What monsters are you hoping to be redone in 2e

[Mechagamera]

It seems like we could split the difference on gods by having stats for avatars of the gods. You can't punch Asmodeus in the face, but you can try to hit his CR 30 avatar of tyranny.

[Igwilly]

Avatars are good, great, but I want stat blocks for the all deities themselves.
Like that old-school AD&D 1e Deities & Demigods, but with more information about them than only stat blocks ^^

Speaking of which, the immortal rulers:
Empyreal Lords, Archdevils, etc.
I want them to be properly done as well ^^
And reformulated, to be better organized than "there's a bunch of random rulers for these guys".

[Talek & Luna]

I would like to see demons & devils redone. Also would like for giants to be a bit better than they are now. I would also like materials be removed for damage purposes except for the most iconic creatures like werewolves. I would like a simpler rule for damage reduction. Most creatures should suffer half damage unless they are hit by magical weapons. Certain powerful creatures (such as demons, devils, angels, certain undead) should suffer half damage unless hit by a +2, +3 or greater type of weapon. Please don't force me to carry around five different great swords so I have the correct material (silver, cold iron, adamantium) to effect a creature

[Subparhiggins]

Pretty much all animals in order to make the Summon Monster/Summon Natures ally lists more spoiled for choice.

[Fuzzypaws]

Giants definitely need a ton of improvement. And there should be no such thing as a Large giant, not even a lowly Hill Giant. Large is the domain of Ogres and Trolls and other "lesser giantkin," but all true giants should be at least Huge for the lesser variety or Gargantuan for the greater variety.

And I wouldn't mind seeing Titans of the next size up for each of the Giant types, if that's not too 4E for people :P

[AlgaeNymph]

Igwilly wrote:

Speaking of which, the immortal rulers:

Empyreal Lords, Archdevils, etc.
I want them to be properly done as well ^^

Thank you, thank you. Always good to show support. ^_^

Igwilly wrote:

And reformulated, to be better organized than "there's a bunch of random rulers for these guys".

Hm? Would you elaborate?

[Weather Report]

Fuzzypaws wrote:

Giants definitely need a ton of improvement. And there should be no such thing as a Large giant, not even a lowly Hill Giant. Large is the domain of Ogres and Trolls and other "lesser giantkin," but all true giants should be at least Huge for the lesser variety or Gargantuan for the greater variety.

This is the way 5th Ed has handled it.

[Awahoon]

BESTIARY 1 LIST:

- ANGELS
I really hope Pathfinder is gonna use its own Angels instead of just using the D&D angels in bestiary 1 (2nd edition). You have creativity and power enough to create your own angels. Some angels I would like to see: Nike (Angel of Victory), Valkyrie (Angel of Battle and Bravery), Zana (Guardian Angel), Charite (Angel of Joy and Happiness), Erinyes (Angel of Vengeance), Keres (Angel of Death), Nemain (Angel of War), Erote (Angel of Love), Anteros (Angel of Hate), Ishim (Angel of Fire and Ice) And many others. The Solar is the only D&D angel I’m really a fan of, so seeing it again would be cool I guess, the others are really boring in my opinion.

- ANIMATED OBJECT
I really hope these get replaced with the Tsukumogami.

- BARGHEST
Really hope this is mixed with the Shadow Mastiff and turned into a proper Black Dog monster, the old Barghest model can be used for the Bugbear instead.

- BEETLE
Bombardier Beetle should get art and its own entry, not only be named, it’s the most interesting beetle out there! Cut the Fire Beetle, don’t see why it is so special… It’s so D&D anyway.

- BOGGART
Hope they get replaced by the Vodyanoi.

- BUGBEAR
I hope they become more like animalistic small bogeymen, and not like the D&D clones.

- CHIMERA
Hope you make up your own model, and not use the D&D model…

- DIRE ANIMALS
I hope you all give these animals a proper name like the Dire Crocodile should be just Sarcosuchus.

- DARKMANTLE
That thing shouldn’t be in the first Bestiary…

- DEMONS
Really hope to see more Pathfinder Demons and Demons from Mythology in the first Bestiary, and not just D&D Demons… Balor, Glabrezu, Marilith, Vrock, and Succubus could be the only demons in Bestiary 1 from D&D.

