Dusk Kamadan: Well played, Paizo. Well played.
Dusk Kamadan: Well played, Paizo. Well played.
??? else wise well done
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I'm confused by the stat block a little:
1) snakes +2 (1d4+1)
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Snakes (Ex) A kamadan’s snakes attack simultaneously; this is always a secondary attack.
So the kamadan has a single attack for all its snakes that deals 1d4+1? (this is just clarification)
2) "The breath weapon of a polar [b]kamadan 3[b] is particularly cold"
I think this is just an editing mistake, at some point before the name polar kamadan, some one said "lets have some kamadan variants, kamadan 1 is the base and looks like a normal leopard, kamadan 2 looks like a black leopard, and kamadan 3 like a snow leopard." But before they were formally named, at least kamadan 3 was named kamadan 3. Or there is an errant 3?
That is a very mean CR4.
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I'm confused by the stat block a little:
1) snakes +2 (1d4+1)
and
Snakes (Ex) A kamadan’s snakes attack simultaneously; this is always a secondary attack.So the kamadan has a single attack for all its snakes that deals 1d4+1? (this is just clarification)
2) "The breath weapon of a polar [b]kamadan 3[b] is particularly cold"
I think this is just an editing mistake, at some point before the name polar kamadan, some one said "lets have some kamadan variants, kamadan 1 is the base and looks like a normal leopard, kamadan 2 looks like a black leopard, and kamadan 3 like a snow leopard." But before they were formally named, at least kamadan 3 was named kamadan 3. Or there is an errant 3?
1) Correct. The kamadan's snakes attack similarly to how a medusa's snakes attack—as a single mass of bites. (We did this in both cases because giving either monster lots of separate snake attacks would end up with it doing FAR too much damage.)
2) The extra "3" is a typo in the blog post. There should be no 3 there at all. (Looking in Bestairy 3, the point where the "3" would show up is on a line break, and I suspect that when we copy-pasted the text from the PDF that all of the line breaks carried over as hard line breaks and so we had to go in and manually remove those and in the process hit the 3 instead of the "ENTER" key on the numerical pad to do so on that line.)
CR 4 with AoE sleep attack, nasty.
Like the stats, don't like the looks. Too "put 2 monsters together and get a new one", but it's mentioned that it's an old monster so there probably wasn't much choice.
Cool pic!
Damn, if it would shown 2 weeks ago I would use it instead of manticores on a "random" encounter when our party traveled outside the city. Luckily they will probably wander around more trying to reach nomad clans meeting at holy place in a few weeks.
Also, party half-elf fighter will be happy - Kamadan's breath is supernatural and thus magical so won't put him to sleep like nonmagical poison used by Xtabay.
BTW: I assume that its damage dice for all natural attacks are deliberately lowered from the standard values for Large creature? It has realy weak claws - two steps below standard.
Cool, haven't seen the Kamadan for awhile,nice pic, and i like the variants as well.
I thought all the monsters from the Bonus Beastairy got into the Beastairy 3?
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BTW: I assume that its damage dice for all natural attacks are deliberately lowered from the standard values for Large creature? It has realy weak claws - two steps below standard.
Yup. Even with lowered standard values, it's still doing slightly more damage per round on average than a CR 4 creature should. We adjust the standard attack values all the time for this reason.
Excellent! Paizo fires up the WABAC Machine and fields a replacement for the displacer beast. As Mairkurion said, "Well played."
Except for the displacement part. ;)
I hope in the next edition of PF, templates get called, "apps."
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Excellent! Paizo fires up the WABAC Machine and fields a replacement for the displacer beast. As Mairkurion said, "Well played."Except for the displacement part. ;)
Stickler. Bad doggy! Get back into your unnaturally geometric box!
Thanks for the backup, ulgulanoth. ;)
Some of those highlights include the penanggalen, the vodyanoi, and one of my favorite old monsters, the kamadan
I've recently become very familiar with one them critters! ;D
I'll never tell, but it was a nice addition to the Pathfinder Bestiaries.
*cough* Coeurl *cough*Excellent! Paizo fires up the WABAC Machine and fields a replacement for the displacer beast. As Mairkurion said, "Well played."Except for the displacement part. ;)
*whisper *sadly copyright exist
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*whisper *sadly copyright exist*cough* Coeurl *cough*Excellent! Paizo fires up the WABAC Machine and fields a replacement for the displacer beast. As Mairkurion said, "Well played."Except for the displacement part. ;)
We statted them up in Pathfinder #22, actually... I think that's what Gorbacz was coughing about. They're not open content, but that doesn't mean you can't use them in your Pathfinder game at all.
2) The extra "3" is a typo in the blog post. There should be no 3 there at all.
