Gisher |
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I’m working on a list of the different types of spellcasters available from Paizo. I’d appreciate it if anyone can help corrrect any errors or omissions. The list uses the following format:
Class: Magic Type (Casting Stat) - Prepared/Spontaneous (Max Spell Level)
If a class has options, like archetypes, which alter these elements, they are listed below the basic class information.
Link to updated Google Docs version.
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Bard: Arcane (Cha) - Spontaneous (6th)
Bloodrager: Arcane (Cha) - Spontaneous (4th)
Cleric: Divine (Wis) - Prepared (9th)
Druid: Divine (Wis) - Prepared (9th)
Fighter
-Child of Acavna and Amaznen Archetype: Arcane (Int) - Prepared (4th)
Hunter: Divine (Wis) - Spontaneous (6th)
Inquisitor: Divine (Wis) - Spontaneous (6th)
-Living Grimoire Archetype: Divine (Int) - Prepared (6th)
Investigator
-Psychic Detective Archetype: Psychic (Int) - Spontaneous (6th)
-Questioner Archetype: Arcane (Int) - Spontaneous (6th)
Magus: Arcane (Int) - Prepared (6th)
-Eldritch Scion Archetype: Arcane (Cha) - Spontaneous (6th)
-Mindblade Archetype: Psychic (Int) - Spontaneous (6th)
Medium: Psychic (Cha) - Spontaneous (4th)
-Archmage Spirit: Arcane (Cha) - Spontaneous (6th)
-Heirophant Spirit: Divine (Cha) - Spontaneous (6th)
Mesmerist: Psychic (Cha) - Spontaneous (6th)
Occultist: Psychic (Int) - Spontaneous (6th)
-Reliquarian Archetype: Divine (Int) - Spontaneous (6th)
-Silksworn Archetype: Arcane (Int) - Spontaneous (6th)
Oracle: Divine (Cha) - Spontaneous (9th)
Paladin: Divine (Cha) - Prepared (4th)
Psychic: Psychic (Int) - Spontaneous (9th)
Ranger: Divine (Wis) - Prepared (4th)
Shaman: Divine (Wis) - Prepared (9th)
Skald: Arcane (Cha) - Spontaneous (6th)
Sorcerer: Arcane (Cha) - Spontaneous (9th)
-Wildblooded Archetype (Empyreal Bloodline): Arcane (Wis) - Spontaneous (9th)
-Wildblooded Archetype (Sage Bloodline): Arcane (Int) - Spontaneous (9th)
-Psychic Bloodline: Psychic (Cha) - Spontaneous (9th)
Spiritualist: Psychic (Wis) - Spontaneous (6th)
Summoner: Arcane (Cha) - Spontaneous (6th)
Vigilante
-Cabalist Archetype: Arcane (Int) - Prepared (6th)
-Warlock Archetype: Arcane (Int) - Prepared (6th)
-Zealot Archetype: Divine (Wis) - Spontaneous (6th)
Warpriest: Divine (Wis) - Prepared (6th)
Witch: Arcane (Int) - Prepared (9th)
Wizard: Arcane (Int) - Prepared (9th)
Edited to add Google Docs version.
Ilorin Lorati |
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Spiritualist also has two Divine archetypes in the Onmyoji and the Involutionist, and a Charisma archetype in the Fractured Mind.
Rogue has an Int caster in the Eldritch Scoundrel.
Ranger has a Charisma archetype in the Dandy.
Druid has Charisma in the Feyspeaker.
Witch has a Spontaneous caster in the Ley Line Guardian.
Mesmerist has a Divine archetype in the Fey Trickster.
I think there's a few others. In particular, I remember a spontaneous druid but I can't for the life of me find it so I'm probably remembering wrong.
avr |
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Seducer witches use Cha to cast (still prepared tho'.)
Vigilantes with the Magical Child archetype cast spontaneously using Cha.
Dandy rangers cast spontaneously using Cha.
Tortured crusader paladins cast using Wis.
Talisman crafter occultists are nearly prepared casters.
Rivethun spirit channeler mediums can choose Wis or Cha to cast with.
I guess you're not counting a kineticist as a spellcaster?
Elder mythos cultist clerics use Cha to cast.
Id rager bloodragers are psychic casters.
Gisher |
I'm guessing Ilorin's edit is a variation on being ninja'd appropriate to the subject.
Ok. Insider Bloodrager Humor. :)
& yes, my mistake re antipaladins.