- DEVILS
I’m against the devils being different from the Demons, I would remove the group, and just keep it at DIV, ASURA, DAEMONS, and DEMONS. Place the best devils in other groups. But I’m sure that isn’t going to happen, but it is my personal opinion. This devils vs demons are so overdone anyway. Hamatula, Osyluth, Imp, and Gelugon can be placed in other groups as they have pretty awesome designs.

- ERINYES
I would turn this into a fallen angel, which are with the angel group not with the Demons/Devils.

- DEVOURER
I would like to see it replaced with the less-D&D like Hinkir Munkur.

- METALLIC DRAGONS
Please NO, or make them much more interesting…

- DROW
I wouldn’t mind them getting a name-over into Dokkalfar or Svartalfar.

- GIANTS
I hope these D&D Giants gets more special abilities and cooler appearances, they really don’t do it for me right now.

- GORGON
I really hope this thing is renamed into Khalkotauroi, and Medusa is renamed into Gorgon. Medusa being a legendary named Gorgon.

- GRAY OOZE, BLACK PUDDING, most D&D oozes
Hope you will put some of your own unique oozes into the first Bestiary 1 (2nd edition) instead of these rather featureless boring oozes from D&D.

- HALF-THINGS
Never cared for these random D&D-half templates. Hope they go.

- HELL HOUND
Hope they are replaced with the Cerberus from Bestiary 3.

- HOBGOBLIN
I’m not a fan of them, but if they are in (which they probably are) I hope they get a cool makeover.

- HYDRA
Much higher CR, please.

- INVISIBLE STALKER
Mythology has MANY invisible creatures to choose from (Parandrus for example) so I hope they are cut.

- KOBOLD
Never liked these strange D&D versions, hope they get a revamp into a pathfinder-worthy version.

- GIANT MANTIS
Why most insects and arachnids have like 10 variants, but the Mantis doesn’t have those? Hope this changes!

- NIGHT HAG
Should be renamed into Nocnitsa.

- NYMPH
This is more like a collective-name for a group of creatures, hope pathfinder uses different Nymphs now, like elemental nymphs such as Oread (earth), Poludnica (light), Samodiva (fire), Veela (air), Nereid (water) and Lampad (darkness) and animal-based nymphs such as Huldra (beasts), Bisan (vermin) and Oceanid (sea creatures). Also plant nymphs like Dryad (trees), Askafroa (corrupted Dryad), Abere (water plants), Achlys (poison plants) and Anthousai (flowers).

- HIPPOGRIFF
Bestiary 1 really doesn’t need Hippogriff, Pegasus, AND Griffon in it.

- PSEUDODRAGON
I have found some much cuter and awesome small familiar-like dragons for Pathfinder: Qiuniu which is a music-based drake, the Fuxi which is a book/literature drake, Penezny Smij which is a gold/treasure based drake.

- RETRIEVER
Who needs a retriever when you already have a Bebilith?

- SALAMANDER
I really hope to see a more mythology-accurate Salamander in Bestiary 1, but I do like the D&D Salamander as well, hope you can figure that out.

- SKUM
Really hope these disappear in the next version, and are just called Deep Ones.

- GIANT SLUG
What about Lou Carcolh?

- TARRASQUE
I know they are very popular in D&D, but I hope to see a more mythology based Tarasque, and give the Tarrasque status to Leviathan or Behemoth (or both). The D&D Tarrasque design could come back in the Odontotyrannus.

- VAMPIRE
Hope they are renamed into Moroi, vampire is more like a group-name.

- VARGOUILLE
Rather see Chon Chon in there.

- WOLVERINE
Rather see the Dire Wolverine be turned into a Gulon.

All other monsters are fine I guess, not a fan of some others like Xorn, Tiefling and such, but I guess you can’t like every single monster in a book so I wouldn’t mind them at all.

[Brew Bird]

I just want a gorilla that that isn't weaker than a level 1 human. I mean, 15 strength? come on!

[Alexander Augunas]

HARPIES.

[dysartes]

Alexander Augunas wrote:

HARPIES.

See a Cleric for a casting of Remove Disease to take care of that ;)

I know it isn't a popular answer - and there's no way it will be in Bestiary 1 - but I'm looking forward to Zygomind 2.0.