According to Erik Mona it's "Planar Adventures and that's it."
Yep, looks like we're out of luck if we like the current flagship product.
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here's hoping they don't pull a dnd and reprint everything before coming up with amazing new content. I'd have preferred they didn't make a new "edition", unless making Pathfinder 2E makes it where they can finally stat up Mind Flayers, Beholders, and Grells... maybe they'll keep making bestiaries with new creatures instead of giving us new blocks for all the same demons, angels, kytons, etc.
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Well, pretty sure whatever first monster book we get in PF2 is going to be full of hoary old favorites... 'cause certain critters are pretty much default go-tos.
According to Erik Mona it's "Planar Adventures and that's it."
Why would anybody buy that now?
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According to Erik Mona it's "Planar Adventures and that's it."Why would anybody buy that now?
Because I personally promise you that it will be awesome? :D
According to Erik Mona it's "Planar Adventures and that's it."Why would anybody buy that now?
Same reason anybody bought the Atlas of Rokugan, the last book for the L5R RPG released by AEG- because the rules content isn't all the book has to offer...
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If Planars adventures is full of lore it could still be useful.
As for monsters, I kind of hope they just decide to do a big Tome of Horrors style book, and consolidate the majority of current bestiary monsters into a single big book, updated to 2.0. I am not down to buy a a rehash of Bestiary 1, 2, etc.
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Sad day. Instead of looking forward to the books that I've pre-ordered, now I just want to cancel them all along with this account. History repeats itself over and over. Out with the old and in with the newer dumbed down version of the game. Yay.
Boo.
Well, pretty sure whatever first monster book we get in PF2 is going to be full of hoary old favorites... 'cause certain critters are pretty much default go-tos.
I just can't even pretend to get excited about buying a book with goblins and dragons in it again. How can we go from Empyreal Lords in Bestiary 6 all the way back to the basics?
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According to Erik Mona it's "Planar Adventures and that's it."Why would anybody buy that now?
Because complete sets have better resale value.
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Paizo: "We're finally making a new CRB for the first time in nine years."
Players: "Yayyyy!!! It's about bloody time!"
Paizo: "We're calling it '2nd Edition'."
Players: "You've betrayed us! Rage-quit! Totally leaving now...."
<thundering herd pours out the exits>
Paizo: "B-but it's still d20 3.5-based...hey!?"
<crickets>
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I wonder why people feel they have to announce formally that they are leaving Paizo. Its OK Guys you may depart in silence. You will be missed but we will push on with out you. good luck in your future endeavors.
On to more important matters I'm kind of excited about 2nd edition I hope it ends up a lot like star finder as far as combat goes. I will still pick up planar adventures I probably won't fully convert over to 2.0 until they have a chance to get a few books out. I imagine I'll stick with 1.0 until I have a few books built up. Of course provided I like 2.0 which I feel is likely. I would actually not mind another bestiary but at least now when they dod 2.0 they already kind of know what they need to design so it should be easier to make balanced and fun classes. I do hope they don't do the one archetype for all classes things I don't think that would work as well in pathfinder setting.
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Sad day. Instead of looking forward to the books that I've pre-ordered, now I just want to cancel them all along with this account. History repeats itself over and over. Out with the old and in with the newer dumbed down version of the game. Yay.
Boo.
Pretty much. They lost a customer here.
I would prefer they continue to support 1st Edition PF, even if it means 1 product every few months. At least it's something.
To be completely abandoned (again, with D&D already having started that trend with 4e), there's only so much this gamer's soul can take.
The new edition sounds and reads like an overhaul, and not some kind of update/clarification/some new stuff/minor-but-important changes kinda thing.
So much for a Bestiary 7. Nice knowing ya, Paizo.
Can I have your stuff?
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Theirs always room for more stuff if you have a good haversack.
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I wonder why people feel they have to announce formally that they are leaving Paizo. Its OK Guys you may depart in silence. You will be missed [...]
Not so sure about that last part...
I think if you are unhappy with something, you should voice your concern. While I I am surprised that uh...people just assumed pathfinder would continue on forever in current form, the only way a company will know if they have mis-stepped is if people complain.
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According to Erik Mona it's "Planar Adventures and that's it."Why would anybody buy that now?
Because the bulk of the book is lore content about the planes and its locations and the gods and more that is edition-immune and will remain accurate in the next edition. At least, that's why I'd buy it if I were a customer.
