The Tarrasque is important to D&D it is, I actually hope we get a more mythology-accurate Tarasque this time around.
And less, far less Robots, they should stay in greater numbers in your favorite starfinder.
James Jacobs wrote:
I meant to say, more mythology creatures from Bestiary 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6, which are less changed by D&D like the Chimera and Barghest are.
Also more bizarre, obscure mythology creatures, like Papinijuwari and Abaia for example.
But thanks for that answer, that's pretty cool!
Another question, are the Rusalka, Eloko, Mokele-Mbembe, Asanbosam and Kishi in Bestiary 2? The mythology creatures from the Adventure Paths? I wouldn't mind seeing ALL the AP bestiary monsters in the upcoming bestiaries.
Also may I really say that the Furcifur is an awesome creature that really needs more attention in Pathfinder 2nd Edition!
The ones from the old Bestiaries that I want back the most are:
Abaia / Adaro / Ahkhat / Ahuizotl / Akaname / Almiraj / Alpluachra / Alraune / Amarok / Assassin Bug / Aurumvorax / Bakekujira / Bandersnatch / Banelight / Baykok / Blightspawn / Bodythief / Bogeyman / Bone Ship / Buggane / Cave Fisher / Charybdis / Cherufe / Choker / Chon Chon / Chupacabra / Cipactli / Cordulegaster / Corpse Lotus / Crawling Hand / Crysmal / Cuero / Daemon, Crucidaemon / Daemon, Hydrodaemon / Daemon, Meladaemon / Daemon, Phasmadaemon / Daemon, Sangudaemon / Daemon, Purrodaemon / Daemon, Thanadaemon / Danthienne / Death Worm / Deathtrap Ooze / Decapus / Delgeth / Demon, Abrikandilu / Demon, Babau / Demon, Coloxus / Demon, Kalavakus / Demon, Omox / Demon, Shadow / Destrachan / Devil, Zebub / Devil, Hamatula / Devil, Osyluth / Devil, Sarglagon / Devil, Gambling / Devil, Levaloch / Devourer / Dinosaur, Pachycephalosaurus / Dinosaur, Therizinosaurus / Dinosaur, Tylosaurus / Disenchanter / Div, Bushyasta / Div, Druj Nasu / Div, Ghawwas / Div, Shira / Drake, Mist / Dunkleosteus / Dust Digger / Dybbuk / Echeneis / Ecorche / Erlking / Euryale / Fachen / Fen Mauler / Flail Snail / Fossegrim / FURCIFER / Gammenore / Gashadokuro / Gearghost / Giant Mantis Shrimp / Girtablilu / Gloomwing / Golem, Bone / Golem, Coral / Golem, Glass / Golem, Gold / Golem, Junk / Golem, Magnetite / Gorynych / Grodair / Hungry Fog / Hyakume / Hypnalis / Ijiraq / Iku-Turso / Incutilis / Intellect Devourer / Isonade / Ixion Worm / Jack-o-Lantern / Jinmenju / Jorogumo / Jubjub Bird / Juggernaut / Kamaitachi / Karkadann / Karkinoi / Kikimora / Kokogiak / Kongamato (more like the Yrthak) / Korir-Kokembe / Krenshar / Kyton, Normal / Kyton, Augur / Kyton, Eremite / Kyton, Interlocutor / Lampad + Queen / Leaf Ray / Leucrotta / Lorelei / Lovelorn / Mandragora / Mihstu / Mngwa / Mobogo / Mohrg / Moldwretch / Mothman / Mudlord / Myceloid / Nekomata / Nependis / NUCKELAVEE / Nue / Nulmind / Oni, Kigyo / Oni, Nogitsune / Onyvolan / Oread + Queen / Ostovite / PAPINIJUWARI / Pard / Peluda / PERYTON / Peuchen / Plankta / Polong / Poludnica / Popobala / Pukwudgie / Psoglav / Pyrausta / PYROPISCIS / Qalupalik / Quickling / Quickwood / Raiju / Rakshasa, Raktavarna / Rat King / Rawhead / Remacera / Riftcreeper / Rokurokubi / Rusalka / Saguaroi / Sargassum Fiend / Scitalis / Scrapshell / Scrivenite / SCYLLA / Sea bonze or Umibozu / Sha / Shard Slag / Shasalqu / Slithering Pit / Soulsliver / Skrik Nettle / Stymphalides / Su / Thunderbird / Tikbalang / Tiyanak / Tooth Fairy / Totenmaske / Tunche / Vilderavn / Viper Vine / Vodyanoi / Vouivre / Water Orm / Water Strider, giant / Whirlmaw / Witchfire / Wizard’s Shackle / Xenopterid / Ypotryll / Yuki-Onna / Zomok / Leanan Sidhe / Drakaina
And FINALLY, a non Construct, non Ooze, non Humanoid beast-like creature that uses magnetism as a weapon.
