Mathmuse wrote:
Could you give me a reference to these carrying rules? My players have carried other players, conscious rather than unconscious, and I have applied the Riding Sapient Creatures rules instead.
Here are dragging:
Source Player Core pg. 269
In some situations, you might drag an object or creaturerather than carry it. If you’re dragging something, treat its Bulk as half. Typically, you can drag one thing at a time, you must use both hands to do so, and you drag slowly— roughly 50 feet per minute. Use the total Bulk of what you’re dragging, for instance, if you’re dragging a sack filled with treasure, total the Bulk of everything inside.
Carrying a creature really gets into the weeds cause you would have the Bulk of the creature + the Bulk of its items + your bulk to contend with
more than like likely makeing you encumbered giving you that condition and it's negatives.
Source Player Core pg. 269 2.0
You might need to know the Bulk of a creature, especially if you need to carry someone. This table lists the typical Bulk of a creature, but the GM might adjust this number.
Creature Bulk
Size of Creature Bulk
Tiny 1
Small 3
Medium 6
Large 12
Huge 24
Gargantuan 48
Carrying heavy or unwieldy itemss is touched on here in Bulk
Bulk
Source Player Core pg. 269
Carrying especially heavy or unwieldy items can make it more difficult for you to move, as can overloading yourself with too much gear. The Bulk value of an item reflects how difficult the item is to handle, representing its size, weight, and general awkwardness. If you have a high Strength modifier, you usually don’t need to worry about Bulk unless you’re carrying numerous substantial items.
Whether like dragging if it needs 2 hands is not expressed here or in carrying held items.
Carrying Items
Source Player Core pg. 267
A character carries items in three ways: held, worn, and stowed. Held items are in your hands; a character typically has two hands, allowing them to hold an item in each hand or a single two-handed item using both hands. Worn items are tucked into pockets, belt pouches, bandoliers, weapon sheaths, and so forth, and they can be retrieved and returned relatively quickly. Stowed items are in a backpack or a similar container, and they are more difficult to access.
I would say that yes it takes 2 hands, but that is me and it corresponds to the dragging rule which makes for easy extrapolation.
In your example the fighter either carrying or dragging would have needed to either drop their weapon (for free) or stow their weapon at the cost of an action. Then either pick up the Rogue or place hands on the Rogue (an action) The either drag or carry at the negatives that I assume would happen. Thus leaving them in range of Stides from the enemy and unable to raise a shield without dropping the rogue.
My .02 cents
