How many times can you use a metamagic rod?


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I think only one?


Each Rod defines how many times it can be used. In most cases, a rod gives 3 uses per day, and it doesn't change based on whether it's lesser, standard, or greater.


Other than what GM Rednal indicates there is no limit with standard Metamagic Rods. They could be used, typically 3 times 'daily', until the Rod ceased to exist, i.e. got Disintegrated, Disjoined, tossed into a volcano etc., there are no charges or the like limitations upon a metamagic rod.


Just in case people have misunderstood what you are asking, you can't use a metamagic feat more than once on the same spell, i.e. you can't cast and Empowered, Empowered Fireball. So those 3 uses per day have to be spent on 3 separate spells.


Also, you can only use one metamagic rod per spell, though you can use one or more metamagic feats in addition to a single rod.


blahpers wrote:
Also, you can only use one metamagic rod per spell, though you can use one or more metamagic feats in addition to a single rod.

Is that an actual rule? I mean, yeah, a "normal" PC has 2 hands, needs 1 to hold the rod, and 1 to make any somatic components & manipulate the material components. However, if you had Still Spell, you could have 2 hands free for 2 rods, not to mention Kasatha have 4 arms...


That is part of the general rules for metamagic rods.

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pad300 wrote:
blahpers wrote:
Also, you can only use one metamagic rod per spell, though you can use one or more metamagic feats in addition to a single rod.
Is that an actual rule? I mean, yeah, a "normal" PC has 2 hands, needs 1 to hold the rod, and 1 to make any somatic components & manipulate the material components. However, if you had Still Spell, you could have 2 hands free for 2 rods, not to mention Kasatha have 4 arms...

http://legacy.aonprd.com/coreRulebook/magicItems/rods.html

Metamagic Rods wrote:

Metamagic rods hold the essence of a metamagic feat, allowing the user to apply metamagic effects to spells (but not spell-like abilities) as they are cast. This does not change the spell slot of the altered spell. All the rods described here are use-activated (but casting spells in a threatened area still draws an attack of opportunity). A caster may only use one metamagic rod on any given spell, but it is permissible to combine a rod with metamagic feats possessed by the rod's wielder. In this case, only the feats possessed by the wielder adjust the spell slot of the spell being cast.

Possession of a metamagic rod does not confer the associated feat on the owner, only the ability to use the given feat a specified number of times per day. A sorcerer still must take a full-round action when using a metamagic rod, just as if using a metamagic feat he possesses (except for quicken metamagic rods, which can be used as a swift action).


You can use them as often as you want. However, each specific rod usually has a limit of times per day that rod can be used. There is nothing preventing you from using another rod of the same type, so you can get mor than one rod's limit.

That said, I rarely have seen a need to use more than three per day of a given rod.

/cevah

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