Some creature that has powers like the Ravid from D&D, animating objects around it.
Also, aren't Robots more for the Starfinder Alien Archives now?
I'm still bummed that they choose two animated statues of all animated things they could choose :-(
Animated Weapons are awesome!
Animated Huts (like the one from Baba Yaga) are fun too, and perfect as higher level Animated objects.
Animated Treasure Hoards would also be awesome, they are the ultimate protector for your treasure, just animate the treasure itself into a wave of golden coins and jewels.
Of course and Animated Carpet that flies would have been fun too.
Anything is better than the two golem-wannabees I got
That is because the Saxra is more widely known as the Machukuna, and no, I don't think they are protected YET. lol.
Lol, I always wondered why the Polevik was turned into a mushroom man, while the Spanish Trenti would make much more sense for that role.
The most abominable creature in Pathfinder based on mythology though, is the Isitoq in my eyes, nothing like the real myth. Also, I never liked the Kongamato in Pathfinder for some reason, same with the Ankou.
The Pathfinder Ankou could be called the Gaueko, suits it much better.
I also wished Mimic, Doppelganger (instead of Faceless Stalker), Cloaker and Chuul joined the Aboleth group.
Roc joined the Eagle Group.
After seeing Gancanagh in the book, I hoped Karkadann joined the Unicorn group, but alas.
I do hope Cherufe, Mudlord and some others aren't going inside the Mud Elemental and Magma Elemental group in Bestiary 2, but are their own thing.
IF they do add them to these groups, I hope THEY get the artwork, and they not end up like Salamander without artwork.
I like the sahkils, but I understand they are missing out from Bestiary 1, they are probably in 2. I hope Div come back too, the group with the most Mythological Monsters in it. Druj Nasu, Bushyasta, Aghash and Ghawwas were awesome!
Manasaputra on the other hand, I hope they never return, or at least only in Adventure Paths, I was never a fan of those. Also I'm happy there aren't templates in this Bestiaries, I hope they get their own book. Same with Troops.
I also don't understand why Wendigo is a beast now, but I don't really mind it, I would have made it a fiend or Fey.
And yes, why I don't perse like the new fungus in the book, I do love they got their own group, I would have gone with some simpler variants though, and smaller ones, instead of the enormous ones we got.
Seventh Seal wrote:
Cernunnos however, isn't a God people still worship. Kali and others are.
Well, I was pretty wrong there, while Mythology/Cryptid/Folklore monsters are my big passion, a lot of D&D/Pathfinder created monsters are among my favorites as well. Think about Behir, Destrachan, Gloomwing, Bebilith, Leukodaemon, Sangudaemon, that new Grikkitog (which btw is my favorite monster in the book, next to Redcap, Dullahan, Banshee and Wendigo)
It is just that, creatures like the Nuckelavee, Yara-Ma-Yha-Who and Papinijuwari cannot be replaced by things as Armanite, Plague Giants and whatever-is-made-up-to-replace-the Yara.
That is what I meant, but that doesn't mean new monsters cannot be awesome, just the ones that try to replace the mythology monsters are often trying too hard or don't make it close to their awesomeness at all. I don't want them replaced by others, I want them both.
Don't get me wrong, I love many made-up critters from today, but you can't replace monsters like Wendigo, Papinijuwari, Akhlut, Golems, Djinns, Ifrits, Yara-Ma-Yha-Who's and the like with modern made up monsters, I like a good mixture of those. But reading James Jacobs reply made me happy and relieved, can't wait for Bestiary 2!
Seeing Rysky favoriting that reply must mean she doesn't mind more Wendigo-like creatures being used in future Bestiaries, so that is also a nice thing to see.
For me, all monsters are made up eventually, I don't believe in spiritual things and are as atheistic as they come.
Were Nuckelavee at least mentioned during the creation of Bestiary 1 (second Edition)
Or were they a no-go from the start?