Also, this book DOES have a mini-bestiary. No more aeons, but there are 2 more innevitables in there.
Sure, but it was marketed as having mechanics as well, and presumably some customers wanted to buy the book for those.
So I rework the question: Why would a player excited about new mechanics (for Pathfinder) relevant to planar adventures buy that book now?
Paizo: "B-but it's still d20 3.5-based...hey!?"
Now wait. d20, yes. 3.5-based? So far from what's been previewed, no.
If this was an iteration, there would be a heck of a lot less angst going around.
If Planars adventures is full of lore it could still be useful.
As for monsters, I kind of hope they just decide to do a big Tome of Horrors style book, and consolidate the majority of current bestiary monsters into a single big book, updated to 2.0. I am not down to buy a a rehash of Bestiary 1, 2, etc.
I like this idea for both monsters and classes way more than rebuying all the bestiaries, a new advanced player guide, Ultimate magic, Ultimate Combat, etc.
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Paizo: "We're finally making a new CRB for the first time in nine years."
Players: "Yayyyy!!! It's about bloody time!"
Paizo: "We're calling it '2nd Edition'."
Players: "You've betrayed us! Rage-quit! Totally leaving now...."
It's not at all about what they're calling it, it's what they're making it. I couldn't care less if they called it 1.5e, 2e, 15e or Fantasyfinder. What I *do* care about is whether I can use 2e APs with 1e while I'm waiting for 2e to fill out with options.
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Considering they have enough monsters in APs and other products to fill multiple bestiaries. I wouldn't mind a hardcover bestiary of nothing but reprints.
I would trade <die-toss> three bestiaries for 2E having basic animal companions in the CRB.
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Sure, but it was marketed as having mechanics as well, and presumably some customers wanted to buy the book for those.
So I rework the question: Why would a player excited about new mechanics (for Pathfinder) relevant to planar adventures buy that book now?
Same reason that player would be excited to buy ANY book we will publish over the next year and a half for Pathfinder 1st edition.
Paizo: "B-but it's still d20 3.5-based...hey!?"
No, no it's not.
Not when major mechanical systems, like action economy and skills are being replaced with new systems and spells are undergoing major renovation.
Same reason that player would be excited to buy ANY book we will publish over the next year and a half for Pathfinder 1st edition.Sure, but it was marketed as having mechanics as well, and presumably some customers wanted to buy the book for those.
So I rework the question: Why would a player excited about new mechanics (for Pathfinder) relevant to planar adventures buy that book now?
Mm-hmm.
I would love to see another Bestiary before parting away with 1E. Even though I suppose Bestiary 7 is an awesome "Last Bestiary", I would love to see the evil Elemental Lords stated, as well as one more set of five dragons, and also demon lords and archon empyreal lords... I'm sure it'll take ages until we have a bestiary filled with demigods in 2E.
Now,regarding Planar Adventures...
I'm also sure it will take even more years for Paizo to release another book about the planes after Planar Adventures. I'm surely buying it for the lore and bestiary (2 new inevitables!!! *0*)
Aww, that's a pity. Understandable from a business perspective, but I would have liked another one.
Browsing through my creature list (mostly from B1 to B6, but also APs etc.), there were actually only few gaps left to be closed. Animals and humanoids with racial HD are mostly capped to CR 10, but this makes sense in a way, since at higher CR they'd need special abilities that are not so believable given their type. Supply of inevitables is limited as far as I know (6 of them), but War of the Crown might add a few. I would have liked a robot of CR ~20 and more house spirits.
At least no new bestiary means we don't get a bunch of new playable races with pretty much no material. I think some races from B5 and B6 still didn't get any material beyond the bestiary entry. Now you could use them as a pretty much empty vessel and add your own ideas, but I prefer fleshed out races.
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- Keep animals and animal companions in their own book.
When you have three core classes that grant them as features, then the mechanics need to be in the CRB.
And Slim Jim, you're forgetting the classes that can summon those creatures.
I "forgot" nothing; I was confining my reply above to the context, which was: "animals and animal companions".
--There are vastly more "creatures" that can be summoned than the much smaller subset which are animal companions.
(Minimally, dogs and horses should be in the CRB.)
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I wouldn't mind at all if they found a solution to the "animal companion has entirely different stats as an animal companion or as a Bestiary entry". It would be nice if an animal didn't need two separate entries, one to use as a monster and another to use as an animal companion. If that means level restrictions (like, you can't pick a T-Rex at level 1) then I'm fine with that.