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Native Americans of North America had the concept of Two Spirit. In addition, you'll find that many tribal folklore and mythologies had deities that were both gender.


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Ugh, so some major hitches with writing up the bestiaries. Been swamped with work and it looks to be getting worse. I'll try and finish the Siguanaba as soon as tomorrow!

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Personally, I don't want to see elves on Arcadia, if only because we have them in Tian Xia. I'd like to see either halflings or gnomes in Arcadia (I would would like to see Dwarves as the Avistan race in Casmaron)

I don't know how important that question of how humans got to Arcadia is really. IMHO it still not been adequately established why they exist in Golarion to begin with. I do get a sense that Syrinx might have been the dominant eastern Arcadian empire during age of the Azlanti. Now? who knows?

I also don't necessarily see an issue with stone age hunters in Arcadia. In Avistan, you have stone-age barbarians In the Realm of the Mammoth Lords, at the same time as steampunk elements in Alkenstar, and high magic in Nex, with a vast diversity of nations filling the spectrum in between. Arcadia (I think) is bigger than Avistan, so I don't see a problem with it being just as diverse.

I'm fine with running the gamut of genres personally, from stone age hunters to the Sky Captains of Machu Pichu from earlier :D


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Wrath of the Righteous might be an outlier on the male attractiveness scale just because that they made an effort to show that "Good isn't always beautiful" for the AP. Pointing out the disparity isn't bad, but saying "This person is ugly, therefore probably not a romantic interest." is a bit much. Which is what I'm noticing in your posts.

Again, fantasy game and intended love interest. I'm not saying that you can't fall in love with an unattractive person. You certainly can. I'm saying that, generally speaking, when you intend, in fiction, to make a character a romantic option, you generally make them attractive.

Again, Joana and others are explicitly complaining about 'no attractive men' as 'no potential love interests' so there's some serious overlap between the two problems.

And I'll note that I saw very few unattractive women in WotR.

NPC Spoilers for WotR:

While you may not be trying to say that you can't fall in love with an unattractive person, reading the last post, you kept pointing that some of the male NPCs may not be attractive enough to be considered a romantic interest. "Maybe not quite attractive enough" was listed for both Arles and Jesker, which I felt was not a good reason to not include them (which you did include them). In addition, my opinion on their attractiveness differs from yours since I didn't find either unattractive (though Jesker's picture is unflattering since, you know, possession). In the online game I'm running for WotR, two of my players went nuts over the picture of Arles. Chicks dig scars, what can I say ;)

I'm not saying that pointing out the disparity is wrong. Rather, I encourage and agree with Joana that there is most definitely a disparity between the attractiveness, genders, and availability for romantic options in AP. There should be a better mix for both sides and it is definitely something Paizo should be made aware of from the fanbase. However, the topic is about male love interests, not attractive love interests. I don't think that we should bar NPCs from our "love interest" lists simply because they may not be attractive enough, for either gender. Rather, I'm glad that Paizo doesn't feel the need to always be beholden to "It's a fantasy game, so make all the love interests hot and all the villains ugly" trope. Now, they just need to fix and adjust things against the current disparity that is being pointed out.


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Wrath of the Righteous might be an outlier on the male attractiveness scale just because that they made an effort to show that "Good isn't always beautiful" for the AP. Pointing out the disparity is fine and welcome, but saying "This person is ugly, therefore probably not a romantic interest." is a bit much. Which is what I'm noticing in your post.

With a non-visual game like Pathfinder, looks don't play as much as how that NPC interacts with the party. You'll find more often than not that the players bond with an NPC despite the looks because they have to focus on the interaction with the NPC without an actual visualization.


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I don't think we should really bar unattractiveness when dealing with potential romances. Hell, I somehow got a girlfriend and I look like Luis Guzman :p


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No such thing as too much.

My Kingmaker took place on a tropical island and the Candlemere tower was actually a ruined ancient space elevator.


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While some abilities need some work, I like the Hex/Mystery Combo of the Shaman. For me, it works conceptually and is pretty neat. Feels like a witch flavored druid.


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No problemo. I can wait :)


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Of course not. She's just Lawful Stupid. Arguably worse.


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Well, they can look tribal without being a noble savage. Like the Shoanti.

What I don't want Paizo to do is to be so afraid of doing the noble savage trope that they completely ignore Native American dress and outfits. The noble savage trope isn't BAD. The issue is its overuse.