Also, are monsters like the Papinijuwari still a thing? Or are they erased from Golarion duh to respect to the cultures? They are among my favorite creatures in pathfinder, so I like to know if waiting for them is even a thing. Seeing Genies, Wendigo, Bunyip, and Golems still being around gives me hope though.
Do you already have a theme for Bestiary 2? Like Asian Myths, Lovecraft Mythos or something like that?
Why didn't Paizo change the D&D Chimera model?
Why didn't paizo renamed the Medusa into Gorgons? Are the D&D Gorgons still a thing or are they renamed Khalkotauroi or something else? Or erased entirely?
It's like the most beautiful art and the ugliest art switched in both first Bestiaries!
Glabrezu was the most awesome art in Bestiary 1 (first edition), but now in 2nd edition is the ugliest artwork in the book.
Griffon was the ugliest artwork in Bestiary 1 (first edition), but now it is one of the most beautiful! LOL
Coincidence or did you guys order this on purpose? :-p
Also, is there already a bestiary 2 wish topic? I'm not gonna create one, but I'm just interested if there is any yet.
I was really surprised the Nuckelavee didn’t make the first Bestiary.
Anyway, these are all the 1st Edition monsters from pathfinder that I really hope make it in Bestiary 2.
Tooth Fairy / Alpluachra / Chon Chon / Crawling Hand / Grindylow / Oread (non playable) / Giant Urchin (any) / Wizard’s Shackle / Akaname / Almiraj / Eurypterid / Echeneis / Jack-o-Lantern / Leaf Ray / Mockingfey / Ostovite / Giant Water Strider / Cave Fisher / Choker / Incutilis / Augur / Raktavarna / Slithering Pit / Soulsliver / Adaro / Assassin Bug / Chupacabra / Crysmal / Abrikandilu / Zebub / Disenchanter / Fungal Crawler / Onyvolan / Pard / Quickling / Spriggan / Ahkhat / Decapus / Gambling Devil / Pachycephalosaurus / Dust Digger / Flail Snail / Fossegrim / Freezing Flow / Gloomwing / Junk Golem / Heikegani / Karkadann / Korred / Lovelorn / Mandragora / Myceloid / Peryton / Scrivenite / Sha / Giant Solifugid / Giant Ant Lion / Blightspawn / Bogwid / Buggane / Cuero / Danthienne / Mist Drake / Fachen / Gearghost / Grodair / Hypnalis / Kikimora / Lampad / Leucrotta / Megatherium / Raiju / Rat King / Saguaroi / Killer Seahorse / Vodyanoi / Ahuizotl / Cordulegaster / Death Worm / Delgeth / Babau / Dunkleosteus / Hungry Fog / Karkinoi / Kyton / Mothman / Mudlord / Nekomata / Kigyo / Remacera / Scrapshell / Skrik Nettle / Stymphalides / Tiyanak / Aatheriexa / Shadow Demon / Levaloch / Mngwa / Moldwretch / Nogitsune / Pukwudgie / Qallupilluk / Totenmaske / Xenopterid / Hydrodaemon / Deathtrap Ooze / Destrachan / Drowning Devil / Druj Nasu / Gammenore / Girtablilu / Bone Golem / Gorgon (Khalkotauroi) / Hellwasp Swarm / Iku-Turso / Intellect Devourer / Maenad / Mihstu / Mohrg / Polong / Pyropiscis / Quickwood / Shard Slag / Su / Svartalfar / Whirlmaw / Yuki-Onna / Aurumvorax / Baykok / Sangudaemon / Osyluth / Giant Mantis Shrimp / Coral Golem / Ijiraq / Nependis / Nuckelavee / Sargassum Fiend / Tikbalang / Witchfire / Yrthak / Abaia / Alp / Bogeyman / Kalavakus / Therizinosaurus / Ghawwas / Magnetite Golem / Kapre / Korir-Kokembe / Mobogo / Nue / Peluda / Peuchen / Water Orm / Carnivorous Crystal / Meladaemon / Hamatula / Devourer / Impundulu / Jinmenju / Nulmind / Amarok / Banelight / Omox / Jorogumo / Kokogiak / Interlocutor / Lorelei / Rusalka / Scitalis / Vouivre / Alraune / Blights / Charybdis / Cherufe / Corpse Lotus / Thanadaemon / Furcifer / Gashadokuro / Ixion Worm / Kamaitachi / Papinijuwari / Viper Vine / Atuikakura / Bodythief / Rawhead / Rokurokubi / Crucidaemon / Dybbuk / Gorynych / Hyakume / Isonade / Jubjub Bird / Popobawa / Riftcreeper / Sea Bonze / Ypotryll / Ecorche / Scylla / Vilderavn / Zomok / Bakekujira / Bandersnatch / Phasmadaemon / Plankta / Tunche / Bone Ship / Purrodaemon / Erlking / Mosslord / Euryale / Eremite / Cipactli / Wood Colossus / Drakainia / Leanan Sidhe / Shen
Overall I like this first Bestiary, some surprises but otherwise a good amount of classics. I hope Bestiary 2 gives me more surprises though, and much more mythological obscurities.
