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Mantis to me makes more sense in this movie than Moondragon, given that the movie was already pretty stuffed with plotlines and character arcs. They didn't really need to give much space to Mantis and Drax, but Moondragon really requires her to be a much larger focus of attention.
MMCJ,
So what, maybe Volume 3?
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Charles might be right, but I think this is the first time in recent memory that I can recall someone using a nuke to take out his brain.
But regarding how powerful Thanos is in MCU? Probably at least on par if not great than Ego. He and Ego once fought each other in the comics and it was a stalemate.
Also Comics Thanos has already survived the following: an entire reality collapsing on him, the death of the ENTIRE known reality, blown up by at least TWO Phoenix Force powered individuals, Full on contact with an exploding Cosmic Cube...
So even if he's not as tough, MCU Thanos would be...pretty tough at only 20% strength.
As for Moondragon...I wouldn't MIND seeing that but maybe what might happen is Gunn decides to use Adam Warlock to recreate Moondragon and thus we have a kind of father daughter show down in Volume 3.
Let's just say, I would not be surprised if the next Avengers movie starts with him getting the gems from the current owners and is not even breaking a sweat during the curbstomp battle.
I'd be surprised if Infinity Wars 1 doesn't end with Vision getting the mind stone ripped out of his head.
All I know is thanks to this movie, I'm one step closer to having Pip the Troll join the MCU.
Well that and maybe Moondragon...
One of my few quibbles is that Mantis showed up instead of Moondragon. Moondragon as both thought-to-be-dead daughter-of-Drax *and* another of Thanos' kidnapped-and-raised-as-his-personal-assassins 'daughters' would have lent a very different sort of 'family' vibe to the movie, and given Drax some pathos.
Instead we got Mantis, who I never liked in the comics, and didn't much care for in the movie, Drax, and the Nebula-Gamora arc which felt odd, since, in the last movie, Nebula said to Gamora, 'Of all our sisters, I hated you least,' which sort of flies in the face of her comments in this movie, ** spoiler omitted **
Then again, Nebula was fun, and I don't begrudge the actress a return, as she was really nailing the role.
The other quibble would be that we saw Howard the Duck again, and not Cosmo (save in the credits headshots). I like the telepathic Russian dog-mo-naut way more than the sarcastic duck. :)
I'm going to agree with MMCJawa. I think the movie worked well as is. Mantis and Drax's scenes were good, but didn't carry the weight (like you said). They do a good job of actually introducing us to some of the depth of Drax's character, without introducing a completely new plot line. I think it does a good job of setting up elements of his past resurfacing in Vol 3 though.
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Curb stomping is Thanos' class skill.
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Curb stomping is Thanos' class skill.
Well, that and really bad parenting. Two out of two of his 'daughters' (that we've seen so far) want him dead.
Gosh, I hope Infinity War has more of Thanos' 'daughters' going up against the Avengers (and whomever else shows up). I'd love to see a half-dozen or more butt-kicking ladies throwing down with Cap, Hawkeye, Black Widow, etc. (Granted, Thor, the Hulk and Iron Man might kind of outclass them, if they are generally around Gamora and Nebula's power levels...)
Yeah If I remember my comics There is more daughters that hate him as well.
I like the movie BTW. One weird thing for me was Ego kept acting as if he was kurt russel instead of kurt russel just being another tentacle or what have you. It makes it easier for the audience So you can see who is fighting who then everyone just hacking at energy tentacles, but its not like ego needs that body for anything.
I'm kind of hoping that the Infinity Wars will feature at some spot a team up with Captain Marvel, Gamora, and Black Widow myself.
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Well, that and really bad parenting. Two out of two of his 'daughters' (that we've seen so far) want him dead.
That might be his goal with parenting? he wants his daughters to do the same thing he did?
Skodi,
You mean be a big fat jerk and kill the universe?
As for the fight between the Avengers and the Daughters of Thanos...eh. I think Iron Man is beatable for them. Thor and Hulk might be fighting outside their weight class though.
And yes there is ONE more child of Thanos...but we don't talk about him much.
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Skodi,
You mean be a big fat jerk and kill the universe?
As for the fight between the Avengers and the Daughters of Thanos...eh. I think Iron Man is beatable for them. Thor and Hulk might be fighting outside their weight class though.
And yes there is ONE more child of Thanos...but we don't talk about him much.
