In PF1, it was Planar Adaptation.
I can't find an equivalent in PF2, so if I was looking to run an extended adventure I would probably homebrew a ritual that did it.
Previous thread for reference.
What's funny is it's the same person asking, and I have the same basic response then as I did now.
Neat.
Maybe a ritual would be better, I'll think again on that and what it would involve.
My initial thought is that the ritual would basically just shut off the effects of extreme/severe temperature completely.
And that the party would be required to invest in Energy Resistant runes to mitigate other fire damage.
And I understand that the amount of fire damage the plane of fire deals is on average more than what runes would mitigate (although I honestly can't find where it spells out how much fire damage the plane should deal each round).
So I would also have this custom ritual double the effect of energy resistant runes, but only against damage from the plane/environment.
So there would be a quest to find the ritual and possibly to get runes of high enough quality to protect the party from the environmental effects of the plane, without doing much against the typical residents of the plane.
In the fire section of Rage of Elements, it points out that the major cities of the plane of fire have magically controlled temperatures so that creatures from other planes can survive.
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In the fire section of Rage of Elements, it points out that the major cities of the plane of fire have magically controlled temperatures so that creatures from other planes can survive.
I'm assuming that adventures will take place outside of those "safe" locations, at least partially.
But a quest inside one of those cities to get the ritual and runes would be quite reasonable, to then lead into adventures outside of those safe areas.
Otherwise it's kind of like saying "we're going to explore the ocean" but you only go scuba diving, ignoring you know, like 99% of the Ocean.
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Planar Survival
Feat 7
General Skill
Source Player Core pg. 259 2.0
Prerequisites master in Survival
You can Subsist using Survival on different planes, even those without resources or natural phenomena you normally need. For instance, you can forage for food without penalty even if the plane lacks food that could normally sustain you. A success on your check to Subsist also prevents damage done by the plane to you and anyone else you support with Subsist. This applies only to damage dealt by the general conditions of the plane, not smaller hazards
That is a great option if you had someone planning to invest in Survival already, which isn't necessarily a given.
While I find Survival to be an awesome thematic skill, I don't actually find it to be that effective unless the campaign focuses on making survival difficult (which my group generally doesn't do because we don't find it fun).
I do also question if it's really intended to prevent all damage because I'm looking at Legendary Survivalist which says:
You can survive indefinitely without food or water and can endure severe, extreme, and incredible cold and heat without taking damage from doing so.
It's a little funny to me that Planar Survival would eat so much of the lunch of a legendary skill by saying it prevents "all damage done by the plane" when Legendary Survivalist only prevents Severe/Extreme/Incredible temperatures, when the Plane of Fire damage even exceeds those damage.
That feels very disjointed to me, that you could survive unimpeded on the plane of fire, but if you were next to a volcano on Golarion you would be having a bad day.
Good info, but yeah that makes it even more wild to me that the level 7 skill feat can protect from damage even more than the level 15 legendary feat can.
I do also question if it's really intended to prevent all damage because I'm looking at Legendary Survivalist which says:
You can survive indefinitely without food or water and can endure severe, extreme, and incredible cold and heat without taking damage from doing so.It's a little funny to me that Planar Survival would eat so much of the lunch of a legendary skill by saying it prevents "all damage done by the plane" when Legendary Survivalist only prevents Severe/Extreme/Incredible temperatures, when the Plane of Fire damage even exceeds those damage.
Planar damage doesn't interact with temperature at all, and no amount of environmental protection will help you in even the safe/low damage areas. It seems contextually clear that it's not just a matter of the plane being hot but some actual force being exerted on outsiders.
Like remember, a creature native to the plane of fire with no resistance or environmental adaptations is taking zero damage in this scenario. So it's clearly not a weather thing.
Plus none of the benefits of Planar Survival overlap with Legendary Survivalist or vice versa, so no one is really eating anyone's lunch here. They're just entirely different feats interacting with entirely different mechanics.
That feels very disjointed to me, that you could survive unimpeded on the plane of fire, but if you were next to a volcano on Golarion you would be having a bad day.
While I agree there's a tiny hint of oddness at first blush, neither Planar Survival or Legendary Survivalist protect against fire damage from a fireball either. Feels kind of like that here.
Good info, but yeah that makes it even more wild to me that the level 7 skill feat can protect from damage even more than the level 15 legendary feat can.
This will be true of any lower level feat that provides a specific defensive benefit when compared to a higher level feat that has nothing to do with the mechanic the lower level feat references. In fact it would be very strange if that weren't the case.
I guess my issue is that the environmental rules for incredible hot temperatures deal moderate damage (4d6 up to 6d6) every minute.
Meanwhile, the plane of fire rules say extraplanar creatures take moderate damage every round, calling it "environmental damage".
So yes, I get that technically the damage from the plane of fire isn't specifically from temperature (although it's hard to imagine it isn't related, it should be like Incredible+ temperatures).
I guess what I'm saying, is in my mind make the effect of Legendary Survivalist the 7th level feat, and the effect of Planar Survival the 15th level legendary feat. And then it makes more sense to me.
At first you can deal with the effects of "mundane" but incredible temperatures found on the material plane. Later you get so good that you can even avoid the more extreme effects of the planes.
Like remember, a creature native to the plane of fire with no resistance or environmental adaptations is taking zero damage in this scenario. So it's clearly not a weather thing.
I see that stated as a thing, but again it doesn't make sense to me either. If you were somehow a non-extraplanar Human, you wouldn't take the damage and that just doesn't sit right with me. We also don't have a definition of what Extraplanar is in PF2, at least not that I can find. I understand what it means in past editions, where the difference was Native vs Extraplanar. But you could have weird instances where a Human was born on the plane of fire and was treated as a Native to the Plane, similar to how Aasimar or Tiefling were Native Outsiders in PF1.
I guess ultimately my problem is the whole "oh this damage is because your not native to plane, and it's completely separate from environmental damage".
Which actually has the problem of you should also probably be taking environmental damage separate from the Planar damage because it is also probably incredibly hot.