7 / 10
Adam Daigle wrote:
Ahhh my bad, I thought I've read about your departure on this blog! Must confuse you with another! Sorry lol.
I really hope to see the Furcifur in there somewhere, BEST creature created by Paizo in a long time, it would be outrages if we have to wait until Bestiary 3/4 to get one of those. Also give the Skrik Nettle finally some love, very awesome creature that never got from the AP.
Also with a lot of the old bestiary writers gone (Wesley, Adam ect ect) are there still people working on the Mythology creatures(I'm not talking about the usual Minotaurs and Hydras) in there? Like the more unusual ones (Papinijuwari, Lampad, Abaia and Buggane for example)
I'm a bit worried this will be a Lovecraft/Science Fiction/Aboleth/D&D love fest otherwise.
also, please change the model of the Chimera, it is so silly in the D&D version, much awesome things can be done with the Chimerae, it would be a shame to see the D&D copy clone again, this is pathfinder after all, and Chimerae are from mythology, not from D&D.
All the monsters I wish make it back into Pathfinder 2nd Edition Official Bestiaries are:
CR: Drow / Duergar / Orc / Oread / Sylph / Undine / Vishkanya / Changeling / Kitsune / Astomoi / Skinwalker / Strix /
CR 0: Goblin / Kobold / Dire Rat / Skeleton / Stirge / Vegepygmy / Zombie / Giant Cockroach / Crawling Hand / Compsognathus / Grindylow / Sagari / Alpluachra / Grimple / Isitoq / Tooth Fairy / Animate Hair / Hobkins / Nuno / Pyrausta / Ramidreju / Wizard’s Shackle / Biloko / Chon-Chon / Black Spot / Gishvit /
CR 1: Lemure / Gnoll / Goblin Dog / Lizardman / Akata / Giant Amoeba / Jinkin / Hippocampus / Reefclaw / Giant Tick / Atomie / Carbuncle / Festrog / Flumph / Fuath / Death Heads Jellyfish / Nixie / Zoog / Almiraj / Boilborn / Chaneque / Dark Dancer / Dimorphodon / Dossenus / Jack-o-Lantern / Leaf Ray / Ningyo / Pickled Punk / Akaname / Brain Mole / Echeneis / Ostovite / Coral Capuchin / Eurypterid / Gluttongrass / Mockingfey / Wolpertinger / Bogwiggle / Frost Fir / Katroome /
CR 2: Giant Ant / Lantern Archon / Boggard / Bugbear / Cave Fisher / Choker / Imp / Giant Leech / Wererat / Werewolf / Morlock / Sahuagin / Shocker Lizard / Vargouille / Yellow Musk Creeper / Silvanshee / Cassisian Angel / Blindheim / Blink Dog / Cacodaemon / Draugr / Leprechaun / Wereboar / Poltergeist / Sinspawn / Slurk / Soulbound Doll / Triton / Axe Beak / Faerie Dragon / Garden Ooze / Huecuva / Kappa / Augur / Raktavarna / Sasquatch / Tatzlwyrm / Incutilis / Phantom Armor / Pooka / Nosoi / Shredskin / Soulsliver / Weedwhip / Apallie / Chuspiki / Ovinnik / Thought Eater / Water Leaper / Xiao / Giant Belostomatid / Slithering Pit / Swamp Barracuda / Bog Strider / Kijimuna / Ghelarn / Nehushtan / Drexin / Warpglass Ooze / Cat Sith / Panotti / Fading Fox /
