Crossblooded Wildblooded Sorcerer?


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


I know this subject has been breached on this website in the forums, however, the discussed matter didn't sit well with me. I wanted to pose a thought:

Wildblooded (Umbral) states that it "replaces the shadow bloodline arcana", it does not say, "alters bloodline" or "replaces bloodline".

Here is my point. It is not altering bloodline arcana in relation to the Crossblooded ability which states that you get to choose two bloodline arcanas. The ability states, "A crossblooded sorcerer gains the bloodline arcana of both her bloodlines." Therefore, the target isn't the bloodline arcana, but the bloodline.

Since wildblooded isn't altering the bloodline to be something different (you are still a shadow bloodline), the arcana will still work together with the crossblooded. What are your thoughts?


Pretty sure if two archetypes modify the same class feature in any way, then they're not compatible. Wildblooded is modifying the bloodline, and Crossblooded is also modifying the bloodline.

Personally, I'd rule of cool it because it's not game-breaking or overpowered, but strictly RAW, I don't think this works.


These two not mixing comes out of the archetype rules which state that if two archetypes modify the same class feature then you can't take both archetypes, regardless what the modification is.

That being said, there are situations where it doesn't make sense that one archetype stops you from taking another one. For example, there are 2 brawler archetypes that can't be taken together because both of them give you stealth as a class skill. They do not overlap in any other way. In those cases most reasonable DMs will allow you to take both archetypes even though they technically conflict. It doesn't change the fact that by RAW they can't be taken together. If you feel that Crossblooded and Wildblooded fall into this category then take it up with your DM.


RAW, no. There is a FAQ that says so.


thorin001 wrote:
RAW, no. There is a FAQ that says so.

The FAQ also says that they don’t see any issue with allowing wildblood to be combined with other archetypes and basically treating it like sub domains/sub schools... ultimately the decision as to how wildblood is handled falls on the DM.


Chell Raighn wrote:
thorin001 wrote:
RAW, no. There is a FAQ that says so.
The FAQ also says that they don’t see any issue with allowing wildblood to be combined with other archetypes and basically treating it like sub domains/sub schools... ultimately the decision as to how wildblood is handled falls on the DM.

Yeah, I see no problem with it tbh. It's not overpowered.


Crossblooded is a massive trap. Anything that helps foolish players fall into it has got to be a good thing.


As a crossblooded sorcerer, you can get some powers from a wildblooded bloodline via the Exotic Heritage feat (and Eldritch Heritage etc.).

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