on another plane somewhere, I guess. Now it's *really* confused.
The majority of planes are fairly lethal to appear in unprepared, too.

Hopefully this one's in the plane of the great valley or something.


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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
John Woodford wrote:
And the triceratops is on another plane somewhere, I guess. Now it's *really* confused.
The majority of planes are fairly lethal to appear in unprepared, too.
Hopefully this one's in the plane of the great valley or something.

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strayshift wrote:
Suspect that Elan's asking Roy what to do next is what Tarquin is pissed about as well.

I feel that Tarquin might get angry enough to try and kill Elan. After all, it might be the only way left for him to ensure that their legend goes on forever with all its appropriate drama.

In any case, I feel that Death will be there next strip.


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Since the title of the strip is "Can't help himself"it would appear that Rich is not having Elan deliberately antagonize Tarquin.

Reading through these last few strips what strikes me is that Roy must have hella hit points.


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Adamantine Dragon wrote:
Reading through these last few strips what strikes me is that Roy must have hella hit points.

He is a high-level fighter, and given the abuse he's endured... well throughout the entire comic, I imagine he's got a sizable Con bonus. He's no O-Chul, but he's probably nearing 18 or 20 between his own score and a magic item.

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Ross Byers wrote:
John Woodford wrote:
And the triceratops is on another plane somewhere, I guess. Now it's *really* confused.
The majority of planes are fairly lethal to appear in unprepared, too.

Now I have an image of a confused triceratops drowning in ranch dressing.

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Orthos wrote:
Adamantine Dragon wrote:
Reading through these last few strips what strikes me is that Roy must have hella hit points.
He is a high-level fighter, and given the abuse he's endured... well throughout the entire comic, I imagine he's got a sizable Con bonus. He's no O-Chul, but he's probably nearing 18 or 20 between his own score and a magic item.

Given that Prismatic Spray is a 7th level spell, V has to be at least 13th level, so you have to figure the rest of the group is at least that level, too. Roy's got fighter HP, and probably a decent Con score. He's tough, though it's a safe bet Durkon has the most HP in the group now that he's vamped up.

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IIRC, V has been able to cast prismatic spray since before his temporary apotheosis--he petrified a giant devil with it during the ninja-falls-for-Elan subplot.


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I am sure it ended up in the Beastlands and is all happy.


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Fromper wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Adamantine Dragon wrote:
Reading through these last few strips what strikes me is that Roy must have hella hit points.
He is a high-level fighter, and given the abuse he's endured... well throughout the entire comic, I imagine he's got a sizable Con bonus. He's no O-Chul, but he's probably nearing 18 or 20 between his own score and a magic item.

Given that Prismatic Spray is a 7th level spell, V has to be at least 13th level, so you have to figure the rest of the group is at least that level, too. Roy's got fighter HP, and probably a decent Con score. He's tough, though it's a safe bet Durkon has the most HP in the group now that he's vamped up.

Durkon might have highest Con score while alive but as a 3.5 vampire he would have rather unimpressive 13d12+3 hp (or 14d12+3 or 15d12+3, depending upon exact level) with no adjustment for Charisma (which only applied to undeads with Unholy Toughness special quality introduced for undeads from later books and not regular vampires or liches) - I suspect his hit point total moight have dropped from about 13d8+55... Roy would have equal amount of d10+Con bonus which would probably beat that.

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#928: Go

I admit I don't get the thing about Xykon being chilly.

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"waaaa"

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It's obviously something of a code, but I don't get the reference either.

Edit: Ah, referencing the scarf Myron was wearing.


I'm guessing that by Durkon's reaction (not to mention the fact that the auras are around the head) it's probably some sort of mind-affecting thing - maybe something akin to a Mass Hold Person or something similar, as people seem to be freezing or collapsing in strange postures while Tarquin is holding a confident one (but still seems to be "hit" by it).

I'm also guessing that Laurin's not happy about whatever it's costing her to use it, either, based on her face.

Interesting development to say the least!


A Bluff check to pass on the secret message "Ice the spellcaster?"


Ross Byers wrote:

#928: Go

I admit I don't get the thing about Xykon being chilly.

V must have pulled off a nice "bluff" roll to get that message to Roy. Apparently that comment must have led Roy to ignore Tarquin and attack Miron instead. I can only think it was some reference to the leader being exposed. But I'd be glad if someone can spell that one out for me.