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My body is ready


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Likewise. Oh well. Can't win them all :)


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Other things use survival to hunt.

Be careful that as you are rolling survival to hunt, something isn't rolling survival after you ;)


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You are really really reaching with that first female option in chapter 1, and the one in chapter 2 is, as you note, not illustrated or notable.

The first one...she travels with the PCs the whole way and is pretty attractive, why is it reaching?

And the second...eh, maybe. I just looked at her description and it screamed 'love interest hook' in my brain...but maybe I'm reading too much into it.

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Overall though, it's probably the best AP there is for potential NPC love interests, both for variety and memorability... which is funny, because it's also the one which pushes the PCs towards starting out with spouses and children to anchor them to the city.

I agree.

Maizing wrote:

Why do NPCs have to be young/attractive to be romantic interests?

For example... in Jade Regent, one of the campaign traits is to have a childhood crush on one of (3 out of) 4 NPCs. What would be so "wrong" about role playing a Herald and Maude style romance with Koya? Not to mention that older males can be quite sexy (think: Sean Connery!).

Just my two cents.

For the record, I'm not factoring in age. So far one of the men in CotCT is well into middle age or somewhat beyond, and one of the women is cited as 40.

Attractiveness I am factoring in to some degree, because we're looking for planned love interests, designed to appeal to a majority of people...or at least not designed to not appeal. Ignoring physical attractiveness will give a very skewed and inaccurate picture as compared to people's actual experiences.

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I used Sean Connery impression to voice a prominent character in Curse of the Crimson Throne:

** spoiler omitted **

I used Antonio Banderas impression to voice:

** spoiler omitted **.

Ha! That's hilarious. And appropriate. :)

It's plausible. My current character in Jade Regent has fallen in love with a spirit of a dead bard woman found in the Forest of Spirits and is looking to resurrect her from her skull. She's my Patrick Swayze :D

Also, not spoilers since this was added to the AP by my GM.


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Currently listening to Bag Raiders with their self-titled album.


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With CotCT being the only AP I've played until the end, I remember there being a decent amount of male love interests. I'd say it was about even.


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Sissyl wrote:

The Bible is always only as important as you consider it to be. If you choose for it to decide your opinions and values, it will. If you do not consider it more than a book written by various people about their views of good and metaphysics, that's all it will be. The only thing giving it authority is ITSELF. It will NEVER be a book for ALL MEN, nor should it. No matter how important christians consider it to be, they have ABSOLUTELY no right to try to make it into law, because such laws would force non-christians to obey various parts of the bible.

It's not about not trying to find common ground. It's that with fanatics, there won't ever be such. The only "common ground" they will accept is complete conformity to their world-view. Now, not every christian is a fanatic, and some may try to listen, but in my experience, once you start discussing the sensitive areas like evolution, sex ed and cloning, any common ground you might have had disappears.

As to your second point above, that's flat out b@%~++&#. Are you familiar with the (excuse my latin here) Index romanum librorum prohibitorum, the Vatican's list of books that were not allowed to be published? This was kept up for hundreds of years... and it reads like a who's who of every important scientific, philosophical and sociological advance in Western history. People died to defy the church... and eventually, the church lost its stranglehold on temporal power, not through cooperation with the church, but through accusation, judgement, conflict, hatred, blood and death. They died, because the things they knew to be right WERE IMPORTANT. That the church is weaker today means absolutely NOTHING, it would still play the same role if it could. Even today, the religious organizations are ALWAYS the last to adopt something, even things shown to be utterly beneficial.

Amen to that. And if people really want to force their religion into laws, despite separation of church and state, then I saw we start charging churches taxes from here on out.


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To those that thinking talking isn't effective, research shows that is wrong.

I just want to say, this is an excellent article and encapsulates everything that is being tried in many ways.

Thanks for posting this article.

I am a strong believer that discussing the matter is the best method rather than trying to pick fights about it or making accusations about what the other side believes, does, or doesn't do.

Of course, as if it needs to be said again (I think people keep focusing on everything but my main points, which is discouraging, but I keep reiterating)...I think the best discourse is what's been going on already in the progression of LGBT rights. That is to focus on common goals and common ground.

They feel that all people should have an equal chance at freedom and equality. They feel that everyone should have the right to let their loved ones visit when in a hospital, or even make the decisions on what to do in the dreaded occasion where you are in critical care and cannot. They feel that the things you own are yours, and you should be given the rights to pass those items just as freely to the one you loved as they do. They feel equal taxation is a right. This was built upon and eventually, these rights are being given (slowly, albeit) across the States and Europe.