Thane?
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As for the fight between the Avengers and the Daughters of Thanos...eh. I think Iron Man is beatable for them. Thor and Hulk might be fighting outside their weight class though.
Good point. We saw in Civil War that enhanced folk like the MCU versions of Captain America (who is significantly stronger than comic book Cap) and Winter Soldier could give Iron Man a run for his money. Gamora and Nebula, with their enhancements, seem to be operating at least at that level.
Seeing Gamora lifting and firing a *ship-mounted weapon* in this movie certainly gives me new respect for whatever 'enhancements' she's got going on!
And yes there is ONE more child of Thanos... but we don't talk about him much.
Eh, I just want to see more women on-screen, kicking ass. The Chitauri and Ultrons seemed kind of generically male, or male-ish (as much as robots can have a gender), so it could be neat to see the Avengers mixing it up with a strike force of enhanced ladies. (And perhaps some snark from Black Widow or Scarlet Witch accusing one or more of the menfolk holding back 'because they're girls?').
I still laugh when I remember the scene in Deadpool where he's fighting the two female enforcers. "Is it sexist to hit you? Is it sexist to *not* hit you? I'm so confused right now..."
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Saw it. Liked it, but not as much as first one.
Biscuit,
I'm not sure it's that so much as it explains why he can use the Power Stone without going BOOM!
Being the son of a the King of Spartax wouldn't do that. Son of Ego? Yeah that makes more sense.
Vid,
Yes him.
Set,
Honestly I always though Comic Cap could fight Iron Man...just not be bullet proof. Which is something Stark kind of is in the suit.
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I'm not sure it's that so much as it explains why he can use the Power Stone without going BOOM!This also cheapens the first movie, as we were led to believe he didn't go BOOM because him and all of his friends were holding hands together...
Actaully this was given a nod in the first movie itself, when afterwards when they're getting checked out and it's remarked that he's not fully Terran.
But given what went down it is definitely explicit that because they all held hands together is why they didn't all go boom.
Rysky,
I thought it was because of his heritage but yeah more of them help deal with the non-boom part.
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Manny,
MCU Drax isn't nearly as tough as Comic Book Drax...
Every one of those tree impacts with the crash would have pulped a human. Drax thought it was hilariously fun.
Also love the nonchalant superhuman strength of Gamorra picking up the insane cannon.
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I'm not sure it's that so much as it explains why he can use the Power Stone without going BOOM!This also cheapens the first movie, as we were led to believe he didn't go BOOM because him and all of his friends were holding hands together...Actaully this was given a nod in the first movie itself, when afterwards when they're getting checked out and it's remarked that he's not fully Terran.
But given what went down it is definitely explicit that because they all held hands together is why they didn't all go boom.
Yeah I always saw the fact that he wasn't fully terran as the reason he survived as long as he did in space saving Gamorra. His body can withstand a hell of a lot more than a pure human's would.
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Every one of those tree impacts with the crash would have pulped a human. Drax thought it was hilariously fun.
Also love the nonchalant superhuman strength of Gamorra picking up the insane cannon.
Yeah, I liked both of those bits, because it established that Drax and Gamora are something more than badasses with guns, swords, knives, etc. but have some actual superhuman-level talents going on (and therefore have a snowball's chance in hell of being more than just a speedbump against someone like Thanos).
Even Rocket has an amazing super-power, in that he has a teensy little backpack, smaller than a clutch purse, and barely visible most of the time, that somehow holds a bunch of guns and bombs and trap-making materials that weigh more than he does. :)
Every one of those tree impacts with the crash would have pulped a human. Drax thought it was hilariously fun.
Also love the nonchalant superhuman strength of Gamorra picking up the insane cannon.
Yeah, I liked both of those bits, because it established that Drax and Gamora are something more than badasses with guns, swords, knives, etc. but have some actual superhuman-level talents going on (and therefore have a snowball's chance in hell of being more than just a speedbump against someone like Thanos).
Even Rocket has an amazing super-power, in that he has a teensy little backpack, smaller than a clutch purse, and barely visible most of the time, that somehow holds a bunch of guns and bombs and trap-making materials that weigh more than he does. :)
You mean i'm a super-power?
Every one of those tree impacts with the crash would have pulped a human. Drax thought it was hilariously fun.
Also love the nonchalant superhuman strength of Gamorra picking up the insane cannon.