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Hmmm...V failing a Will save seems unlikely. I wonder if the position of his hands on the side of his head means that he made the save. And, if that assumption is correct, then Elan also appears to have made his save.


Some sort of dazing/stunning/paralyzing "psychic scream" perhaps?

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I want another strip right now! I can't wait another 1d8 days!!!


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Sebastian wrote:
I want another strip right now! I can't wait another 1d8 days!!!

I think that Rich uses some fancy table instead of a simple roll to determine number of days between updates...

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Sebastian wrote:
Hmmm...V failing a Will save seems unlikely. I wonder if the position of his hands on the side of his head means that he made the save. And, if that assumption is correct, then Elan also appears to have made his save.

One could argue Elan is immune to mind-affecting effects.

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I'd hazzard it's Ultrablast. She's not worried about friendly fire.

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Matthew Morris wrote:
I'd hazzard it's Ultrablast. She's not worried about friendly fire.

I dunno about that - given how much exposition has been spilled over Belkar's low hp total, I don't think he could survive 13d6 damage.


Sebastian wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:
I'd hazzard it's Ultrablast. She's not worried about friendly fire.
I dunno about that - given how much exposition has been spilled over Belkar's low hp total, I don't think he could survive 13d6 damage.

Ultrablast is actually a really good guess, Matt. Nice.

As far as Belkar's hp - you may well be right. Of course, this might be the point that he dies for real. OR she might just roll "low" on the damage. EDIT: OR something else. :)

As far as,

Sebastian wrote:
I wonder if the position of his hands on the side of his head means that he made the save. And, if that assumption is correct, then Elan also appears to have made his save.

... if it is Ultrablast, your guess makes a huge amount of sense. It's a kind of psychic scream and they're covering their "ears" by holding their head... it seems about right to me.

Durkon would be fine though, given the Undead type, which would explain his lack of reaction compared to everyone else. He didn't need to make his save.


Of Course Tarquin would be immune. Sigh...

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As far as Belkar's hp - you may well be right. Of course, this might be the point that he dies for real. OR she might just roll "low" on the damage. EDIT: OR something else. :)

Hmmmm...Belkar does have a surprise face instead of an angry face like Roy and Haley. I was expecting X's if Belkar had been killed by the psion, but Nale had a similar expression right before he died from an unexpected attack.


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Andrea1 wrote:
Of Course Tarquin would be immune. Sigh...

Plot armor is a nice piece of equipment to have. ;)


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Ross Byers wrote:

#928: Go

I admit I don't get the thing about Xykon being chilly.

I assumed it was because he was blue. Chilly was just coded enough to indicate who the surprise target was.

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Sebastian wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:


As far as Belkar's hp - you may well be right. Of course, this might be the point that he dies for real. OR she might just roll "low" on the damage. EDIT: OR something else. :)

Hmmmm...Belkar does have a surprise face instead of an angry face like Roy and Haley. I was expecting X's if Belkar had been killed by the psion, but Nale had a similar expression right before he died from an unexpected attack.

I bet it's alignment based somehow.

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Or Tarquin has a 'ring of mind shielding' or something. He's the kind of guy who makes sure he's immune to his ally's friendly fire.

Not saying he's trying to turn on them or expects to be betrayed. Just that it's easier for the wizard to cast fireball when all the guys on your team are wearing amulets of fireproof.


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If it -is- Ultrablast, Tarquin is immune because he is not Laurin's enemy. It only harms enemies.

If so, then why doesn't Durkon seem to be hurt? Hmmm...

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Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:

#928: Go

I admit I don't get the thing about Xykon being chilly.

I assumed it was because he was blue. Chilly was just coded enough to indicate who the surprise target was.

I'm sure it'll be explained in another strip or two. Maybe Miron was just the northern most of the three enemies at the time V said it or something. Or maybe V really was just reminding Roy that they're on a time crunch because Xykon had moved on to the gate to the north, though that seems like a really cryptic way to do that.

I have a strong suspicion that V's odd behavior two strips ago (telling the others to run despite the wormhole chase and poking the bad guys with an occasional spell, then watching them move around) was some sort of scouting technique, which will also be explained at the same time.

As for the last panel, I have no idea, but I doubt it's alignment based. Too many mixed alignments around there. I'd agree that Tarquin probably has a specific item to make him immune. Or it's a power that only targets enemies, as Tarondor said. But if that's it, then why is Tarquin's head glowing like the others?

