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Didn't see another thread on this so I thought I'd start.
Inquisitor page 41, the Slayer ability was not reworked for the new Judgement system:
Slayer (Ex): At 17th level, an inquisitor learns to act quickly in combat. Whenever an inquisitor uses her judgment ability, she can select one of her judgments—that judgment grants the maximum bonus from the first round of combat onward. If that judgment is changed during combat, it resets as normal.
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Page 41, Inquisitor True Judgement:
True Judgment (Su): At 20th level, an inquisitor can call true judgment down upon a foe during combat. Whenever an inquisitor uses her judgment ability, the inquisitor can invoke true judgment on a foe as a swift action. Once declared, the inquisitor can make a single melee (or ranged attack, if the foe is within 30 feet) against the target. If the attack hits, it deals damage normally and the target must make a Fortitude save or die. The DC of this save is equal to 10 + 1/2 the inquisitor’s level + the inquisitor’s Wisdom modifier. Once the attack is made, all of the bonuses from the inquisitor’s judgments reset to those granted on the first round (although the slayer judgment remains at the maximum bonus). Regardless of whether or not the save is made, the target creature is immune to the inquisitor’s true judgment ability for 24 hours.
Emphasis mine.
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Spelling, Page 37, Cavalier entry:
Knight’s Challenge (Ex): At 15th level, the cavalier can make a knight’s challenge once per day. This functions like a normal challenge, but the cavalier adds his Charisma bonus on all attack rolls and damage roles made against the target of his challenge. In addition, he receives a +4 circumstance bonus on attack rolls made to confirm critical hits against the target of his knight’s challenge.
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The wording of the spell Flames of the Faithful.
If you are using the judgment class feature and all of your judgments are granting the maximum bonus, your weapon gains the flaming burst property instead.
Since the judgement class feature is level dependent now, this is probably wrong.
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Sweeping Fend (Ex): At 13th level, a polearm master
can use any spear or pole arm to make a bull rush or trip
maneuver, though he takes a –4 penalty to his CMB when
making such attempts. Weapons with the trip property
do not incur this penalty on trip maneuvers. This ability
replaces weapon training 3.
I never knew of a clause that disallowed players to bull rush with spears or polearms. I knew that you couldn't trip without a trip weapon, but bull rush seems out of place.
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Breaching the Gulf (Sp): At 15th level, your caster level is
increased by 3 when casting spells of the teleportation
subschool. In addition, once per day you can teleport a
single creature within 30 feet into the void of space if it
fails a Will save. The save DC is equal to 10 + 1/2 your
sorcerer level + your Charisma modifier. The target can
attempt a new saving throw as a full-round action each
round to return. While trapped in the airless void, the
target suffers 6d6 points of cold damage per round and
immediately begins to suffocate.
Suffocation immediately drops you to unconcious. While unconcious, you cannot take any actions. There is no way to prevent death if you are targeted by this ability and fail your saving throw if you must breathe air. I suppose making a saving throw against this ability should probably be a non-action, like the spell suffocation's, or is this intended to be the penultimate instant kill for breathing creatures?
I never knew of a clause that disallowed players to bull rush with spears or polearms. I knew that you couldn't trip without a trip weapon, but bull rush seems out of place.
Sweeping Fend (Ex): At 13th level, a polearm master
can use any spear or pole arm to make a bull rush or trip
maneuver, though he takes a –4 penalty to his CMB when
making such attempts. Weapons with the trip property
do not incur this penalty on trip maneuvers. This ability
replaces weapon training 3.
Bull rush was never something that happened with a weapon, it was putting your shoulder to the guy like a football tackler trying to knock the running back in the wrong direction. This ability let's you bullrush somebody with the pointy end of your polearm, which means (I'm guessing) no provoking attacks of opportunity unless the bad guy has enough reach to get at you, plus now you'd get the magical enhancements and weapon mastery bonuses (if applicable) to the CMB check.
Bull rush was never something that happened with a weapon, it was putting your shoulder to the guy like a football tackler trying to knock the running back in the wrong direction. This ability let's you bullrush somebody with the pointy end of your polearm, which means (I'm guessing) no provoking attacks of opportunity unless the bad guy has enough reach to get at you, plus now you'd get the magical enhancements and weapon mastery bonuses (if applicable) to the CMB check.
I never knew of a clause that disallowed players to bull rush with spears or polearms. I knew that you couldn't trip without a trip weapon, but bull rush seems out of place.