Good to know. I wasn't sure if my sources were out of date. I've never paid any attention to that class. (And barely more to Paladins.)
avr |
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I don't think there's ever been an antipaladin in a game I've run, hence my own lack of familiarity.
The seducer witch is still a prepared caster BTW. Also it's only eldritch scoundrel archetype rogues that get actual casting as opposed to SLAs (though with the bookish rogue feat and/or the eldritch raider archetype they come close).
Gisher |
I don't think there's ever been an antipaladin in a game I've run, hence my own lack of familiarity.
The seducer witch is still a prepared caster BTW. Also it's only eldritch scoundrel archetype rogues that get actual casting as opposed to SLAs (though with the bookish rogue feat and/or the eldritch raider archetype they come close).
Thanks for catching those mistakes. I've updated the list. Over the past few months I've been in several threads where questions like "are there any Spontaneous Arcane casters who use Int" have come up. I thought it might be helpful to make a comprehensive list of options for people to reference in the future.
Gisher |
Gisher |
One more - the Red Mantis Assassin prestige class is Arcane (Cha) - Spontaneous (4th). & yes I checked this time.
Couldn't sleep. That's a really interesting case. I didn't know that there were Prestige Classes that granted spellcasting (as opposed to just advancing already existing spellcasting). I wonder if there are more of these.
RoseCrown |
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avr wrote:One more - the Red Mantis Assassin prestige class is Arcane (Cha) - Spontaneous (4th). & yes I checked this time.Couldn't sleep. That's a really interesting case. I didn't know that there were Prestige Classes that granted spellcasting (as opposed to just advancing already existing spellcasting). I wonder if there are more of these.
Prophet of Kalistrade, Paths of Prestige, p. 42-43.
Arcane, Spont, Charisma. Prestige class grants spells casting, not aditional caster levels.Ilorin Lorati |
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I did miss them. I just went back and found three archetypes that made changes. Do you think that I got them all?
Those are the ones I know about.
I really don't think that the Medium should be listed the way it is, since the flexible casting method is a basic focus of the class and they're only that way for the sake of requirements, not prerequisites.
Adding it up onto the main Mesmerist line would be too crowded and wouldn't help, maybe you should nest them inside a bullet point that says "Base Class Features" or something similar?
Furthermore, this list could certainly do with further listing any major changes to spell lists, since they're just as important as important as the casting method and stat.
Edit: With this, you would add in things like Unlettered Arcanist, which uses the witch list, and Puppetmaster Magus that adds Bard spells to its list - while adding much needed context to archetypes like the Fey Trickster, which uses the Druid spell list of being a straight type swap.
Gisher |
Gisher wrote:avr wrote:One more - the Red Mantis Assassin prestige class is Arcane (Cha) - Spontaneous (4th). & yes I checked this time.Couldn't sleep. That's a really interesting case. I didn't know that there were Prestige Classes that granted spellcasting (as opposed to just advancing already existing spellcasting). I wonder if there are more of these.Prophet of Kalistrade, Paths of Prestige, p. 42-43.
Arcane, Spont, Charisma. Prestige class grants spells casting, not aditional caster levels.
Very cool! I'm learning so much from this little project. Thank you!
Gisher |
Gisher wrote:I did miss them. I just went back and found three archetypes that made changes. Do you think that I got them all?Those are the ones I know about.
Excellent!
I really don't think that the Medium should be listed the way it is, since the flexible casting method is a basic focus of the class and they're only that way for the sake of requirements, not prerequisites.
Adding it up onto the main Mesmerist line would be too crowded and wouldn't help, maybe you should nest them inside a bullet point that says "Base Class Features" or something similar?
Yes, the Medium is pretty unique. Organizationally I'm treating the Spirits like Sorcerer Bloodlines - options that might be chosen within the class itself. I've added the Class Feature language that you suggested.
Furthermore, this list could certainly do with further listing any major changes to spell lists, since they're just as important as important as the casting method and stat.
Edit: With this, you would add in things like Unlettered Arcanist, which uses the witch list, and Puppetmaster Magus that adds Bard spells to its list - while adding much needed context to archetypes like the Fey Trickster, which uses the Druid spell list of being a straight type swap.
That is something that I have considered, but that would be a much more extensive task. I've got constraints on my time that make me want to keep this small for now. If you are interested in tackling the job, please feel free to use this list as a starting point. I'd be happy to help out as much as I can.