Yeah, I liked both of those bits, because it established that Drax and Gamora are something more than badasses with guns, swords, knives, etc. but have some actual superhuman-level talents going on (and therefore have a snowball's chance in hell of being more than just a speedbump against someone like Thanos).
Even Rocket has an amazing super-power, in that he has a teensy little backpack, smaller than a clutch purse, and barely visible most of the time, that somehow holds a bunch of guns and bombs and trap-making materials that weigh more than he does. :)
Yeah definitely some quantum space manipulation going on there. That and he seems to be able to pick up literally anything and know how to make it work.
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Every one of those tree impacts with the crash would have pulped a human. Drax thought it was hilariously fun.
Also love the nonchalant superhuman strength of Gamorra picking up the insane cannon.
Yeah, I liked both of those bits, because it established that Drax and Gamora are something more than badasses with guns, swords, knives, etc. but have some actual superhuman-level talents going on (and therefore have a snowball's chance in hell of being more than just a speedbump against someone like Thanos).
Even Rocket has an amazing super-power, in that he has a teensy little backpack, smaller than a clutch purse, and barely visible most of the time, that somehow holds a bunch of guns and bombs and trap-making materials that weigh more than he does. :)
I wish they incorporated Drax connection to Thanos in his backstory. In the comics he gets exponentially stronger with proximity to Thanos, since he pretty much exists to kill him.
Either way the idea of watching Drax and Thor or Hulk double teaming Thanos is pretty exciting.
Well, based on Drax's ability to take punishment, a scene of him trying to calm down Hulk could be very amusing as well. Or perhaps not understanding that Hulk is trying to kill him and thinking he just wants to wrestle.
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Irontruth,
Him and the Hulk wrestling would be awesome. Especially with Dave's background. ;)
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Every one of those tree impacts with the crash would have pulped a human. Drax thought it was hilariously fun.
Also love the nonchalant superhuman strength of Gamorra picking up the insane cannon.
Yeah, I liked both of those bits, because it established that Drax and Gamora are something more than badasses with guns, swords, knives, etc. but have some actual superhuman-level talents going on (and therefore have a snowball's chance in hell of being more than just a speedbump against someone like Thanos).
Even Rocket has an amazing super-power, in that he has a teensy little backpack, smaller than a clutch purse, and barely visible most of the time, that somehow holds a bunch of guns and bombs and trap-making materials that weigh more than he does. :)
That and just general ass kicking ability
"Not so tough without your toys"
Callous,
Thanos is smart. He knows he needs semi-disposable minions just in case.
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The fact that he's attempting to do pretty much the same thing that The Soveriegn are attempting to do at the end with the 'next step' also is a bit of an interesting thing.
Also, if Ego hit *all the planets*, that would seem to indicate that he also hit places like *Asgard* and *Helheim* and whatnot. Perhaps a lead-in to Ragnarok there?
Ego commentary aside, it was neat to see Stan get *two* scenes, a regular and a cut, and the fact that the Watchers were *shown* means that they are now a 'seen' quantity (or they're Time Twisters, either way, it's a little nod there that hadn't been seen previously).
Not sure if would see again, but there's so many different threads floating around out there now, the least bit being that all that 'Ego goop' is now out there in the MCU, and it was 'extension of Celestial beings'... so things could get a mite bit more... interesting. If you thought things like Extremis were bad...
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** spoiler omitted **
Yeah, there's a good plot seed for the future laid down there, that *doesn't* necessarily involve Thanos and / or the Infinity McGuffins. I doubt Asgard would be one of the hundreds or thousands of worlds affected, but Earth, Xander, the Kree homeworld, etc. are good enough for some future movie potential, if they want to go that way.
Rocket "It's funny that your dad died from something put in his brain by a family member, the same as your mom."
Quill "No it's not! Why would you even say that?"
Quill: "What? I don't... Just stop."
"You should a big 'S' on your shirt, you know... for Starlord."
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All I know is now that we have Watchers, we TOTALLY need someone to play Uatu...
Who, Stan Lee?
Okay well. I don't object but I was under the impression he wasn't a real Watcher...
I think the key word there is Informant, Rysky...
Mm. Fair. I just am not convinced YET this who they're going with for Uatu.
But we'll see. I mean it's not like they've gotten to USE the Watchers other than once.