Sweeping Fend (Ex): At 13th level, a polearm master
can use any spear or pole arm to make a bull rush or trip
maneuver, though he takes a –4 penalty to his CMB when
making such attempts. Weapons with the trip property
do not incur this penalty on trip maneuvers. This ability
replaces weapon training 3.
That is correct, i'm guessing it also lets you use any reach the weapon may have to perform the bullrush or trip. And the bonus' you can pile onto the bullrush when using a weapon can become a lot, even with the -4.
Bonus Spells: detect undead (3rd), lesser restoration (5th),
neutralize poison (7th), restoration (9th), breath of life (11th),
heal (13th), greater restoration (15th), mass cure critical wounds
(17th), mass heal (19th).
All the life mystery bonus spells are still granted on odd levels where the rest have been made even.
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Bull rush was never something that happened with a weapon, it was putting your shoulder to the guy like a football tackler trying to knock the running back in the wrong direction. This ability let's you bullrush somebody with the pointy end of your polearm, which means (I'm guessing) no provoking attacks of opportunity unless the bad guy has enough reach to get at you, plus now you'd get the magical enhancements and weapon mastery bonuses (if applicable) to the CMB check.
I never knew of a clause that disallowed players to bull rush with spears or polearms. I knew that you couldn't trip without a trip weapon, but bull rush seems out of place.
Sweeping Fend (Ex): At 13th level, a polearm master
can use any spear or pole arm to make a bull rush or trip
maneuver, though he takes a –4 penalty to his CMB when
making such attempts. Weapons with the trip property
do not incur this penalty on trip maneuvers. This ability
replaces weapon training 3.
This is an interesting corner case.
In 3.5, it was stipulated that a bull rush occurred by first moving into an opponent's square (provoking the AoO) and then you made the relevant check. Thus, it works like your example described above. A full-body check to slam into somebody.
First, you move into the defender’s space. Doing this provokes an attack of opportunity from each opponent that threatens you, including the defender. (If you have the Improved Bull Rush feat, you don’t provoke an attack of opportunity from the defender.) Any attack of opportunity made by anyone other than the defender against you during a bull rush has a 25% chance of accidentally targeting the defender instead, and any attack of opportunity by anyone other than you against the defender likewise has a 25% chance of accidentally targeting you. (When someone makes an attack of opportunity, make the attack roll and then roll to see whether the attack went astray.)
In Pathfinder, the rules text are silent on exactly what happens to cause a bull rush. It just says that you DO IT as a standard action in place of an attack action. It doesn't say why or how it provokes an AoO, it just does.
You can make a bull rush as a standard action or as part of a charge, in place of the melee attack. You can only bull rush an opponent who is no more than one size category larger than you. A bull rush attempts to push an opponent straight back without doing any harm. If you do not have the Improved Bull Rush feat, or a similar ability, initiating a bull rush provokes an attack of opportunity from the target of your maneuver.
I wrote the ability thinking about bull rush in a 3.5 vein, not realizing they hadn't specified it the same way in Pathfinder. The assumption and intent of the ability is that:
a. Bull rush is accomplished by way of bashing into somebody, and therefore has to be done at your natural reach and just using your CMB; therefore,
b. With this ability you can do it with a weapon (including a reach weapon, letting you do it at range and avoid AoOs even if you don't have the IBR/GBR feats), allowing you to apply any bonuses you have with that weapon (weapon focus, magic weapon, weapon training, etc.) to the bull rush attempt as well, just as you would with a disarm or sunder attack.
In the absence of any official erratum, you can take that as you will.
On the Bull Rush topic,
the current wording of it in the Core Rules is actually confusing,
but basically `normally` Bull Rush does not use any bonuse or abilities relevant to your weapon (it`s an action independent of weapon),
but the wording for it`s usage during a Charge uses the exact same phrasing `in place of an attack` used elsewhere to indicate compatability with using a weapon (+bonuses/feats/etc), so per RAW you CAN use any weapon`s attack (with bonuses/reach/etc) WHEN CHARGING. (I`ve reported this as Errata because I don`t believe it`s intended, but that`s how the current core rules read)
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Suffocation immediately drops you to unconcious. While unconcious, you cannot take any actions. There is no way to prevent death if you are targeted by this ability and fail your saving throw if you must breathe air. I suppose making a saving throw against this ability should probably be a non-action, like the spell suffocation's, or is this intended to be the penultimate instant kill for breathing creatures?
