No Time to Die aint got a stream option either. Probably 25 mill opening weekend for Dune. It will need word of mouth to keep folks going. I hope better but thats what im seeing.I'll draw my line in the sand at $50 million minimum for the first week. Maybe even the first three days.
Less than two weeks to see how gloriously right I am*!
I can hardly wait.
:D* Yet again!
If no streaming option, I'd agree on 50 mill opening weekend. I just dont see it with simultaneous HBO Max stream. Maybe, in a week if people pass word of mouth saying, "you gotta see this thing on the big screen."
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It is somewhat amusing to see yet another claim of being "gloriously right yet again" in the same post where you move the target on your prediction.
I guess if you make multiple predictions you can claim to be correct whichever pans out.
It isn’t a great sign that No Time to Die’s one weekend domestic take was the same as the five week worldwide total of Dune.
Dune has an international take at the moment, but not a really worldwide one, because it hasn't opened in the most important overseas markets. The double whammy of the US and China will be more telling, and that's only a week away.
That still doesn't change the fact that since mid September Dune has been open in a large number of markets and in that time has only made half of what No Time to Die made in the last three days.
While I suppose it is possible that Dune could open in the US and China at something approaching 120 Million, but it would practically require NTtD having zero legs for that to be a scenario in which Dune surpasses Bond.
I think your original assessment is correct that it won't put a dent in Bond's numbers.
I hate to side with QB, but Mark makes a salient point regarding Bond's numbers...
It’s going to take a lot to boost Dune to #1 because right now Dune has made 117 million and is the 28th highest grossing movie of the year.
Bond has made 321 million in a fraction of the time Dune has been out in other markets and is aleady the 9th highest grossing movie of the year. All the articles claiming it is underperforming are saying that it is underperforming when compared with the other Craig Bond films, not in comparison to the other pandemic dwindled box office of 2021.
Dune has to make an additional 705 million to become #1. Bond would have to make an addition 501 million. Either of those scenarios are unlikely.
If 39 Million a week is “beating expectations” then wouldn’t making 800 million be considered a miracle?
NO TIME TO DIE seems to be underperforming compared to a blockbuster movie released in normal conditions, and to the last couple of Bond movies. It's actually doing pretty well when the COVID pandemic is brought into consideration.
Of course, if Bond with its name recognition is struggling, and the two MCU movies have not done anywhere near as well as might be expected under normal circumstances, than the comparatively obscure DUNE might fare even less well.
However, DUNE does have the benefit of a much lower budget than NO TIME TO DIE ($130 million less) and a much lower degree of marketing and will take a relatively smaller amount of money to break even, probably around $320-350 million, though you'd want $500 million to make it a qualified success. Depending on which of those figures you're aiming for, the film is between a quarter and a third of the way there with its two biggest markets still untapped.
So DUNE being the biggest film of the year is highly improbable, but it breaking even, which is likely all it needs to do to get the sequel underway, seems reasonably realistic.
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Maybe you guys should make a thread specifically about box office takes.
But talking about ticket sales for a movie is talking about the movie.
Sure, if you're into an argument ad populem/pecunia into why a movie is good or bad.
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Um no, do ticket sales equate to a good movie? No they equate to the performance of a movie. And for some people it's interesting in relation to the specific thread. Particularly for someone who may have worked in ticket sales.
Don't be a gatekeeper.
That literally hasn't been what the conversation is about though. It's been someone claiming in two different threads what they think the result of Dune's box office is going to be, and multiple people in both threads pointing out the unlikelihood of that scenario and the factual inaccuracies they used to support their opinion.
The quality of the Dune film hasn't really been discussed, excepting the person claiming it's going to win multiple Oscars and take the top ticket sale position also claiming that it is a brilliant piece of filmmaking before seeing it.
No one has made an ad populum nor a pecunia non-olet argument here.
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Anyway, I booked time off next week to see DUNE when it launches in the UK on Thursday.
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Anyway, I booked time off next week to see DUNE when it launches in the UK on Thursday.
Im thinking taking a half day on Friday 10/21 and going in the afternoon.
I’m seeing it Thursday after work here in NYC. I’m not excited about it being DUNE at this point. I am a fan of Denis Villeneuve’s movies and have seen all if not most of them to date, my favorites being PRISONERS and SICARIO.
I’m not a fan of pretentiousness and declarations of masterpieces these days. I used to listen to that drivel when I was younger but now its less about how the movie looks and the visual craft than it is in conjunction with how it makes me FEEL.
I say again, FOR ME, you can get all of the technical things right and make a beautiful film but if the experience of watching it is devoid of any kind of empathy and emotion then you’ve made an amazing looking but ultimately empty film. Chris Nolan teeters on the edge of this frequently as does Villeneuve but I find a lot more humanity in Villeneuve’s films, even if that humanity is very, VERY DARK (as is the case in both PRISONERS ands SICARIO and to an extent BLADE RUNNER 2049).
I’m already disappointed that DUNE will basically be half a film but I know what I’m walking into so I can brace myself.
I look forward to some unbiased reviews from the people here. Even if I doubt I'll go see it.
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Late reviews, as the movie premiers in those markets, are all showing what we already know - fantastic movie with spectacular visuals (FX and real), a score with Zimmer at his best, excellent cast giving superb acting, disappointment over this being only "Part 1", and so forth.
You can listen to the whole score at the moment and it's pretty good and moody and atmospheric, but I wouldn't rank it as among Zimmer's best. Maybe his best for a long, long time though.