It can be frustrating not to see it happen all at once, or immediately, especially with opposition. The only thing I could say is that tossing accusations and finding faults while being angry really doesn't change things, but taking a more measured approach with talking and pointing out the similarities in beliefs is what changes people's opinions, and has brought about more change for the better in the past two decades than the entire century previous.

We've already come to an agreement with you about talking things out over violence or extremism. We just disagree with you that the LGBT "extremists" are any worse than the anti-LGBT moderates. Conversation, civil disobedience, and education will always be my preferred method. But you also need to understand that we are trying to find common ground with people that think our very existence is a cancer on society, so that's going to take a lot more understanding on the right's part than with our part.

As for the Bible being all important for everyone, well, it was the Bible that turned me atheist and there's nothing short of dumping 3/4 of the pages that'll make me Catholic again.


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Odraude wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
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With the onset of the Technology Guide, I was curious...

How would you handle PCs wanting to invent something? I've always wanted to handle players inventing items and such, but the task always seemed daunting. Felt I'd have to have a Civilization V-esque flowchart of technologies to make it make sense.

The same way I'd handle PCs wanting to invent a magic item.
Fair enough, though I'm still at a loss on how a player can, for example, invent the laser gun with only 1500's technology.

By using technology from the distant future.

As it turns out, your question is answered in the book, but I'm not gonna go into further detail at this point, since letting out bits and pieces of info like that not only dilutes anticipation this far in advance of the product's release, but also tends to do more harm than good as folks assume they know the whole picture from one tiny bit of info and that causes more questions than answers.

So... patience! (That said... comparing Golarion, a world with magic, to 1500's technology is not really fair.)

Fair enough. The laser was just an example. Wasn;t trying to sneak info about the Technology Guide ;)

I just have a player that wants to invent advanced firearms in a Renaissance style setting and I wasn't sure how to handle that. But, I'll definitely watch for this book.


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The Shaman wrote:

A lot of the more creative uses for spells are in making magical items - wondrous items in particular. A decanter of endless water can make for a spring in a dry area, for example, and there is nearly unlimited potential to what items you can devise (barring DM veto). For example, an arch with a permanent Diagnose Disease can help you keep the village lifestock in good condition. Still,in general the better spells of managing the land are on the druid list, but spell research can allow you to develop spinoffs or analogous spells - plant growth, control winds, commune with nature...

As for enriching, hmm, how often can you do it, both per day and on one place?

I'd be careful with that. I had to explain to someone that a decanter of endless water in a desert has a better chance of turning the area into quicksand. or worse, a salt flat akin to Salar de Uyuni.


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Anzyr wrote:

Or since the crafting process of adding enhancement bonuses is pretty straightforward you could just say something like:

A 1st Circle Magic Sword of Flaming. (+1 Flaming Sword).

Seriously, crafters know this stuff.

I like this and Tier's the best. Marius Castille's idea is a close third.


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Well you could, but it would come out in a series of ampersands, asterisks, and octothorpes ;)


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Tirisfal wrote:

The new youtube layout is kinda dumb; my subscriptions don't show up in order at all, forcing me to have to search out the latest videos.

I'm not sure why I bother subscribing to anything on there anymore :P

For me, I couldn't even see the video when I went to their channel. Was really odd.

Thanks again though. Wrapping it up and Inner Sea Gods sounds good.


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I've been a bit slow because of my workload, but here is a sneak peak at the Siguanaba, coming in at CR 10 atm.

Nightmarish Visage (Su) The siguanaba can, as a standard action, reveal her skull-like face to frighten a victim to death. This ability acts as phantasmal killer, except that it doesn't turn back onto the siguanaba on a successful save. The target makes a DC 20 Will save or dies. Those that save against the visage must make a second DC 20 Will save at the start of their turn or be confused for 1d6 rounds. A creature that saves against both checks is immune to this ability for 24 hours. The siguanaba must be in a humanoid form using change shape and using this ability immediately ends change shape. The save DCs are Charisma-based.

Enjoy!


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James Jacobs wrote:
Odraude wrote:

With the onset of the Technology Guide, I was curious...

How would you handle PCs wanting to invent something? I've always wanted to handle players inventing items and such, but the task always seemed daunting. Felt I'd have to have a Civilization V-esque flowchart of technologies to make it make sense.

