Odd question, but I just noticed that Bestiary 2 added two additional elephants that aren't hugely different to the Bestiary 1 elephants, as well as an elephant construct - I'm not sure if I am complaining exactly, just mildly perplexed.
This brings us up to a total of 6 elephants or elephant based creatures in PF2 so far
Anacus
Aolaz
Elephant
Iridescent Elephant
Mammoth
Mastodon
Is someone at Paizo just a big fan of elephants? Do the Anacus and Mastodon fill some niche that the Elephant and Mammoth don't that I am just not seeing? Am I overthinking this?
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Is someone at Paizo just a big fan of elephants?
We've also got four kinds of big cats and four kinds of bears. Having a wider range of animals at higher level isn't a bad thing, and elephants are fun.
I think we found our suspect.
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We've also got four kinds of big cats and four kinds of bears.
That is a totally unacceptable amount of bears and cats!!! We demand equal treatment!!! Rabble, rabble, rabble, rabble!!!
* brought to you by the Committee Advocating for equal Treatment of felines and ursines.
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I think we found our suspect.
Ding-Ding-Ding-Ding! We have a winner!
Evidence of this - There are zero Bison or Buffalo in the PF2 rules and exactly ONE in all ten years of PF1 with over a dozen Elephants in that time for the 1st ed.
We have a Pachyderm fanboy quietly pushing buttons inside the purple Golem.
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We've also got four kinds of big cats and four kinds of bears.That is a totally unacceptable amount of bears and cats!!! We demand equal treatment!!! Rabble, rabble, rabble, rabble!!!
* brought to you by the Committee Advocating for equal Treatment of felines and ursines.
This lack of Ursines is Un-Bear-able!
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This lack of Ursines is Un-Bear-able!We've also got four kinds of big cats and four kinds of bears.That is a totally unacceptable amount of bears and cats!!! We demand equal treatment!!! Rabble, rabble, rabble, rabble!!!
* brought to you by the Committee Advocating for equal Treatment of felines and ursines.
The lack of Felines IS a Cat-astrophe!
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But still I don't think them adding more pachyderms is irr-elephant to my games.
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Clearly elephants are awesome and any monster that is not an elephants is clearly ilrelphant.
It's Claw-ful! A truly Fur-midable problem. Maybe it's Paw-sibile to change Un-fur-tunate Mew-sery. It's enough to give a cat an In-fur-iority complex!
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Can you believe not Ivory one appreciate elephant puns? It's not like it was a Mammoth undertaking..
What isthe deal with all the dragons, 20 types in bestiary 1 alone.
What isthe deal with all the dragons, 20 types in bestiary 1 alone.
I think it is fine, since there is a mechanical advantage. I am pretty sure that the summon dragon spell is the single most fleshed out summoning spell in the game. And the general versatility of dragons makes it feel like the summoner is getting bang for his buck, even at high levels.
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Is someone at Paizo just a big fan of elephants?We've also got four kinds of big cats and four kinds of bears. Having a wider range of animals at higher level isn't a bad thing, and elephants are fun.I think we found our suspect.
Nope. I didn't order the creatures for the book. That was mostly Stephen Radney MacFarland. I just ordered the art for the book.
I suppose it is good to have more options at different creature levels for stuff like summon animal?
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I suppose it is good to have more options at different creature levels for stuff like summon animal?
You never know when you might need to run a encounter with a army that uses elephants (cough hannibal cough). I also like to think it gives me a good idea of the scale of monsters. like how bad is it? well is it as bad as a angry elephant?
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I'm just glad we finally got a hippopotamus in Bestiary 2. Hippos are the scariest herbivores!
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I'm just glad we finally got a hippopotamus in Bestiary 2. Hippos are the scariest herbivores!
Scarier then a good portion of carnivores too.
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I'd like to point out that while picture for construct looks like elephant, the description text actually says it can look like anything since its a construct :p
"Most aolazes are built in the shape of great land-bound beasts, such as elephants, rhinoceroses, or dinosaurs. "
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Bring on the pygmy elephants!
It's hard to pick between that, pygmy mammoths or a dwarf elephants. ;)
What? No Heffalumps?
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What? No Heffalumps?Only if we also get woozles.
Minitaurs are cuter.
What? No Heffalumps?Only if we also get woozles.
And the ability to summon both as part of a musical number.
Is the British, I mean Brevoyish, accent mandatory?
Is THAT what happened to Choral the conqueror?
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I won't be happy until we have an Ancient Psychic Tandem War Elephant.
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Alfalfafont - if it's Huge+, the mini could be a chia pet.
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I'm waiting for the Telephantikineticist.
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Other potential areas to explore:
Hellephant
Elephantom
Elfaphant
Elephaunt
As the creative director of PF2, you have the power to make all of these things a reality.
Please do so. I never realized how badly I need elephantoms until now.
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All this has made me want to drink an Ele-Fanta.
And let us not forget the grandest, greatest of them all!
Holy Samwise Gamgee that thing is big oliphant.
I needed him stated out for my high CR pachyderm needs.
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And let us not forget the grandest, greatest of them all!Holy Samwise Gamgee that thing is big oliphant.
I needed him stated out for my high CR pachyderm needs.
Was CR30 in PF1 (stats are in Mythic Realms, I think). I don't think we're ready to have anything that high in PF2 yet, since there's no conceivable PC party that wouldn't just "die instantly" in that fight and there's no reason to spend column inches on "here's how fast you die."
I don't think there'd be a discount either, since the Tarrasque went from CR25 to Level 25 in the edition switch. So a party of Tarrasques sees the Oliphant of Jandelay as more than an extreme threat.
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I'm just glad we finally got a hippopotamus in Bestiary 2. Hippos are the scariest herbivores!
Cue me helping my brother (we're both massive bio nerds) come up with an actually reasonable statblock for hippos in a certain other system that likes to underlevel its "mundane" animals... Only to look at the PF2 bestiary and see that every tiny thing I'd mentioned was in the entry. Even the natural sunscreen, for Aroden's sake!
If you look at the description of the Biblical Behemoth, counterpart of Leviathan and Ziz, you'll just get a description of a hippo in scripture. They are quite literally mythically powerful and it's nice to see Pathfinder give them their dues.
It inspired frickin Groudon!
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Oh, also elephants are cool, and if anyone says otherwise I'd be happy to take them to tusk over it. I could go on, but I should trunk-ate my message here so I don't goad anyone too much. ;)
All this has made me want to drink an Ele-Fanta.
It's all Elefant and games until it opens fire with its 88mm gun.