Telekinetic Blast questions


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Telekinetic Blast:

Element(s) aether; Type simple blast (Sp); Level —; Burn 0
Blast Type: physical; Damage bludgeoning, piercing, or slashing

You throw a nearby unattended object at a single foe as a ranged attack. The object must weigh no more than 5 pounds per kineticist level you possess. If the attack hits, the target and the thrown object each take the blast's damage. Since the object is enfolded in strands of aether, even if you use this power on a magic weapon or other unusual object, the attack doesn't use any of the magic weapon's bonuses or effects; it simply deals your blast damage. Alternatively, you can loosen the strands of aether in order to deal damage to both the object and the target as though you had thrown the object yourself (instead of dealing your normal blast damage).

You substitute your Constitution modifier for your Strength modifier if throwing the object would have added your Strength modifier on the damage roll, and you don't take the –4 penalty on the attack roll for throwing an object that wasn't designed to be thrown. In this case, the object's special effects apply (including effects from its materials), and if the object is a weapon, you must be proficient with it and able to wield it with one hand; otherwise, the item deals damage as a one-handed improvised weapon for a creature of your size.]

Can you use a small amount of air, water or rain as your object?


No. Air and water aren't objects. It's not broken to allow it, though. Why do you ask?


I'm fairly sure the intent was for it to be a solid object. Things like air or water are pooled together such that you'd have to separate small bits out of them to work (at which point you may as well just use whatever container or object was used to divide the smaller amount from its larger pool). Raindrops might be viable, but you'd have to be able to concentrate on a single raindrop as it's falling long enough to snatch it out of the air to use. Much easier would just be to use any loose rocks or whatever are laying around or use your own weapon or a bag of solid objects of negligible value (like a sack of marbles or pebbles).


If your GM is giving you a hard time about "running out of ammo" for telekinetic blast, you should throw slings. Slings are free and weightless, after all. One thing I did on my Telekineticist was to carry a juggler's kit which contains " multiple sets of well-balanced objects" without specifying how many you have, so're you're never going to run out of brightly colored balls or clubs.

The "you have to throw something" part of the TK blast is largely flavor, and not really supposed to be much of a limitation. But a lot of things with the telekineticist are in rules grey areas (e.g. when, precisely, is an item "attended") that you should work on an understanding of with your GM.


Unless you're in a vacuum, you should have no problem finding small unattended object that are "nearby" to throw.
After all, its the strands of aether that are doing the real damage, not the object itself which is just along for the ride.

So yeah, if the GM is an issue, go for dust, grains of sand, and the occasional teacup

Shadow Lodge

I generally carry a sack of goblin babies for this purpose.


Another thing to consider using as projectile for the TK blast is "a single strand of your own hair". You're unlikely to run out, it's a discrete solid object that you can hold in your hand and differentiate from other things, and (if your hair is long enough) it makes a kinda awesome kinetic whip.


"You're unlikely to run out"

Speak for yourself please, there are those here that treasure every single strand of hair they have left, and are pretty close to calling each one with its own name.

Also... goblin babies might not qualify as "unattended objects"

I'm very curious about this thing about what an "unattended object" is btw, because I think it would be much easier to throw a marble I have in my hand (definitely attended) than try to grab one that's rolling around the room and place it accurately between my target's eyes

Shadow Lodge

Unattended in my games has always been something not being held, or is not part of someone's inventory list. So pretty much anything just laying about the room is good to go. YMMV.
Also...we all know that any goblin baby outside of it's cage is considered unattended. Goblin parents are the worst.


The "unattended" thing is the grey area that affects the telekineticist most. I think the restriction for what you can throw is supposed to be "objects that are unattended by people other than you". But Telekinetic Finesse explicitly allows you to make sleight of hand checks at range, which includes the "Take Something Unnoticed" action. So you can pick someone's pockets with the ability, so the contents of their pockets are unattended? Or are they just unattended if they fail the opposed perception check?

The Exchange

thanks, just preparing for a game about to start and the idea seemed cool. It would give different flavor to my many blasts. It is going to be an aquatic game so I am trying to figure out fun things to do in this setting.


the Queen's Raven wrote:

Unattended in my games has always been something not being held, or is not part of someone's inventory list. So pretty much anything just laying about the room is good to go. YMMV.

Also...we all know that any goblin baby outside of it's cage is considered unattended. Goblin parents are the worst.

Since a goblin baby is still a creature, this isn't gonna work without using the foe throw infusion unless they've been dismembered first. Just an FYI.

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