CR 3: Ankheg / Centaur / Cockatrice / Derro / Deinonychus / Doppelganger / Dryad / Ettercap / Gelatinous Cube / Hyaenodon / Giant Mantis / Rust Monster / Unicorn / Dire Wolf / Yeth Hound / Bunyip / Chupacabra / Crysmal / Zebub / Fungal Crawler / Howler / Merrow / Pech / Quickling / Sandman / Spriggan / Vampiric Mist / Adaro / Adherer / Allip / Ceratioidi / Dimetrodon / Disenchanter / Giant Chameleon / Magmin / Phantom Fungus / Giant Skunk / Moss Troll / Trollhound / Formian Warrior / Wax Golem / Hungry Flesh / Wereshark / Mindslaver Mold / Pard / Spring-Heeled Jack / Dire Weasel / Abrikandilu / Digmaul / Guardian Scroll / Domovoi / Kawa Akago / Deep Merfolk / Shasalqu / Drekavac / Impaler Shrike / Kuribu / Merlucent / Onyvolan / Chickcharney /
CR 4: Hound Archon / Barghest / Daeodon / Gargoyle / Griffon / Harpy / Hydra / Mimic / Minotaur / Otyugh / Owlbear / Pixie / Satyr / Sea Hag / Dire Wolverine / Yeti / Amphisbaena / Attic Whisperer / Slicer Beetle / Decapus / Devilfish / Giant Dragonfly / Dust Digger / Gloomwing / Kelpie / Korred / Werebear / Mandragora / Megaloceros / Peryton / Phycomid / Scarecrow / Serpentfolk / Slithering Tracker / Albino Solifugid / Vulnudaemon / Pachycephalosaurus / Aghash / Flail Snail / Kamadan / Myceloid / Shae / Tanuki / Thriae Soldier / Voonith / Comozant Wyrd / Fossegrim / Freezing Flow / Junk Golem / Huldra / Living Topiary / Nightgaunt / Sea Cat / Udaeus / Ahkhat / Gancanagh / Blood Caterpillar / Gravebound / Gray / Heikegani / Karkadann / Flytrap Leshy / Spear Urchin / Sha / Kasa-Obake / Lovelorn / Tenome / Ukobach / Calathgar / Chemosit / Hala / Bishop Agathion / Skeltercat / Magadaz / Scrivenite / Bagman / Thin Man / Ekekeh /
CR 5: Basilisk / Cloaker / Cyclops / Barbazu / Air Elemental / Earth Elemental / Fire Elemental / Water Elemental / Djinn / Gibbering Mouther / Manticore / Mummy / Nightmare / Phase Spider / Troll / Winter Wolf / Wraith / Achaierai / Giant Crawling Hand / Ice Elemental / Lightning Elemental / Leucrotta / Lurker in Light / Megatherium / Siren / Giant Ant Lion / Ascomoid / Cecaelia / Ghul / Globster / Grodair / Giant Owl / Sabosan / Shadow Mastiff / Hieracosphinx / Ogre Spider / Spider Eater / Vodyanoi / Buggane / Styracosaurus / Mist Drake / Fachen / Gearghost / Graeae / Hypnalis / Lampad / Rat King / Saguaroi / Killer Seahorse / Selkie / Great Assassin Bug / Blightspawn / Cuero / Ceratosaurus / Ichthyocentaur / Kikimora / Lotus Leshy / Kaprosuchus / Rope Dragon / Tizheruk / Giant Hellgrammite / Venedaemon / Danthienne / Kentrosaurus / Gowrow / Raiju / Bogwid / Polevik / Dawn Piper / Shell Sentinel / Goldpebble / Fear Eater / Deadfall Dweller /
CR 6: Babau / Ankylosaurus / Ettin / Wood Golem / Kyton / Lamia / Salamander / Shambling Mound / Will o Wisp / Wyvern / Xill / Vulpinal / Belker / Death Worm / Sea Drake / Giant Gar / Wood Giant / Glyptodon / Mothman / Redcap / Tendriculos / Rock Troll / Witchwyrd / Ahuizotl / Annis Hag / Berbalang / Cerberus / Deathweb / Incubus / Cave Giant / Hodag / Hungry Fog / Terra-Cotta Soldier / Jiang-Shi / Apocalypse Locust / Blood Golem / Karkinoi / Mudlord / Swan Maiden / Bagiennik / Cytillipede / Delgeth / Jungle Drake / Grimslake / Roiling Oil / Wihsaak / Giant Scarab / Tiyanak / Dunkleosteus / Nekomata / Skrik Nettle / Megapiranha Swarm / Helicoprion / Cordulegaster / Ambergrim / Tidewretch Dryad / Kigyo / Giant Devils Tooth / Bushyasta / Vetala / Remacera / Trompe L’Oeil / Spiroskek / Scrapshell /