The same way I'd handle PCs wanting to invent a magic item.

Fair enough, though I'm still at a loss on how a player can, for example, invent the laser gun with only 1500's technology.


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Thanks. I don't know why it's not showing up on my feed. I am subscribed to them.


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With the onset of the Technology Guide, I was curious...

How would you handle PCs wanting to invent something? I've always wanted to handle players inventing items and such, but the task always seemed daunting. Felt I'd have to have a Civilization V-esque flowchart of technologies to make it make sense.


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Steven "Troll" O'Neal wrote:
Just watched the Know Direction interview with Mr. Schneider. It sounds like it's going to be magnificent. I suggest anyone interested in this one go watch it after the live show is over.

I missed that podcast and was hoping to see it on the Youtube channel, but I can't find it now.


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I'm a fan of starting in media res. Have them on the boat in the middle of a naval battle with the pirates.


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Ilja wrote:

Oh, don't know if you've seen this, but it's both not that long time left and not many more signatures needed.

Petition to Legally Recognize Non-binary Genders

Oh and it wasn't yellowdingo

Oh, well, now I'm not interested ;)

Signed.


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Matthew Morris wrote:
Odraude wrote:
I'd imagine more good-aligned monstrous creatures would attempt to find polymorph spells to allow them to be with the person they love. I'd imagine that would help out in the jorogumo case.
There's a comment in the above mentioned Pathfinder Tales novel about quid pro quo being needed. Basically, "we've done it as humans when do we do it as naga?"

This is true. I was mostly talking about the jorogumo to prevent the husband from getting killed by his spider babies.


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Cori Marie wrote:
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I think it basically validates the fears of a lot of religious people -- Some of them think that we're not out to get equal rights, but that we're out to eradicate viewpoints we disagree with.
this is one of my greatest fears on this subject.

Ohmighod. People might think we want to eradicate homophobia! Or racism. Or sexism. The horror. The horror.

no, that this movement is the culmination of some ridiculous seventh sign or something. Or that there really is a movement that seeks to eradicate their religion. It doesn't have to be real in order to be used by the unscrupulous, and some will eagerly play into their hands. I'm sorry if you find this comical, but it's a real concern of mine.

Honestly, while I don't want to eradicate religion, I think it's time for a reform to religion.

And honestly, let's face facts. Anything the LGBT community does to further their goal of equality is going to look like we are eradicating religion by definition of our existence.

Cori Marie wrote:

Recently we had a man get beaten after being asked if he was gay. It came to light that sexuality was not covered in our state's hate crime laws. As a response to this, we held a rally. A rally at which I again spoke. Actually getting in front of people and starting was easier this time. The subject matter a lot harder. I spoke about violence in the trans* community. I also managed to get most of it on video:

Cori speaking on transgender violence

About a minute or so was cut out. In that minute I talk about Gwen Araujo and Brandon Teena, and begin talking about CeCe McDonald.

You're a good speaker. Was touching to watch.

I should add all you guys on facebook or whatnot.

Please feel free to add me! That goes for anyone. And thanks for the feedback. I feel it is my responsibility as a...

No problem, added. Though I apologize in advance for the tsunami of pictures of homemade food I post ;)


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Maybe you should get them into Pathfinder ;)


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Gotta admit, the Nalusa Falaya sounds really interesting. I like monsters that give interesting mechanics.


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Ah, Kythons look neat. I'll have to pick up that book another time

Also, Dragon quest is awesome! Imagine if Pathfinder mimic were as bad as the ones in Dragon Warrior Monsters... yikes


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So between the Technology Guide and People of the Stars books coming out, I'd really love to see creatures similar to the Xenomorph aliens and the Predator aliens. In particular, the Xenomorphs' design is so evocative of fear and, well, alien physiology while still having a resemblance to something familiar. To me, that's the essence of horror. And there are few that can really capture what Giger did. Although I'll admit, the Nightmare Ettercap in the Bestiary 4 came close :)


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Actually, if you had read more than just the last couple posts, you would have seen that yes, it is about the American folktales. Folktales both from Native American culture, American folklore, Latin American folklore, and modern day folklore. I think next time, you should take the time and actually read the topic instead of briefly glancing and passing ignorant judgement about it.


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I've started work on the Sihuanaba. Should be interesting. In the meantime, I've cracked open my GM notes on my setting for the first time since the kidney stone last month. Figured I'd share a bit. I realized that I had four hot spots in my setting that were connected to aliens in some manner, though each one dealt with a different facet and type of extraterrestrial.