Fixed. :-)
Ooooh! Aaaaah!Fixed. :-)
2) The extra "3" is a typo in the blog post. There should be no 3 there at all.Woo hoo!
And woah... look at the fancy new shading on quotes!!!!
Shiny?
I wonder how much quoting of quotes we'll manage before it gives up...
Shouldn't the Kamadan have all-round vision?
I'll picking this up just days before a convention. I haven't finalized what I'm doing yet. So this will definitely give some more critters to play with.
MHAHAHAHAHA!!! soon my squishy caster PCs will fear the dreaded purple...i mean...leopard printed cat....with tentacles...i mean..snakes...yeah snakes, coming out of its back
(lol Paizo for the win)
*edit oh and there ones that fly holy crap yes this is my new favorite kitty
Shouldn't the Kamadan have all-round vision?Nah. His snakes are near-sighted and almost blind.
How almost? -3?
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However much it takes to not let the kamadan have all-around vision. No more, no less.How almost? -3?Shouldn't the Kamadan have all-round vision?Nah. His snakes are near-sighted and almost blind.
Ok... Now I want one of our artists to draw a Kamadan w.glasses.
However much it takes to not let the kamadan have all-around vision. No more, no less.How almost? -3?Shouldn't the Kamadan have all-round vision?Nah. His snakes are near-sighted and almost blind.
You've won this round, James Jacobs, but next time, it won't be so easy!
Muahahahaha-
Your right Epic Meepo the arctic version doesn't have any cold resistance or immunity.
Ok... Now I want one of our artists to draw a Kamadan w.glasses.However much it takes to not let the kamadan have all-around vision. No more, no less.How almost? -3?Shouldn't the Kamadan have all-round vision?Nah. His snakes are near-sighted and almost blind.
They wear corrective lenses those days.
We statted them up in Pathfinder #22, actually... I think that's what Gorbacz was coughing about. They're not open content, but that doesn't mean you can't use them in your Pathfinder game at all.*whisper *sadly copyright exist*cough* Coeurl *cough*Excellent! Paizo fires up the WABAC Machine and fields a replacement for the displacer beast. As Mairkurion said, "Well played."Except for the displacement part. ;)
Coeurl also wasn't game content, and I doubt A.E. Van Vogt's estate or whatever publisher has current rights to The Voyage of the Space Beagle* would mind that creature turning up in Pathfinder; it's free advertising, after all, and doesn't include nearly enough content from the story to constitute an actionable infringement of their copyright -- most book reviews would probably include more.
* Or would that be Erik Mona? It seems like exactly the sort of thing he'd snap up for Planet Stories if it happened to be out of print with the rights available for a reasonable price.
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Coeurl also wasn't game content, and I doubt A.E. Van Vogt's estate or whatever publisher has current rights to The Voyage of the Space Beagle* would mind that creature turning up in Pathfinder; it's free advertising, after all, and doesn't include nearly enough content from the story to constitute an actionable infringement of their copyright -- most book reviews would probably include more.
* Or would that be Erik Mona? It seems like exactly the sort of thing he'd snap up for Planet Stories if it happened to be out of print with the rights available for a reasonable price.
Actually, we secured permission from Van Vogt's estate to print the stats for the Coeurl, but they didn't want it to be open content, which is why that's one of the few non-open rules bits we've published in a Pathfinder product.
Yeah I remember that AP, the Coeurl is cool, I wish it was open content.
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Yeah I remember that AP, the Coeurl is cool, I wish it was open content.
Why? Do you do a lot of publishing of d20 products?
Open content doesn't matter for games you run or play in. You can use all the coeurls you want in your home game as long as you're not publishing that game as a public resource or product.
It matters if you want to see printed in another product, like a pathfinder beastairy istead of a 3.5 AP.
I'd like to make a request that someone "nudges" WizKids to include a kamadan mini in a future Pathfinder Battles set (or maybe an encounter pack).
Also wouldn't mind seeing the "Dusk" and "Polar" variants as minis too. :)
~Dean
I like the base and Dusk versions, I think they are interesting but the arctic one is weird, it doesn't have cold resistance and the bat wings feel out of place.
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I'm totally going to reflavor the dusk kamadan as a lion with cobra heads peeking out of it's mane, for use in Osirion.
The nastier version will be a dire lion with *spitting* cobra heads... :)
Was it created in the Nexian flesh-forges? Did the cult of Lamashtu have something to do with it's creation? Did the mysterious naga have a hand in framing it's cruel symmetry? Yes. To all.
Thanks to a Qadiri satrap, who brought some back for his personal menagerie (and their subsequent escape), they can also be found in Qadira, now.