CR 7: Aboleth / Lillend / Cave Bear / Bulette / Chimera / Chuul / Shadow Demon / Succubus / Drider / Shaitan / Flesh Golem / Invisible Stalker / Medusa / Remorhaz / Chaos Beast / Frost Drake / Dullahan / Hangman Tree / Soul Eater / Totenmaske / Legion Archon / Adhukait / Caulborn / Shark-Eating Crab / Pairaka / Kirin / Manananggal / Megalania / Water Naga / Rot Grub Swarm / Pukwudgie / Tupilaq / Gaki / Oceanid / Qallupilluk / Winter Hag / Xenopterid / Yaoguai / Aatheriexa / Cerynitis / Levaloch / Duppy / Mngwa / Storm Hag / Veela / Crypt Flower / Suspiridaemon / Quetzalcoatlus / Hookfang Sea Worm / Dweomercat / Vilkacis / Nogitsune / Serpopard / Adaptive Ooze / Black Shuck /
CR 8: Behir / Erinyes / Efreet / Stone Giant / Gorgon / Intellect Devourer / Mohrg / Dark Naga / Ogre Mage / Gynosphinx / Smilodon / Treant / Bodak / Hydrodaemon / Destrachan / Tylosaurus / Marsh Giant / Glass Golem / Gray Render / Mihstu / Moonflower / Brain Collector / Quickwood / Giant Tarantula / Baku / Deathtrap Ooze / Girtablilu / Bone Golem / Guecubu / Hellwasp Swarm / Iku-Turso / Lammasu / Baluchitherium / Stymphalides / Wolf-In-Sheep’s-Clothing / Yuki-Onna / Blood Hag / Sarglagon / Trapper / Maenad / Shard Slag / Svartalfar / Megaprimatus / Encantado / Polong / Su / Urannag / Giant Starfish / Canopy Creeper / Azgenzak / Gammenore / Pyropiscis / Waldgeist / Thrushmoor Angler / Druj Nasu / Whirlmaw /
CR 9: Sarcosuchus / Vrock / Osyluth / Tyrannosaurus Rex / Dragon Turtle / Mastodon / Marid / Frost Giant / Night Hag / Megalodon / Vampire / Avoral / Aurumvorax / Leukodaemon / Alchemical Golem / Giant Snapping Turtle / Witchfire / Yrthak / Baykok / Rift Drake / Garuda / Desert Giant / Nuckelavee / Sargassum Fiend / Galvo / Cliff Giant / Coral Golem / Ijiraq / Leanan Sidhe / Nependis / Tikbalang / Ahool / Bisha Ga Tsuku / Caller in Darkness / Moon Dog / Pakalchi / Giant Mantis Shrimp / Stranglereed / Sangudaemon / Fungus Queen / Elasmotherium / Mokele-Mbembe / Skull Ripper / Camulatz / Mederach / Paguroida / Animated Hoard /
CR 10: Bebilith / Couatl / Fire Giant / Guardian Naga / Rakshasa / Shield Archon / Kalavakus / Behemoth Hippopotamus / Water Orm / Adlet / Bogeyman / Phistophilus / Ghawwas / Jungle Giant / Mobogo / Nue / Siyokoy / Abaia / Einherjar / Kapre / Myrmecoleon / Peluda / Rukh / Therizinosaurus / Ether Drake / Egregore / Fext / Peuchen / Ursikka / Alp / Bloody Bones / Daitengu / Fen Mauler / Muhuru / Vrykolakas / Wild Hunt Hound / Gargiya / Kere / Poludnica / Magnetite Golem / Blood Lily / Pyrogeist / Korir-Kokembe /
CR 11: Hezrou / Hamatula / Devourer / Cloud Giant / Meladaemon / Thunderbird / Aghasura / Carnivorous Crystal / Spinosaurus / Graveknight / Sapphire Jellyfish / Lukwata / Moon-Beast / Royal Naga / Sleipnir / Taotieh / Harionago / Jinmenju / Juggernaut / Seps / Cameroceras / Fastachee / Nulmind / Erodaemon / Llorona / Mapinguari / Gigas Clam / Living Sandstorm / Marax / Fuldrex /