Breaching the Gulf (Sp): At 15th level, your caster level is
increased by 3 when casting spells of the teleportation
subschool. In addition, once per day you can teleport a
single creature within 30 feet into the void of space if it
fails a Will save. The save DC is equal to 10 + 1/2 your
sorcerer level + your Charisma modifier. The target can
attempt a new saving throw as a full-round action each
round to return. While trapped in the airless void, the
target suffers 6d6 points of cold damage per round and
immediately begins to suffocate.
The rules on suffocation are a bit wonky; are you suffocating while you're holding your breath with no air, or is it only when you run out of breath and start making CON checks, or only when you fail a CON check and pass out? They all fall under the "suffocation" section, but which part counts as "suffocation." What I had in mind was not an instakill effect (though pretty hardcore).
I probably should have phrased it:
Which skips holding your breath (since the effect zips you suddenly into space, you don't have time for a big gulp of air) but doesn't zip you to auto-passing out either. I should have been more specific about which part of the suffocation-train I had in mind.
Alternatively, you could just make the saves happen at the beginning of the victim's turn each round (so they are automatic, even if you're unconscious), rather than requiring an action. Of course, if you die, you're an object and don't get to save against the spell any more. So you just stay in orbit until you burn out like Skylab... :)
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On the Bull Rush topic,
the current wording of it in the Core Rules is actually confusing,
but basically `normally` Bull Rush does not use any bonuse or abilities relevant to your weapon (it`s an action independent of weapon),
but the wording for it`s usage during a Charge uses the exact same phrasing `in place of an attack` used elsewhere to indicate compatability with using a weapon (+bonuses/feats/etc), so per RAW you CAN use any weapon`s attack (with bonuses/reach/etc) WHEN CHARGING. (I`ve reported this as Errata because I don`t believe it`s intended, but that`s how the current core rules read)
You do get to apply miscellaneous bonuses to hit to your CMD, whether they are from flanking, charging, higher ground, bardic inspire courage, a bless or haste spell or whatever, so I would think that is what is meant by the reference with regard to charging.
But... there's certainly room for inference.
On the Bull Rush topic,
the current wording of it in the Core Rules is actually confusing,
but basically `normally` Bull Rush does not use any bonuse or abilities relevant to your weapon (it`s an action independent of weapon),
but the wording for it`s usage during a Charge uses the exact same phrasing `in place of an attack` used elsewhere to indicate compatability with using a weapon (+bonuses/feats/etc), so per RAW you CAN use any weapon`s attack (with bonuses/reach/etc) WHEN CHARGING. (I`ve reported this as Errata because I don`t believe it`s intended, but that`s how the current core rules read)
This is how I have always interpretted it. It also makes Barbarian's knockback good because they can use a melee attack to do it and therefore can use it on an AoO. Reach trip + knockback FTW.
The feat Crippling Critical should probably listed as (Combat, Critical), not just (Combat).
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Page 171 Summoner’s Call
The short description text doesn't match the Benefit text. Does the feat do both or just one of the two possible benefits?
A master of the martial applications of steel and spell, the spellsword blends both into a lethal combination.
[...]
Bardic Performance: A spellsword gains the following types of bardic performance.
Apparently the arcane duelist was called a spellsword at some point ;)
On the Bull Rush topic,
the current wording of it in the Core Rules is actually confusing...You do get to apply miscellaneous bonuses to hit to your CMD, whether they are from flanking, charging, higher ground, bardic inspire courage, a bless or haste spell or whatever, so I would think that is what is meant by the reference with regard to charging.
But... there's certainly room for inference.
Definitely, the problem is that language used is the exact same language used to denote that Trip and Disarm can be used in place of, and with relevant weapon bonuses to, a melee attack - Those Maneuvers rely 100% percent on that language in their descriptions to indicate that fact, which is why it`s presence in Bullrush (in the Charge clause) would logically lead one to the same interpretation (re: weapon specific, as opposed to general bonuses like you enumerated). Part of the problem is that the only place the Core Rules explicitly mention the signifigance of `ìn place of a melee attack` (with weapon specific bonuses/parameters e.g. reach) is in a small-text footnote to the `actions in combat` table, which is nearly a table of contents for the combat chapter - something nearly at the opposite end of the combat chapter from the manuever section, and not anywhere somebody would think to look when trying to understand maneuvers. I sympathize with trying to write rules expansions when the core set is still un-resolved (hopefully these issues and their resolution is summarized for those writing APG material, so as to be in-line with Core Errata when it is released).