Edit: So am I the only one who saw Miron pop out and think "They just got a ton of xp for defeating that bastard"?

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Or V was just telling the gang that the guy in the scarf (chilly) was the primary target (Xykon), so they should focus on him. As explained by Belkar, not four panels later.


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Tarondor wrote:

If it -is- Ultrablast, Tarquin is immune because he is not Laurin's enemy. It only harms enemies.

If so, then why doesn't Durkon seem to be hurt? Hmmm...

Ultrablast is [Mind-Affecting]. Undead are immune.

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Sebastian wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:


As far as Belkar's hp - you may well be right. Of course, this might be the point that he dies for real. OR she might just roll "low" on the damage. EDIT: OR something else. :)

Hmmmm...Belkar does have a surprise face instead of an angry face like Roy and Haley. I was expecting X's if Belkar had been killed by the psion, but Nale had a similar expression right before he died from an unexpected attack.

Actually Belkar and Durkon both have the surprised face ... well, surprised eyes at any rate.

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I thought the Xykon reference was about how Roy defeated Xykon in the vision. Hold your attack until he casts, then strike.

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Xzaral wrote:
I thought the Xykon reference was about how Roy defeated Xykon in the vision. Hold your attack until he casts, then strike.

Good thought, but it doesn't work. V never saw that vision.


Uzzy wrote:
Or V was just telling the gang that the guy in the scarf (chilly) was the primary target (Xykon), so they should focus on him. As explained by Belkar, not four panels later.

Yes, it is clear that V's comment was some way of advising Roy to attack Miron instead of engaging with Tarquin. What we have been wondering is exactly how his comment could have given Roy that idea. In a game mechanics sense, it is a bluff check using bluff to send a message to a target. We get that.

The scarf thing is potentially a clue, but if so, it seems a very tenuous clue.

When I initially read the comment in the strip, my immediate reaction was that it was a suggestion to go for the most powerful spellcaster, which V would quite likely judge to be the biggest threat.


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Enough people were confused about the scarf reference that Rich addressed it on his messageboards. He said:

"It's just as simple as, "The highest priority target is the guy with the scarf," said in such a way that Tarquin didn't understand that's what was being said. Belkar later reiterates in the vernacular this exact idea in his panel."

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zylphryx wrote:
Sebastian wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:


As far as Belkar's hp - you may well be right. Of course, this might be the point that he dies for real. OR she might just roll "low" on the damage. EDIT: OR something else. :)

Hmmmm...Belkar does have a surprise face instead of an angry face like Roy and Haley. I was expecting X's if Belkar had been killed by the psion, but Nale had a similar expression right before he died from an unexpected attack.
Actually Belkar and Durkon both have the surprised face ... well, surprised eyes at any rate.

Belkar is surpised he just bought it; Durkon is surprised he's unaffected!

(Though I suppose we will know for sure in an unknowable amount of time)


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Sebastian wrote:

Belkar is surpised he just bought it; Durkon is surprised he's unaffected!

(Though I suppose we will know for sure in an unknowable amount of time)

This is my thought as well, though I hope Belkar is not dead yet.

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Varsuvius wrote:
I believe Xykon is feeling chilly today.

Any of my fighter-types would have replied, "I don't know what that means," in a no-nonsense serious voice and then charged whatever target I wanted, leaving the player running the strategist PC to throw their hands up in exasperation.


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Andostre wrote:
Varsuvius wrote:
I believe Xykon is feeling chilly today.
Any of my fighter-types would have replied, "I don't know what that means," in a no-nonsense serious voice and then charged whatever target I wanted, leaving the player running the strategist PC to throw their hands up in exasperation.

Luckily, Roy didn't dump his Int or Wis, and has decent ranks in sense motive.


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I would really want to play low-Intelligence warrior type...

*turns head* "Wait? What do you mean?"

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"Xykon isn't even here!"


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"Chili? I don't care what he's eating!"


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"I thought liches were immune to cold!"


So what about Tarquin's next action? I'm guessing he goes after Roy again while frothing about Elan needing to be the leader.


Orthos wrote:
"I thought liches were immune to cold!"

Wouldn't it be chilly with no skin on?

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Drock11 wrote:
Orthos wrote:
"I thought liches were immune to cold!"
Wouldn't it be chilly with no skin on?

No nerve endings, so he wouldn't feel it.

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