CR 12: Purple Worm / Roper / Leonal / Catoblepas / Derghodaemon / Omox / Taiga Giant / Shining Child / Baregara / Coloxus / Shira / Jorogumo / Rusalka / Valkyrie / Aoandon / Lorelei / Sayona / Vouivre / Amarok / Scitalis / Banelight / Bonethorn / Ghole / Gravesludge / Yurei / Black Jinni / Umdhlebi / Kokogiak / Ez-Azael / Nachzehrer /
CR 13: Glabrezu / Gelugon / Froghemoth / Banshee / Charybdis / Thanadaemon / Viper Vine / Akhlut / Alraune / Azruverda / Gore Weaver / Argus / Gashadokuro / Seaweed Siren / Wickerman / Cetus / Cherufe / Corpse Lotus / Papinijuwari / Kamaitachi / Kikituk / Titanoboa / Psoglav / Inkanyamba / Ixion Worm / Radiant Essence / Empusa /
CR 14: Nalfeshnee / Gylou / Leng Spider / Nightwing / Worm That Walks / Demilich / Sepid / Ankou / Bodythief / Ocean Giant / Rokurokubi / Xanthos / Death Coach / Wakandagi / Atuikakura / Temerdaemon / Plague Giant / Rawhead / Lapsudaemon / Grisantian Lion / Bolla / Chronogeist / Kakuen-Taka /
CR 15: Neothelid / Phoenix / Cetaceal / Crystal Dragon / Black Scorpion / Xacarba / Crucidaemon / Dybbuk / Cannon Golem / Gorynych / Jubjub Bird / Kongamato / Popobala / Sea Bonze / Barometz / Hamadryad / Hyakume / Ypotryll / Seraptis / Nightmare Dragon / Isonade / Riftcreeper / Gold Golem / Targotha / Addu / Faceless Whale / Basavan /
CR 16: Astradaemon / Bdellavritra / Brine Dragon / Nightwalker / Scylla / Slimy Demodand / Ecorche / Grootslang / Fjord Linnorm / Warsworn / Zomok / Gegenees / Muse / Ningen / Vilderavn / Saurian / Elder Sphinx / Mustelidal / Kudimmu / Corbayrant /
CR 17: Marilith / Magma Dragon / Rune Giant / Keketar / Thrasfyr / Wendigo / Winterwight / Bandersnatch / Bakekujira / Immortal Ichor / Tunche / Cervinal / Deimavigga / Plankta / Wyrmwraith / Swamp Blight / Phasmadaemon /
CR 18: Bronze Dragon / Kraken / Purrodaemon / Cloud Dragon / Nightcrawler / Sky Dragon / Norn / Advodaza / Erlking / Taniniver / Anemos / Anunnaki / Bone Ship / Saxra / Mosslord / Hadhayosh / Ammut /
CR 19: Silver Dragon / Shoggoth / Puragaus / Umbral Dragon / Adamantine Golem / Sard / Forest Dragon / Humbaba / Deep Sea Serpent / Tzitzimitl / Stone Colossus / Grendel / Dream Dragon / Obcisidaemon / Wild Hunt Monarch / Sturzstromer /
CR 20: Balor / Gold Dragon / Draconal / Olethrodaemon / Nightwave / Eremite / Time Dragon / Empyrean Angel / Euryale /
CR 20+: Solar / Tarrasque / Jabberwock / Hekatonkheires / Drakaina / Elohim / Julunggali / Mogaru / Fomorian / Glaistig / Grim Reaper / Hundun / Shen / Cipactli / Green Man / Ouroboros / Apocalypse Dragon /
The only two I'm doubting of adding here are the Colour Out of Space and the Hound of Tindalos. Everything not mentioned here, well I'm not a big fan of those, I understand that others are and I of course won't mind their inclusion (though I hope robots end up with the Starfinder material)
Seventh Seal wrote:
Well, a 360 page book covering 400 monsters, with legenda's, information pages and other such things not counting, I'm sure this book will have a lot of 2 page animal things... Only the animals share a page, no other creatures share pages. And knowing the Dragons, Elementals, Unique creatures all take up 2 pages each, that means even more 2 page vermin/animals.