First, my setting is a large island chain very much like the Caribbean. In its past, it was a land bridge connecting the northern continent to the southern continent. It also housed a powerful empire akin to the Mayans, only more advanced in technology and, well, obviously magical. The whole thing came crashing down when a rogue star that orbits the solar system came close to the planet. This red dwarf had a singular planet with it. The rogue star system is in actuality the prison of a long dead god of chaos and destruction, with his spirit trapped in the star and the body trapped in the planet. From the planet, the god's body grew a race of terrible alien creature that now seek to release and recombine their god (ala Rovagug).

So every 8000 years, they try to invade the planet, rule for a bit, then get chased off by adventuring parties before they can complete their rituals. Only this time, they were unsuccessful in the invasion part. So as retribution, they tore the land bridge asunder and destroyed the empire that blew them back. So that's one alien, based on a story I read about a planet with a trapped god on it. I don't remember the name of it.

The other aliens are more Lovecraftian, sparing a city-state that was a member of that ancient empire from destruction, at the cost of being trapped in a limbo. Now they and any that sail into this island are trapped in the unhinged pocket dimension without any escape. Things that are summoned in (like outsiders) are trapped forever. There are only two ways to escape. One is to use a magical cave system that alters the flow of reality and time, meaning you can end up 100 years or more in the future. Or, you can end up in a different plane of existence. The second is to access an underwater crystal pyramid that would bring the island back into existence.

The city-state is run by immortal astrologers that made pacts with creatures from between the stars for immortality via a black column of flame. The Catch 22 is the flame keeps them immortal, but trapped in this dimension. A guardian from beyond known as the Ancient Fensage guards a gem that, if destroyed, will end the flame and bring the island back to the world. But obviously, they would lose their immortality and instant age thousands of years. This was inspired in part by She, The Flame of Py'tar, the Bermuda Triangle, and a little Demon Souls.

The third aliens are less of the Lovecraftian, fantasy creature and more sci fi. I have a crashed ship in a lagoon that has an insane captain and his crew/torture subjects. The ship has an unusual radiation emitting from it that has mutated the wildlife near it. This one is a bit inspired by The Thing, as the insane captain is trapped on the island with an alien like the Thing.

Last alien is also sci fi, but more inspired by Ancient Alien theories. One of the city-states from the destroyed empire was visited by thin beings with seven fingers in its past. Giving the bootstraps treatment, they were uplifted and allowed to have advanced technology before the shattering of the land bridge. More simplified, but good for a module adventure.

So yeah, lots of aliens in my setting. Gotta love aliens :D


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I would think that would be it's nick name until the real Cat Sidhe gets stats.

I would prefer more traditional looking greys as apposed to those guys who look way to close to the aliens from independence day.

That's fair. Though I got more of a Cloverfield meets Greys feel from them.


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lynora wrote:

GreyWolfLord, I think that you are now making huge assumptions about where people are coming from that don't really take into account their possible histories. I was raised in a Christian conservative family. I know I'm not the only one here who comes from a religious background. You talk about understanding, but sometimes what seems like flippant dismissal to you comes from a place of understanding. I understand where the fundamentalist Christian viewpoint is coming from. I've studied the Bible quite a lot (and came to some different conclusions regarding how certain words/phrases are translated and how literally things should be taken than I was taught). I understand what it's like to grow up hating yourself for something that you can't change no matter how hard you try. I understand what it's like to cause a family division just by being. I understand that there are some truly good, compassionate Christians in this world. I also understand that some of the most vicious, petty people I have ever met in my life also call themselves Christians. It would be easy to dismiss the latter as extremists. They're not. They're very, very ordinary and most people would call them moderates. Unless you happen to disagree with them about what color the carpet in the sanctuary should be. Then all bets are off. ** spoiler omitted **

It would be easy to dismiss everything I just said by saying that I'm an outlier or an exception. I'm not. There are plenty of other people with similar experiences. But I can't speak for everyone. I can only speak for me. And I'm tired of even the suggestion that there are reasons worth understanding why someone would hate me for existing....