I tend to personally feel that weapon bonuses SHOULD apply to bull rush (or at least for certain weapons, e.g. unarmed strike, shield slams, armored spikes, spears), but the current situations where weapon bonuses do or do not apply depending on if you are Charging (with zero fluff text to support that this is intended) just seems so bizarro to me that I feel it is 99% likely to be Errata (and Charge Bullrushes shouldn`t use weapon bonuses unless you have a special ability to do so).
(/crossproducterratatheadjack)
Here's an error that I found in the Feats section.
First, in the chart listing the feats, under 'Focused Shot', it lists the prerequisites as 'INT 13, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot'.
However, under the feat's actual description, it states that to take the feat you must have 'INT 13, Precise Shot'.
Of note is that the prereq for Precise Shot is point blank shot. So..while it's not technically in error..it is a true statement, but it could be confusing.
Yes, but there are times when a character, like a ranger with archery style, could have Precise Shot without already having Point Blank Shot, so it can matter.
I just noticed the error in the last 2 abilities of the inquisitor myself. Thought Id start a thread, but you beat me to it so im adding my $0.02
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I just noticed the error in the last 2 abilities of the inquisitor myself. Thought Id start a thread, but you beat me to it so im adding my $0.02
That particular inquisitor problem has a few echos throughout the book. I have already addressed them in another thread (which can be found here).
As for the rest, I hope to get an update file out just before GenCon, fixing these and a few other errors we have spotted.
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing
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Thanx for starting this thread, Alizor.
Hmmm. With these errata, should I hold off my purchases on the APG and future "evergreen" Paizo products (e.g., Inner Sea, Bestiary II, etc.) until the second printing? I don't mind typos (Sean K Reynolds said something to the effect that 94%+ of errors are caught) but mechanics are a different matter.
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Typo in the summoner spell list:
Spell level 3: summon monster 4
Spell level 4: summon monster 5
Spell level 5: summon monster 7
Spell level 6: summon monster 4?
After the first round of the playtest you removed the early entry summon monster spells for the summoner and just gave him 1-6 at the normal levels.
This meant he could have the high level one out with his SPA and lower ones with the normal magic. So does this mean you went back to the early entry spells, and thats supposed to be summon monster 9 at level 6?
Not sure this quite qualifies for errata/typo, but...shouldn't the APG have internal hyperlinks? (ie, from tables, index, etc.)
Page 90.
The Exploration sub domain has find the path listed as the spell gained at 6th level. Find the path is the normal spell from the travel domain at 6th level, so should either be something else or not listed as a change.
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The Wizard/Sorcerer spells should have been in schools like all the other Wiz/Sor lists, imo.
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There are no .pdf links from the spell lists to the actual spell descriptions [would have been nice].
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About the Oracle revelations, was it intentional to make the Wind Mystery's armor bonus last for a shorter amount of time than the other Mysteries'? (The Bones mystery and the Waves mystery both had the durations changed to 1 hour per Oracle level, yet the Wind mystery remains at 10 minutes per level)
Is this supposed to say "as a swift action" or "as an immediate action", or am I just not seeing the benefit?Surprise Shift (Ex): The ranger can move 5 feet as a
move action. This movement does not provoke attacks of
opportunity and does not count as a 5-foot step.
I would say as a Move Action... otherwise they wouldn't have stippulated it didn't provoke an AoO. Since Swift and Immediate Actions do not provoke AoO normally.
EDIT: My assumption here is that it would effectively give you 10 ft of free movement without attacks of oportunity.
So you can move up to a target, then Surprise shift through their threatened area.
Page 42 Inquisitor spell list
reads...
2nd-Level Inquisitor Spells
restoration, see invisibility (lesser),
Think that (lesser) should be after the Restoration and not the See Invisibility!
Not a error or correction but a related question.
If I purchase the PDF on August 5th will there be an updated copy with errata corrections at a future time?
Yes, Paizo update their .pdf's when they can.
Page 91, Growth Subdomain reads:
Enlarge (Su): As a swift action you can enlarge yourself,
as if you were the target of the enlarge person spell. You can
use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your
Wisdom modifier.
I believe there should be a reference in this text to the effect that the benefit only lasts one round.
The following granted power replaces the resilient touch power of the Protection domain.
Instead of resilient, it should be resistant. There is no resilient touch power to the Protection domain.
Page 102, the Urban Druid Lorekeeper ability. It says that the druid adds the skills, it does not say to what. I assume it means to the druids class skills but it looks like the sentence was cut off.