I'm happy about the vermin (hopefully they make an interesting choice though, I mean, nobody cares about a tiny scorpion with a red stinger... Just put two very different very awesome scorpions in there.)
j b 200 wrote:
Hmmm, unique monsters in the first book? Not a fan, they take up space and should be in their own book, just like templates, good-guys and animals.
Seeing there are 400 creatures in a 300 page book, I guess we see A LOT of normal animals in this one, well, let's get them over with so they are gone for the Bestiary 2. There probably will be a lot of unique monsters, a lot of lovecraft stuff, a lot of D&D monsters, a lot of Bestiary 1 and 2 (first edition) monsters, many Rainbow dragons, many elemental golems, drakes and giants, too many demons (+lords) and devils (+lords), some Kaiju and many robots. Which are all reasons I'm doubting of skipping the first Bestiary, and wait for the probably better part 2.
I'm talking about Daemons, Div, Alraune, Akhlut, Buggane, Coloxus, Pard, Kamaitachi, Papinijuwari, Nue, Nuckelavee, Deathtrap Ooze, Lovelorn, Leanan Sidhe, Abaia, Alp, Karkadann, Isonade, Almiraj, Hungry Fog, Bestiary 2 Dragons, Leafray, Lampad, Jorogumo.
I hope to see more of those type of monsters. But I'm sure I'll see them again around book 3/4... The cool stuff is always kept for last. However, in the first episode of Pathfinder, books 3, 4, and 5 were the best in my opinion, 6 was rather bad and random, mostly because the unique powerhouses I don't really care for, it had some fun ones like Ghole, Kamaitachi and lovelorn, but the bad ones outshined the good ones.
Marco Massoudi wrote:
So the same old D&D cast, hopefully, they reveal some less known Paizo-ONly monsters soon.
Well, mostly Bestiary 1 gets the most popular monsters, Manticore, Medusa, Minotaur, Chimera, Hydra, Kobolds, playable races, horses, dogs and other such monsters out of the way, the most common of d&d demons and devils, remorhaz, rust monster, maybe wendigo if I'm lucky and there are still Native American monsters allowed in there. Also elemental giants, golems and such. And of course the D&D dragons, which I'm really a bit tired off, rather see the dragons from Bestiary 2 in the first 2nd edition bestiary 1...
I'm waiting on book 2 mostly because the more obscure mythology monsters (and obscure pathfinder monsters) will appear around there, Ahuizotl, Aklhlut, Almiraj, Alraune, Papinijuwari and much more like those, they will never make it in the first book with so much D&D competition.
I hope I'm wrong, but I can feel it in my blood, most people love such famous monsters most, so they all be in.
"Until P2 is released, that can still happen, right? "
This part confused me, and I could NOT find a topic about the first bestiary of Pathfinder 2... So I thought all could have been cancelled and they just continued with Adventure Paths as this part inclined: "At best, we could use this to suggest monsters in later APs."
Happy to hear it is still a thing.
I don't understand why Patfinder 2 still has D&D monsters at all? I would get rid of all of them, spare for the mythological ones, and even those should be changed, such as the Barghest and the Chimerae to resemble other creatures, not pure D&D clones. I actually LOVE the newly created daemons (pathfinder originals) more than the D&D ones, so I wouldn't miss those at all.
I really hope at least the Salamander, Barghest and Chimera will be changed as well, they feel too much like D&D, and not as pathfinder.
Awesome book full of Mythological creatures! Love the Aatxe, Peluda, Green Knight, Gaki, Ichneumon, Kallikantzaros, Kulmking, Ouroboros, Piasa, Pixiu, and Ziphius!
Not a big fan of the Gulon (why it isn't a wolverine?), Lou Carcolh (Love the artwork, but it is much to low Challenge rating for my taste), Nalusa Falaya (also STUNNING artwork, but the mythical abilities are missing, especially the ability to turn victims into murderous evils), Nian (not a fan of anything, much too low level), Scitalis (Too weak for my taste), Wind Weasel (Only thing I don't like is its speed and why it isn't called Kamaitachi?)
Most of the other non-mythology monsters are very awesome as well! Cool golems, cool oozes! cool! good buy for me! Hope to see more Bestiaries from you guys FULL of Mythological monsters! Especially more of the unknown myth monsters from Australia or from the abookofcreatures website!