Pathfinder savant and scrolls


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Due to a recent adventure my dwarf arcanist rogue no longer is considering Arcane Trickster. Instead Pathfinder Savant works better for him. Estoric magic is pretty clear. Planning on a few spells from cleric and druid. Maybe pick up LeadBlade for when he has to go melee.
My question is the ability to use scrolls at your caster level. Here's my idea want to know if this is a loophole I'm seeing or not. I take Scribe Scroll make a bunch of First and Second level scrolls. Shield, Lead Blade maybe a few damaging spells such as Magic Missile. Scrolls of First level are relatively cheap. I then use those same scroll at my caster level. So First level scroll of Magic Missile is one missile. My level would be 7th. so four missiles for 25 gold.
Am I reading and using this correctly? Carry a few first level scrolls to compliment the spells chosen for the day.


The scroll would only cost 12.5 gp because you are crafting it, but yes, once you get to level 3 Pathfinder Savant with the Scroll Master ability that works. But you can only craft 1 scroll each day, so if you are looking to beef out your casting ability with extra low level, just stock up at the store. You get better value out of Scribe Scroll when you are scribing higher level things.


Keep in mind that casting a spell from a scroll does provoke an attack of opportunity. You also will probably need to take a move action to retrieve the scroll, which also provokes an attack of opportunity. You can use the cast defensively to avoid provoking from casting, but not form retrieving the scroll. This is going to limit the usefulness of casting spells from a scroll in combat.

The best use for scrolls is for situational and utility spells. In your case long lasting spells would also be worthwhile. Use your memorized spells strictly for combat spells and scrolls for everything else. Have at least one scroll for every spell that you don’t normally memorize so if the situation comes up that you need that spell you just pull out a scroll.


Lelomenia wrote:
The scroll would only cost 12.5 gp because you are crafting it, but yes, once you get to level 3 Pathfinder Savant with the Scroll Master ability that works. But you can only craft 1 scroll each day, so if you are looking to beef out your casting ability with extra low level, just stock up at the store. You get better value out of Scribe Scroll when you are scribing higher level things.

You can put multiple spells on a given scroll, so 1 per day isn't much of a limitation. Also, many gm's will allow "batch" creation of scrolls - multiple copies of a given scroll, up to your GP limit for the crafting session...


pad300 wrote:
Lelomenia wrote:
The scroll would only cost 12.5 gp because you are crafting it, but yes, once you get to level 3 Pathfinder Savant with the Scroll Master ability that works. But you can only craft 1 scroll each day, so if you are looking to beef out your casting ability with extra low level, just stock up at the store. You get better value out of Scribe Scroll when you are scribing higher level things.
You can put multiple spells on a given scroll, so 1 per day isn't much of a limitation. Also, many gm's will allow "batch" creation of scrolls - multiple copies of a given scroll, up to your GP limit for the crafting session...
crb wrote:
Although an individual scroll might contain more than one spell, each spell must be scribed as a separate effort, meaning that no more than 1 spell can be scribed in a day.

doesnt appear to be the case unfortunately.

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pad300 wrote:
Lelomenia wrote:
The scroll would only cost 12.5 gp because you are crafting it, but yes, once you get to level 3 Pathfinder Savant with the Scroll Master ability that works. But you can only craft 1 scroll each day, so if you are looking to beef out your casting ability with extra low level, just stock up at the store. You get better value out of Scribe Scroll when you are scribing higher level things.
You can put multiple spells on a given scroll, so 1 per day isn't much of a limitation. Also, many gm's will allow "batch" creation of scrolls - multiple copies of a given scroll, up to your GP limit for the crafting session...

I doubt I will allow that, especially with a Pathfinder Savant in the playing group.


An idea I had not sure it's worth it was take one level of Cypher mage pick up the ability to create two scrolls a day. It depends on how things progress. Staying out of combat is my whole goal.
One GM of mine allowed me to have blank scrolls. I paid the cost of them and left them blank usually intending them to be the spells I normally wouldn't memorize. Identify and such. I use a scroll state what the spell was at the time of casting. Since most times I used them out of combat he allowed that.

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