This is exactly my point. We keep being told to be respectful of their beliefs and not be extremists. But, by the definition of their beliefs, the existence of LGBT is a sin and crime against God. This is the cut and dry belief in the bible that's in Leviticus and spoken by Paul. How can you expect us to respect a belief that essentially condemns our very existence as human beings? How can we be such terrible extremists when their most moderate people still view us as sub-human and want us to not have the same legal rights as others? This is like telling me to respect some white supremacist's beliefs that I am a subhuman because I'm not white and shouldn't have the same legal rights as others.

And that's what infuriates me the most. Being told to smile and turn the other cheek every time someone brings us down. Being told to be understanding to people that literally believe we are scum and somehow need to be saved. Their bigotry, whether driven by hatred or good intentions, is still hurting us. Just because they have the backing of an influential religion thousands of years old doesn't mean I have to respect their beliefs, any more than the beliefs of a klan member or chauvinist.


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I'd imagine more good-aligned monstrous creatures would attempt to find polymorph spells to allow them to be with the person they love. I'd imagine that would help out in the jorogumo case.


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Don't most with opposition to same sex marriage point to Leviticus? I rarely see anyone point to Paul in the New Testament.

No one is trying to portray their religion incorrectly. Quite the opposite, people are pointing out the flaws in how selective people are with their beliefs. We ignore a lot of laws in the New Testament, yet they cannot seem to let this one thing Paul said go. I don't think that someone's bigoted beliefs should be treated different because they have the backing of someone from 2,000+ years ago. It's pretty hypocritical to me.

Don't get me wrong, while I am not a spiritual person, I don't have a problem with religion and religious people. The majority I know are kind people. Many of them know that the Bible has some great things to live by. Don't murder, don't bone your friend's wife, don't be jealous. But they also realize that there are just something things in the Bible that are part of a different time. And that's okay. Reform is fine. It's better for an idea to evolve and reform for the times, instead of stubbornly becoming stagnant. One of my biggest heroes was my old Catholic priest. He was a great man and told me that in life, I should strive to be a good person first and a good Christian second. It always stuck with me and I always felt that more people need to apply this now more than ever, especially towards the LGBT community.

Edited to be more respectful and less "fighty"


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Absalom is the center of trade, so it's probably not unusual for them to see Mwangi people. Remember, even in the medieval times and renaissance times, civilizations were more connected to each other than people realized. Especially when it came to those from the Middle East and North Africa. It wasn't unusual for coastal cities to have foreign merchants from other countries. I'm actually watching Borgia (not to be confused with The Borgias) and they do talk about things such as a Moor invasion of Spain and the Silk Road. And that's in a world without magic. So I'd imagine that the average Absalomite wouldn't bat an eye at the sight of a Mwangi.

Now, the Shory probably have a different culture and clothing, so I'd imagine that would draw some eyes, even from fellow Mwangi and Garundi.

As for the Mythic Power, there's more about that in Mythic Realms.


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There are some here and there in The Dragon's Demand and Distant Worlds and I think Doom Comes to Dustpawn.


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Honestly, I think it's a waste of time to appeal to the religious right. Most are too stubborn and set in there ways to change, even in the face of startling facts. Rather, we are better off appealing to those on the fence and those closer to the middle. I do agree that fighting extremism with extremism won't work in this case. I just don't agree with you that those that called for boycotting as well as the CEO's ejection are extreme. Especially when compared to the moderates on the anti-LGBT side.

While I don't know if I agree with his canning or not, I don't feel the least bit sorry for him. I'm sorry I can't sympathize with the CEO, but he went out of his way to harm the community, all under the guise of his beliefs. And hopefully he just leaves the company altogether under the social pressure. Yes, it's petty, I know. But I am not a very kind and good person ;)

Though I'd be a lot more forgiving if he actually made some gesture of apology to the LGBT community. But apparently, that's too much to ask for him, while we apparently have to be respectful of his beliefs. Rubbish.


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From the Arcadian thread.

American Horror Story Asylum Spoilers:
Never got to finish American Horror Story Season 2, but apparently, these guys are concept art for the grays that were in the show. I think they look suitably alien and cool.


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Probably the lagoon in my setting that has a crashed spaceship in it.


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pres man wrote:
For people that support same-sex marriage, but believe marriage should only be between two people, do you consider yourself as someone who, "discriminate[s] against polyamorous people?" Is that how you define your own mindset on the issue?

I couldn't tell you because I'm not against that :)


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TritonOne wrote:
Sihuanaba

Haha good choice. I was actually thinking about doing this next, so this solidifies it.

Four more!


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S%$%, that's awesome. I'm using that in my game :D

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